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Old 7th March 2012
  #1711
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Originally Posted by IAMCRISIS View Post
Why would a top executive for Intel talk at all let a lone for a few minutes at the Universal Audio booth for the Apollo about Thunderbolt? And did you not read the quote directly from Universal Audio which said "To be 100% clear, Apollo's Thunderbolt I/O card was co-developed with Intel, and is absolutely providing "true" Thunderbolt.".
Go back and read my posts again you hyperventilating twit , I never mentioned anything about doubting that the UA controller was anything but a true TB interconnect, in fact I clearly stated they wouldn't be that stupid to provide otherwise, so point your infantile froth elsewhere.

Also anyone developing for TB has to directly liaise with Intel's development team as Intel are providing the chip , that doesn't guarantee squat in regards to performance for Pro Audio.

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I'll give you something to cry more about in 2 weeks when I get my Apollo


So you going to have that TB card slotted in and ready to roll ?

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Here's something to listen to until then...
You have got to be kidding me !

Stick with the zombies... LOL

Old 7th March 2012
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Thomann got some in stock!!!
Old 7th March 2012
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Hey, I think the speculation machine needs a nap. Whether on either side of the boundaries for or against, ua, other folks on this forum, or what else you are seeing as an enemy it's probably best to take a nap and talk about this when fully rested. Perhaps then we will make better judgments and stop playing ego size games.

Because this probably won't happen those of us who agree and want to engage a dialogue that helps us, we will need to start a new forum when we get ours hands and ears to work with the apollo so we can make honest criticisms and praise when it's deserved.
Also I posted on ua's Facebook saying that there has been a lot of talk about the converters in the Apollo describing it as having the same converters as other products of theirs and asking them to let us know if thats true and if so which one, and if not how they are similar and different. The question was shortly thereafter deleted. :(
Old 7th March 2012
  #1714
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Thomann got some in stock!!!
... No they haven't.

My preorder is with Thomann, in fact they've changed their date of stock due from tomorrow to the 19th!
Old 7th March 2012
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If I get an Apollo, will I be able to combine the processing power of my Solo/Laptop card with it?

J
Old 7th March 2012
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Yes.
Old 7th March 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Morgan View Post
If I get an Apollo, will I be able to combine the processing power of my Solo/Laptop card with it?

J
Yes!
Old 7th March 2012
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I find it very sad for all the previous contributors who actually brought something to this thread because their posts containing most answers to all those simple technical inquiries are buried under 30 pages of redundant crap.
Old 7th March 2012
  #1719
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Brilliant, thanks v much for the answer - sorry it's obviously been asked before! Just couldn't handle the 57 pages...

J
Old 7th March 2012
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Originally Posted by Jack Morgan View Post
Brilliant, thanks v much for the answer - sorry it's obviously been asked before! Just couldn't handle the 57 pages...

J
no offense.. but thats what i call LAME

cheers ( one who has read all 1700+ topics and stood even the 30%+ which were hard to stand )
Old 7th March 2012
  #1721
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MF lists the Quad in stock for May 21. (Duo is still March 24)

I never checked the Quad before so am not sure if that has changed.
Old 7th March 2012
  #1722
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I'd love to see a smaller version (Duo perhaps) for a more mobile market. I just got a 13" MBP, and am bummed that so far the Apollo is the only TB interface that we know is coming.

After reading recent posts from BLA's Facebook page, it seems THEY are the first to be developing a "true" TB port interface. Reports say that everyone else in development is somehow working a FW/USB work around to make it happen.

So far the RME UCX looks like the perfect mobile interface with a couple of things that I would have rather changed. (completely personal taste versus market need/want)

Those being that I wished it had USB and FW800 instead of FW400. Having discrete outputs for outputs 7-8 rather than a combined HP out. Dual headphone outs. Replace the RME DSP/mixer with UAD-2 Apollo DSP/mixer, and the addition of Timecode I/O would be the cherry on top.

I happen to work in a lot of different capacities (mobile band tracking/mixing, location film audio, live sound, and corporate A/V). So, I understand that a product combining the features of the Apollo and UCX is a stretch. Especially since, timecode is only an option for RME's Fireface800. It would be sweet.

Given the option to make use of the iPad(s) with controller software, recording software, and RTA apps. The future is looking bright.

Just dreaming!
Old 7th March 2012
  #1723
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I'd love to see a smaller version (Duo perhaps) for a more mobile market. I just got a 13" MBP, and am bummed that so far the Apollo is the only TB interface that we know is coming.

After reading recent posts from BLA's Facebook page, it seems THEY are the first to be developing a "true" TB port interface. Reports say that everyone else in development is somehow working a FW/USB work around to make it happen.

So far the RME UCX looks like the perfect mobile interface with a couple of things that I would have rather changed. (completely personal taste versus market need/want)

Those being that I wished it had USB and FW800 instead of FW400. Having discrete outputs for outputs 7-8 rather than a combined HP out. Dual headphone outs. Replace the RME DSP/mixer with UAD-2 Apollo DSP/mixer, and the addition of Timecode I/O would be the cherry on top.

I happen to work in a lot of different capacities (mobile band tracking/mixing, location film audio, live sound, and corporate A/V). So, I understand that a product combining the features of the Apollo and UCX is a stretch. Especially since, timecode is only an option for RME's Fireface800. It would be sweet.

Given the option to make use of the iPad(s) with controller software, recording software, and RTA apps. The future is looking bright.

Just dreaming!
The BLA marketing spiel has been proved an absolute outright lie. Read back a few..
Old 7th March 2012
  #1724
Sorry if this was covered, I have only read 20 pages of this thread. If you use the Apollo on multiple computers, do the plugs follow the Apollo? Like my main computer and then on the laptop?
Old 7th March 2012
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Sorry if this was covered, I have only read 20 pages of this thread. If you use the Apollo on multiple computers, do the plugs follow the Apollo? Like my main computer and then on the laptop?
Yes and that goes for any UAD-2 device. All UAD plug-in authorizations are tied directly to the UAD-2 devices that you have registered in your UA account (up to 4 per hardware group) and not to any particular computer component or third party CP scheme.

Cheers,

Billy Buck
Old 7th March 2012
  #1726
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Sorry if this was covered, I have only read 20 pages of this thread. If you use the Apollo on multiple computers, do the plugs follow the Apollo? Like my main computer and then on the laptop?
From the FAQ on UA's Apollo webpage:
"One license of UAD-2 Powered plug-ins can run on up to 4 devices, but they all must be registered in the same account “group.” By adding Apollo to your group, you can take your plug-ins wherever you take Apollo, such as recording and mixing sessions in other studios."

I guess since the question was just answered, my reply belongs to the Department of Redundancy Dept.

Last edited by Nathanz; 7th March 2012 at 09:52 PM.. Reason: redundant
Old 7th March 2012
  #1727
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what is the dynamic range on the converter specs?
Old 7th March 2012
  #1728
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what is the dynamic range on the converter specs?
Apollo Specifications
All specifications are typical performance unless otherwise noted, tested under the following conditions: 48 kHz
internal sample rate, 24-bit sample depth, 20 kHz measurement bandwidth, with balanced output.
SYSTEM
I/O Complement
Microphone Inputs 4
High-Impedance Inputs 2
Analog Line Inputs 8
Analog Line Outputs 8
Analog Monitor Outputs 2 (1 stereo pair)
Headphone Outputs 2 stereo (independent mix buses)
ADAT Up to 8 channels via dual I/O ports with S/MUX
S/PDIF 1 stereo input, 1 stereo output
FireWire 800 (IEEE 1394b) Dual ports
Thunderbolt (via Option Card) Dual ports
Word Clock 1 input, 1 output
A/D – D/A Conversion
Supported Sample Rates (kHz) 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192
A/D Bits Per Sample 24
Simultaneous A/D conversion 8 channels
Simultaneous D/A conversion 14 channels
Analog Round-Trip Latency 1.1 milliseconds @ 96 kHz sample rate
Analog Round-Trip Latency with four serial
UAD-2 plug-ins via Console application 1.1 milliseconds @ 96 kHz sample rate
ANALOG I/O
Analog Inputs 1 – 8

Frequency Response 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB
Channel Separation (Crosstalk) >120 dB
Microphone Inputs 1 – 4
Jack Type Female XLR Balanced (pin 2 positive)
Phantom Power +48V, Switchable
Dynamic Range 118 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 118 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –110 dB
Equivalent Input Noise –128 dB
Common-Mode Rejection Ratio >60 dB (10’ cable)
Input Impedance 5.4 Kilohms
Gain Range +10 dB to +65 dB
Pad Attenuation 20 dB
Maximum Input Level (Minimum Gain, with Pad) 23.9 dBV
Maximum Input Level (Maximum Gain, with Pad) –31.1 dBV
Hi–Z Inputs
Jack Type ¼” Male (Mono TS plug required)
Dynamic Range 117 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 117 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –103 dB
Input Impedance 2.2 Megohms
Gain Range +10 dB to +65 dB
Maximum Input Level (Minimum Gain) 10 dBV
Maximum Input Level (Maximum Gain) –45 dBV
Line Inputs 1 – 4
Jack Type ¼”Male TRS Balanced
Dynamic Range 117 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 117 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –107 dB
Common-Mode Rejection Ratio >60 dB (10’ cable)
Stereo Level Balance ±0.05 dB
Input Impedance 10 Kilohms
Gain Range +10 dB to +65 dB
Maximum Input Level (Min Gain) 18 dBV
Maximum Input Level (Max Gain) –37 dBV
Line Inputs 5 – 8
Jack Type ¼” Male TRS Balanced
Dynamic Range 117 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 117 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –107 dB
Common-Mode Rejection Ratio >60 dB (10’ cable)
Stereo Level Balance ±0.05 dB
Input Impedance 10 Kilohms
Gain Settings +4 dBu / –10 dBV (selectable)
Maximum Input Level (+4 dBu) 18 dBV
Maximum Input Level (–10 dBV) –6 dBV
Line Outputs 1 – 8
Jack Type ¼” Male TRS Balanced
Dynamic Range 118 dB (A–weighting)
Frequency Response 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 118 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –106 dB
Stereo Level Balance ±0.05 dB
Channel Separation >120 dB
Output Impedance 600 Ohms
Maximum Output Level 18 dBV
Monitor Outputs 1 – 2
Jack Type ¼” Male TRS Balanced
Frequency Response 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB
Dynamic Range 115 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 114 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –103 dB
Channel Separation >120 dB
Stereo Level Balance ±0.05 dB
Output Impedance 600 Ohms
Output Gain Range -78 dBV to 18 dBV
Maximum Output Level 18 dBV
Stereo Headphone Outputs 1 & 2
Jack Type ¼” Male TRS Stereo/Unbalanced
Frequency Response 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB
Dynamic Range 113 dB (A–weighting)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 113 dB (A–weighting)
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise –101 dB
Channel Separation >114 dB
Output Impedance 12 Ohms
Output Gain Range 0 dBV to 15 dBV
Maximum Output Level 80 milliwatts
Old 8th March 2012
  #1729
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So I put the Apollo hardware specs up and that's what finally did it.
After 58 pages and 1714 posts I killed this thread!
Who'd a thunk it?
Nothing for 7 hours and counting...
Do I win a free Apollo?
Old 8th March 2012
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You win your sanity!
Old 8th March 2012
  #1731
I love my PRISM Orpheus and Uad Duo. And Apollo makes me buy it !!!
I Won))
Old 8th March 2012
  #1732
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All the Apollo units on Thomann are sold out! soon we will get reviews from users! nice. they will be back in stock 20/3
Old 8th March 2012
  #1733
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All the Apollo units on Thomann are sold out! soon we will get reviews from users! nice. they will be back in stock 20/3
That´s because they are not shipped yet. Thomann just changed the status.
Old 8th March 2012
  #1734
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The thread that wouldn't die has arisen from the dead yet again.
Sort of.
Turns out the "free Apollo" I won is a one way ticket to the moon
on a Saturn 5 rocket.
Shoulda read the fine print…
Has it occurred to anyone that UA keeps postponing shipping dates
because they're too busy yuking it up reading all these fascinating posts?
Or maybe they want to make everyone happy so they keep changing
the i/o configuration, the converters, the form factor, everything
according to the latest wish list published here?
Think about it before you post.
Old 8th March 2012
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Old 8th March 2012
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Old 8th March 2012
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Yeah.
That means the thread is gonna be very very very very veeeery useful.

And you know what,
your posting will be checked by UA guys than here.
We can show them how bad we want the best quality ADDA there.
Old 9th March 2012
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As long as the adda compares with the ensemble or rme UFX (same quality and specs), they did their job. Anything below that quality turns their gear into a "gimmick". If its Metric Halo quality(converters), then it's a deal! I don't expect them to try to match a symphony io, though.
Old 9th March 2012
  #1739
Local distributor "Tuerk Music" (in South Africa) want $4000 for the Quad Apollo - instantly less appealing upon receiving this price…
Old 9th March 2012
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Suggestion : Uppon release of the Apollo : lets close this one and have a strictly moderated new threat in regards of quality ADDA and co..

Otherwise I assume this might let PC vs. Mac / Protools vs. Cubase and ITB vs OTB look like a childrens party
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