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Retro Instruments OP-6 - Portable Microphone Amplifier Single-Channel Preamps
Old 5th August 2014
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nice
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holy cow!
Old 5th August 2014
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Can you please stop posting porn on this nice clean site.
Old 5th August 2014
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Can you please stop posting porn on this nice clean site.
sorry,
I have a tube amp fetish
Old 5th August 2014
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So which holy record was done with the original back then?
Old 5th August 2014
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So which holy record was done with the original back then?
Actually, to my knowledge, the RCA OP-6, designed in 1941, was a portable mic preamp for on location broadcast use, not music recording studio use. I doubt there are any songs from that era recorded with them. It just so happens that they also work great for music when a really huge tube sound is called for. I hope Retro captured the magic! I might have to add one of these to complement my originals. Sure looks pretty!
Old 5th August 2014
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Based on the cost it looks like he went all in... I'm sure it will be great. Vintage ones were already fetching over 3K... now watch them jump to 5K...
Old 5th August 2014
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I would really like to see the transformers as that IMO is where the magic came from in a lot of old gear. I would think something like Jensens in there would be missing the point. Hopefully they went as faithful to the original as possible.
Old 16th August 2014
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Op6 listed on vintage king site

The op6 is now listed for sale. Have any of you guys on the US had a chance to try it out?
Old 16th August 2014
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3.5K? come on..
Old 16th August 2014
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I knew it would be very pricey - it would have to be - there must have been a ton of reverse engineering and custom built components required to bring this beast back to life. Man, I am so tempted to demo one and do a shootout against the original...
Old 16th August 2014
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3.5 is just putting a silly pricetag on it and wait what happens

Not me this time
Old 16th August 2014
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If it sounds like what I'm hoping I will sound like... I'll buy one!!! Asap.
Old 16th August 2014
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Or you could buy SIX used UA Solo 610s, lol. I love playing these price games.
Old 16th August 2014
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Or you could buy SIX used UA Solo 610s, lol. I love playing these price games.
While that is true, IMHO, I think the 610 are harsh. I also think they are dreadful on vocals. I just mixed a song where the vocals had a distorted bite to them (the singer is amazing btw). I asked the engineer about the session and he told me that they used the 610. That explained the upper bite I was hearing.

I already had my opinion of them before this incident btw.
Old 16th August 2014
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I just mixed a song where the vocals had a distorted bite to them (the singer is amazing btw). I asked the engineer about the session and he told me that they used the 610. That explained the upper bite I was hearing.

I already had my opinion of them before this incident btw.
Sounds like operator error to me. I've got great results on vox with a 610.
Old 16th August 2014
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You could be right. Like any gear, there is a sweet spot. I suspect with the 610's it can go sour fast. Also, I find lots of young engineers are obsessed with distorting every peice of gear they own!!
Old 17th August 2014
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You could be right. Like any gear, there is a sweet spot. I suspect with the 610's it can go sour fast. Also, I find lots of young engineers are obsessed with distorting every peice of gear they own!!
Over-romanticizing distortion is a consequence of the digital age. It's a drag.

- c
Old 19th August 2014
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gee, looks great
but dont got 4G so I build it own.
http://ameblo.jp/shokomiya/image-119...036363366.html
Old 21st August 2014
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I am very pleased that a whole new generation will get to use these fab things now, it's far from a one trick pony!
I got my old one rebuilt with the help of Steven Sank and Brian Sowter for the rebuilt and upgraded to dual voltage mains transformer. There is plenty of room in there for various other input transformer options, which is I understand exactly what Retro have done. I can see why the Retro OP-6 is that much money, as it's made out of what these days is a whole bunch of unobtainium. For instance the output transformer is about the size of a regular can of beans and interacts with a spare set of contacts in the Daven gain attenuator to provide gain variable negative feedback which is only otherwise seen in the very sought after early Langevin pre amps.
Even though I also proudly own a fabulous ex military STC pre amp full of western electric transformers and cool british made switches and it even has a bronze epicyclic reduction gearbox on the huge Connor wire wound gain potentiometer.
Got to hand it to RCA though for that last one percent of tone it's the 1620/6j7 pentode tubes, just like the old Fairchild it sounds so Phat!.:-)
Old 21st August 2014
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I'm shure this design is a labour of love,
full with rare and expensive parts,
handmade in extremly small numbers etc...

but which engineer on this earth -
concerning the state of the recording industry
spends over 4k on ONE preamp channel...?

Personally I think this is stupid and obscene -
no matter how rich you are
and makes me even more curious
how things go on the slate vms front.
When he can model a 1073
what stops him modelling this...?
Old 21st August 2014
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and makes me even more curious
how things go on the slate vms front.
When he can model a 1073
what stops him modelling this...?
Accuracy.

Plus...shhhh...don't mention his name please. If you mention his name three times, he appears, hi-jacks the thread, and turns it into a 50 page advertisement for his products.

It's not just urban legend...
Old 21st August 2014
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Plus...shhhh...don't mention his name please. If you mention his name three times, he appears, hi-jacks the thread, and turns it into a 50 page advertisement for his products.

It's not just urban legend...

Hahaha...true.
I often disagree with him
but in a case like this a 21st century contribution would be welcome.

BTW. his ssl buss compressor was accurate enough to me
to sell the hardware. I'm still sceptical about vms though...
but who knows...
Old 21st August 2014
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but which engineer on this earth -
concerning the state of the recording industry
spends over 4k on ONE preamp channel...?
The same ones who spend 30k on a Fairchild 670 or 6k on a U67 I suppose. You know - GEARSLUTZ!
Old 21st August 2014
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I'm shure this design is a labour of love,
full with rare and expensive parts,
handmade in extremly small numbers etc...

but which engineer on this earth -
concerning the state of the recording industry
spends over 4k on ONE preamp channel...?

Personally I think this is stupid and obscene -
no matter how rich you are
and makes me even more curious
how things go on the slate vms front.
When he can model a 1073
what stops him modelling this...?
Umm! Cos we are gearslutz isn't it?.:-) we are the twits that don't think it actually sounds quite the same, if the familiar looking bit of kit just disappears when you press quit.
This is my mate Cenzos Extra Stupid and Obscene Mix room at Decoy Studios Suffolk UK I personally love it.

I will avoid showing you his lifetime collection of rack gear cos it's total porno.:-)
Old 22nd August 2014
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Aside from raw skill and musicality going into it, this special gear is really about 'that elusive magic'. The subtleties of the last few percentage points is of highest value to guys who buy and use this kind of gear. Subtlety has become worthless in modern times which is tragic. Gear like this enables great performances without effort. Plug in a great mic in front of a great singer and just turn up the gain. Done. Sorry, but Slate still doesn't have that magic and I don't know if any digital emulations ever will.

Way back in the wee early '90s I had the pleasure of singing through an old RCA ribbon mic through an OP-6, EMT 140, and straight to 2" tape. It was probably the first moment in my life that made me want to make records. And this was just standard stuff at that studio, workhorse bread and butter gear used everyday. I still have that 'blown away magical feeling' in me thinking back to those days and using that kind of gear. I felt SO GOOD being a musician doing my thing. It was one of those moments where it really was equal parts gear magic and vibe.
Old 22nd August 2014
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Aside from raw skill and musicality going into it, this special gear is really about 'that elusive magic'. The subtleties of the last few percentage points is of highest value to guys who buy and use this kind of gear. Subtlety has become worthless in modern times which is tragic. Gear like this enables great performances without effort. Plug in a great mic in front of a great singer and just turn up the gain. Done. Sorry, but Slate still doesn't have that magic and I don't know if any digital emulations ever will.

Way back in the wee early '90s I had the pleasure of singing through an old RCA ribbon mic through an OP-6, EMT 140, and straight to 2" tape. It was probably the first moment in my life that made me want to make records. And this was just standard stuff at that studio, workhorse bread and butter gear used everyday. I still have that 'blown away magical feeling' in me thinking back to those days and using that kind of gear. I felt SO GOOD being a musician doing my thing. It was one of those moments where it really was equal parts gear magic and vibe.
Your description gives me almost goose bumps.....
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