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Steven Slate debuts The RAVEN X1 Production Console
Old 26th January 2012
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I think someone has a crush...
A Bromance

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Old 26th January 2012
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LOL

Accusations of industrial espionage - arguments - a love interest.

What next, a drugs scandal?

tht
Old 26th January 2012
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What would also work for me is if they provide a module, like a desktop mixer,
so one could incorportate it in any custom-mode console.

The integrated analog functionality and routing capabilities is what makes it interesting.

Regards,
Dirk
try SmartAVtango with a Tango sterling modular desk + summingbox.

hei ho..
Old 26th January 2012
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LOL

Accusations of industrial espionage - arguments - a love interest.

What next, a drugs scandal?

tht
AHA, GS!! More interesting than real life.
Old 26th January 2012
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Thanks.

I saw the picture first here, and then walked by the Slate booth. I didn't talk to anyone there. I'm sorry it wasn't that obvious to you.

To be fair, people's perception of the product is likely based on what they wanted to see or expected. I saw the picture, recognized that it's an Argosy desk and Euphonix controllers with a couple stacks of Slate comps and pres on the sides, so the remaining centrepiece must be the new Slate product in situ.

If you didn't recognize the Argosy or Euphonix components, then I do understand how one might think the whole ensemble was the product. I was talking with some of the pro audio guys at the local dealer this morning and mentioned I'd seen the Raven at NAMM and they had had the same idea of many here, that the whole ensemble was the Raven. Though, they did lead off with, "To us it just looked liked a tricked out Argosy with Euph. controllers, so we couldn't figure out what Slate was doing."
I recognized the components, it was his comments about being a third party re-seller for avid and argosy that sparked my confusion (aka everything came with it and they were just a third party reseller)
Old 26th January 2012
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I recognized the components, it was his comments about being a third party re-seller for avid and argosy that sparked my confusion (aka everything came with it and they were just a third party reseller)
Ah, see, that's what I thought made things clear.

Makes sense that they'd be resellers. If you wanted to purchase a big desk setup, they could put together a working and tested package. Less uncertainty, lead time to commission, made to order. This isn't so unlike the days when you'd order a build-in console and configure your fader packs, your patchbays, automation and monitoring section, bridge and trim. The supplying manufacturer only really built the mixer parts and assembled it for you.

Anyway, you didn't have to get specifically derisive.
Old 26th January 2012
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Hello fellas! We have nearly completely the redesign of the Raven X1, and it incorporates so many user requests including:

having the faders, mouse, keyboard, display, talkback, main volume, speaker selection, source selection all in the "hot zone"

having dual monitors, even dual 27"s

having custom configurations for composers with midi keyboard controllers

and some more stuff that you'll find out soon. I just wish I could snap my fingers and get my Neotek out of here so I can start using this thing!!!

As for my voice, I was unaware it was a hot topic, but I'll talk to Fabrice about a plugin that models it if there is enough demand.

Cheers,
Steven
Old 26th January 2012
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Very well knowing that what I am about to post offers nothing constructive to this thread, and that it maybe offend one or two of you.......

I stood near "Steven Slate" (I think its his given name) at the NAMM show and listened to him speak.

I was SHOCKED to learn that, the voice in the videos on the slate digital website are all 100% authentic Steven Slate.... I was stunned!!!!


I thought the voices on those videos were pitched, robo-fied, sub-harmonized... But No! This man has the deep, thick, gritty voice of a male Adonis.....
Ha...if you thought hearing him speak was cool, check out the last minute or so of this video!




-e.B
Old 26th January 2012
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Steve, can you create a sliding shelf that would hold an 88-not keyboard controller underneath? That and dual 27" monitors would a be dream setup.
Old 27th January 2012
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Wow, he's like the perfect commercial rock singer.
Old 27th January 2012
  #221
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you should've put a fader section into the middle of the console so you're not always forced to move out of the sweet spot for balancing...

apart from that: k to the iller
Old 27th January 2012
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you should've put a fader section into the middle of the console so you're not always forced to move out of the sweet spot for balancing...

apart from that: k to the iller
You might want to read his last post
Old 27th January 2012
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you should've put a fader section into the middle of the console so you're not always forced to move out of the sweet spot for balancing...

apart from that: k to the iller
Totally agree, its been implemented. The new design is really fantastic, and there are quite a bit of other new ideas in the works. I can't wait to run a session with this console. It's gonna be slick!

Cheers,
Steven
Old 27th January 2012
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Totally agree, its been implemented. The new design is really fantastic, and there are quite a bit of other new ideas in the works. I can't wait to run a session with this console. It's gonna be slick!

Cheers,
Steven
I dig the ideas. I can firmly say it wont be in my budget in 2012, but it would solve a lot of my work flow issues too, and just look awesome too :P
Which is important. Depending how this year goes I'd be thinking about it seriously in 2013.

My two big issues in the studio at the moment are: Reliable interface. Reliable effective monitoring. I'm sick of "making do" and finding workarounds.

However how would you accommodate people that have their screen low and at an angle? I hate looking up to where the phantom image seems to be "coming from" and seeing a DAW with pretty colours and lights!

Since I put my screen down low I don't have to keep turning it off to really listen to a mix properly. It's pretty crucial for me now.
Old 27th January 2012
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Ha...if you thought hearing him speak was cool, check out the last minute or so of this video!




-e.B
Ha ha! - Steven Buble (without the Autotune!).
Old 27th January 2012
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I just wish I could snap my fingers and get my Neotek out of here so I can start using this thing!!!


Cheers,
Steven
Don't forget to model it for VCC first, before getting rid of it.

Secondly, how much you selling it for (your Neotek)????
Old 27th January 2012
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Steve, can you create a sliding shelf that would hold an 88-not keyboard controller underneath? That and dual 27" monitors would a be dream setup.
If he does...will you promise to read a little closer? From a couple posts above yours...AND from the very source...

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Originally Posted by Steven Slate View Post
We have nearly completely the redesign of the Raven X1, and it incorporates so many user requests including:

having the faders, mouse, keyboard, display, talkback, main volume, speaker selection, source selection all in the "hot zone"

having dual monitors, even dual 27"s


having custom configurations for composers with midi keyboard controllers...

Cheers,
Steven


I kid mofo...had a long day where people just weren't paying attention to detail, and it cost me time, effort and unnecessary frustration. Chillin' with a beer, and now this! heh

Old 28th January 2012
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If something could be added to the surface material of the desk that would reduce comb filtering drastically, I would buy this for my tracking room in a heartbeat
Old 28th January 2012
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Might as well go ahead and stick an ATM machine in it
Old 28th January 2012
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Who the fak is Whitecat...and why did he delete my...chastising of a moron...post?

Oh...I see now. Thanks "community" guy/girl/person. Your response time is incredible!
Old 29th January 2012
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AW: Steven Slate debuts The RAVEN X1 Production Console

I want your neotek. How much? Elan? Elite?

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Old 29th January 2012
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If he does...will you promise to read a little closer? From a couple posts above yours...AND from the very source...





I kid mofo...had a long day where people just weren't paying attention to detail, and it cost me time, effort and unnecessary frustration. Chillin' with a beer, and now this! heh

DOH!!!! I have to start reading the entire thread before posting. Good news, though, on those options.
Old 29th January 2012
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The mention of 'console' in the thread title is misleading. It took me a couple of days to finally figure out that this is not a new console design, but a controller with monitoring. It is a DAW controlling desk, but not a console, per say.

That should have been spelled out up front.
Old 29th January 2012
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The mention of 'console' in the thread title is misleading. It took me a couple of days to finally figure out that this is not a new console design, but a controller with monitoring. It is a DAW controlling desk, but not a console, per say.

That should have been spelled out up front.
Steven Slate claims his plugins perfectly emulate a console. With the argosy dedk + faderpack he claims that you (and I) don't need a console anymore. We can buy his stuff and feel totally happy till the end of our days.

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Old 29th January 2012
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Aaaahh..
Don't be so grumpy

About the "console".
Not having hardware control for plugins is just plain unforgivable.
Ipad/touch control for plugins is idiotic and my guess is that we will look back at it as the eighties for daw controlling.
As I see it it contradicts the whole concept of needing external plugin control..
Old 29th January 2012
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The mention of 'console' in the thread title is misleading. It took me a couple of days to finally figure out that this is not a new console design, but a controller with monitoring. It is a DAW controlling desk, but not a console, per say.

That should have been spelled out up front.
Understandable, and I agree. But to be fair, it's probably about time the narrow definition we use for 'console' gets up to speed with the rest of the world. It is properly a console in that it is a control space for mechanics and electronic function. 'Console' is broad enough to include organ manuals/keybeds, pedal steels, as it is audio consoles, car dashboards and spaceship control panels. I'm not suggesting that Slate was trying to set the record straight with the title, but it's probably a case, strictly speaking, of being accidentally correct.
Old 29th January 2012
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Aaaahh..
Don't be so grumpy

About the "console".
Not having hardware control for plugins is just plain unforgivable.
Ipad/touch control for plugins is idiotic and my guess is that we will look back at it as the eighties for daw controlling.
As I see it it contradicts the whole concept of needing external plugin control..
+1

The only controller for me personally to get in the right ball park has been the Novation Noctrun.

This new breed of iPad app with VNC that simply puts your desktop on your iPad seems regressive to me, great, I can now try to turn a knob on my UAD 1073 with my chunky index finger. Real accurate.

My Kingston Trackball Mouse does a better job with it's large scroll wheel being active for whatever the mouse is pointing at, at least that's something circular!

I'm hopeful we'll get better hardware controllers in the future. I have often wished UAD would do their own controller to cover the majority of their plugins using at least some kind of std.

tht
Old 30th January 2012
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+1

The only controller for me personally to get in the right ball park has been the Novation Noctrun.

This new breed of iPad app with VNC that simply puts your desktop on your iPad seems regressive to me, great, I can now try to turn a knob on my UAD 1073 with my chunky index finger. Real accurate.

My Kingston Trackball Mouse does a better job with it's large scroll wheel being active for whatever the mouse is pointing at, at least that's something circular!

I'm hopeful we'll get better hardware controllers in the future. I have often wished UAD would do their own controller to cover the majority of their plugins using at least some kind of std.

tht
The iPad as a plug-in control surface has great potential, but not when constrained by VNC or virtual window type operation. I recently got V control pro to check out this feature and I don't think I'll ever really be using it. The interface is slow, which requires you to frequently look up at the monitor to see if your changes are being registered. Plus, since the host OS is not multi-touch capable you're limited to working one parameter at a time. At this time I'd rather use a traditional control surface or a mouse.

That said, I hope that the industry pushes towards a new standard for plug in control. It would be really cool to have plug in interface instances show up on the iPad and allow multi-touch input, and have responsive GUIs with solid meter dynamics. It would be awesome if remote interfaces were part of say the VST 4.0 spec.

Cheers

Kris
Old 30th January 2012
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My first impression echoes that of a few others here. It seems excessively big for the amount of gear / features it's holding. Perhaps that's to subliminally place it in the "big console" market (maybe trying to make a case for a big price tag?) I feel like it's overly boxy looking as well. It could be sleeker. not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but Argisy already has a "Raven" console. I'm sure Slate can come up with some better name.
Old 30th January 2012
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Holy Console, Batman!

Add several more faders, several more meters, several more compressors, several buss/group/aux features, several eqs and keep the size & space and U'll have yourself an.... ahem... good ole' analogue console.


heh

Eh eh eh...

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