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Kiss Destroyer ambience
Old 24th April 2012
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Kiss Destroyer ambience

Hi Jay,

Thanks for answering my question about Aerosmith.
I am also curious about the Kiss Destoyer LP.

The record is layered in the most lush rich ambiance/reverb
I have ever heard on a record. Given the fact it was
1975/76 and digital verb was not available, how did you guys obtain
such a depth? was it all ambient micing? or were there some
chambers, plates or springs utilized? possibly some delay techniques?

I really think the sound of Destroyer is as good as it gets sonically
and its spacial component is pure genius.

Thank you
Headstack........
Old 25th April 2012
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Hi Jay,

Thanks for answering my question about Aerosmith.
I am also curious about the Kiss Destoyer LP.

The record is layered in the most lush rich ambiance/reverb
I have ever heard on a record. Given the fact it was
1975/76 and digital verb was not available, how did you guys obtain
such a depth? was it all ambient micing? or were there some
chambers, plates or springs utilized? possibly some delay techniques?

I really think the sound of Destroyer is as good as it gets sonically
and its spacial component is pure genius.

Thank you
Headstack........
We sometimes set the drums up near the back of the studio, and left the door open. There was a concrete hallway back there, which we placed at least one U-87. That made for some really cool ambience. Record Plant also had some nice plates, all with there own distinctive qualities. Printing some guitar effects, mixed on to the same track, can also add some unique dimension.
Old 25th April 2012
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Thanks again for doing this... quick follow-up (although not my original question) you've mentioned the Record Plant plates a couple of times and that you usually find what you're looking for plugin-wise with UAD... so, if you don't mind me asking, how do you like the EMT140 emulation as compared to "the real thing?" any tips or tricks to get them closer to the hardware or are you happy with how they are?
Old 25th April 2012
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Thanks again for doing this... quick follow-up (although not my original question) you've mentioned the Record Plant plates a couple of times and that you usually find what you're looking for plugin-wise with UAD... so, if you don't mind me asking, how do you like the EMT140 emulation as compared to "the real thing?" any tips or tricks to get them closer to the hardware or are you happy with how they are?
The UAD EMT-140 plugin does a good job. It's one of my first choices, along with the UAD EMT-250 for some sweet, natural sounding reverb. I can't say I've had the opportunity to A/B it to an actual plate, but I have an engineer friend who did the A/B, and said it was very close. I have put some EQ on the output of the plate to color the verb in different ways.
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