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new VU meter and trim plugin: Klanghelm VUMT (Win & Mac 32 & 64 Bit plus standalone)
Old 29th May 2012
  #181
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Sorry... I don't use Logic. Just happened to see that in the vid and thought I'd mention it, since you're wanting to use K-Metering. I really have no idea what it does.
No, I don't want to use K-Metering. I was just setting my gainstages to -12dBFS to run my outboard automatically a little hotter
Old 3rd July 2012
  #182
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Hi everyone.

Just got info from PSPaudioware. They will release new version of their PSP VU2 meter ! I wonder will it be as good and free as present 1.0 version
Old 19th April 2013
  #183
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Old thread I know but just wanted to say I am joining the club. This meter looks great so I just bought it. Looking forward to using it. i mainly bumped this so people like me looking for a good meter may see this, I had to weigh through tons of google crap to find this!
Old 20th April 2013
  #184
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Yup!
Old 20th April 2013
  #185
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I use this all the time in conjunction with sonalksis freeg plugin. Freeg is used to capture the highest peak values whereas I use klanghelm as my main reference meter for the track.
Old 23rd May 2013
  #186
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Old thread I know but just wanted to say I am joining the club. This meter looks great so I just bought it. Looking forward to using it. i mainly bumped this so people like me looking for a good meter may see this, I had to weigh through tons of google crap to find this!
Amen... Bought!
Old 28th August 2013
  #187
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Just bought it because of too many positive reviews.

So this deserves a BUMP!
Old 26th September 2013
  #188
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Just bought it because of too many positive reviews.

So this deserves a BUMP!
Definitely yes heh
Old 29th October 2013
  #189
This is the metering plugin I was searching for! It looks easy at first sight but it has so much 'hidden' features. I like it already. heh
Old 26th February 2014
  #190
Hi,

Will this plugin allow me to draw gain automation using dB values not Midi CC?

Here's my problem: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/cubas...utomation.html

Thanks,

Gaz
Old 26th February 2014
  #191
Hi,

Will this plugin allow me to draw gain automation using dB values not Midi CC?

Here's my problem: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/cubas...utomation.html

Thanks,

Gaz
Old 26th February 2014
  #192
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Hi,

Will this plugin allow me to draw gain automation using dB values not Midi CC?
Works fine in Logic. I couldn't say about Cubase. Perhaps someone else could chime in.
Old 28th February 2014
  #193
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Hi,

Will this plugin allow me to draw gain automation using dB values not Midi CC?

Here's my problem: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/cubas...utomation.html

Thanks,

Gaz
I don't think so. It's just a meter and not designed to affect the sound directly at all
Old 28th February 2014
  #194
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I don't think so. It's just a meter and not designed to affect the sound directly at all
It has a gain control.
Old 3rd March 2014
  #195
Thanks guys,

Found out that you can draw gain automation on the WAV form similar to what I've seen on Pro-Tools tutorials. It doesn't show dB values and you can't use the curved line tool, but it's near enough.

Here's a pic:



Steinberg should allow the line tool for this job so you can get curves easily, and also remove the need for 4 hitpoints for a simple increase/decrease.

Gaz
Old 6th August 2014
  #196
I completely blew off this plugin when I first saw it, but the past 6 months, I've been more conscious of the -18 db tracking (-12 if you follow Masseys meter). I've stopped trying to slam my tracks to the top of the peak meter and started tracking more conservatively. Mostly to allow a bunch of room for random peaks or for when the vocalist gets extra enthusiastic, but also to keep from pushing the analog converters to hard, which is something I never really thought about in the past.

I was about to sell my Klanghelm DC8C the other day because I'm trying to go all pt11, and Klanghelm was one of the last ones on my list that still hadnt gone over. Then I saw that they had updated their whole line to AAX! I was ecstatic, to know this would be a company that would continue on and I could still use. I got my AAX copies the freebies and DC8C, and purchased the meters. These are awesome. You don't realize how tweak-able they really are just from the image of the GUI. And they are super accurate. I ran a signal generator through it to test it.. Very accurate and honest. I'll be reaching for this thing when I set pre amp levels.. Making sure the needle hovers around 0 vu (-18 on peak).
Old 6th August 2014
  #197
Double post, apologies.
Old 6th August 2014
  #198
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Making sure the needle hovers around 0 vu (-18 on peak).
Little OT here: I do that gainstaging at -18 since a long time now, but still can wrap my head around this question: I do -18 measuring peaks. With basses I read then almost 0 VU. With e.g. hihats VU-meter doesn't almost move.

Do you then boost the hihats until you read 0VU? Or do you still go for the peak?
Old 6th August 2014
  #199
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You can't rely on the VU reading alone for short percussive sources such as a hi-hat. You'll likely be clipping quite heavily by the time you hit [email protected], so keep an eye on your peak levels too (-18dBFS being the average target level, not peak). Just leave a comfortable amount of headroom for any stray peaks (I aim for around -9dBFS for example.)

So in short, go for a level of around [email protected] or a peak level of roughly -10dBFS, whichever you hit first. A hi-hat might be at something like -10VU at this point.
Old 6th August 2014
  #200
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Little OT here: I do that gainstaging at -18 since a long time now, but still can wrap my head around this question: I do -18 measuring peaks. With basses I read then almost 0 VU. With e.g. hihats VU-meter doesn't almost move.

Do you then boost the hihats until you read 0VU? Or do you still go for the peak?
VU meters are much slower than peak meters, klanghelms is set to 300 ms attack, so punchy percussion stuff won't trigger the VU much, where long sustained bass would.

For short percussive stuff, I would probably use the peak meter more than the VU. I'd be looking to see the signal peak at -18 on the peak meter, everything else I'd be going for 0 on VU.
Old 6th August 2014
  #201
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You can't rely on the VU reading alone for short percussive sources such as a hi-hat. You'll likely be clipping quite heavily by the time you hit [email protected], so keep an eye on your peak levels too (-18dBFS being the average target level, not peak). Just leave a comfortable amount of headroom for any stray peaks (I aim for around -9dBFS for example.)

So in short, go for a level of around [email protected] or a peak level of roughly -10dBFS, whichever you hit first. A hi-hat might be at something like -10VU at this point.
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VU meters are much slower than peak meters, klanghelms is set to 300 ms attack, so punchy percussion stuff won't trigger the VU much, where long sustained bass would.

For short percussive stuff, I would probably use the peak meter more than the VU. I'd be looking to see the signal peak at -18 on the peak meter, everything else I'd be going for 0 on VU.

Just what I thought too. Thanks! Now let's go back to topic heh
Old 6th August 2014
  #202
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Gain staging is hardly off topic in this instance if you ask me!
Old 9th October 2014
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Tony, Still really wishing the VU meter has a phase reverse button. Since this is the first plug on every channel,
it would be really handy to have.

Also wish I could "lock" the skin. It keeps changing whenever I click on the lower left to get the numerical readout.
Old 9th October 2014
  #204
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Tony, Still really wishing the VU meter has a phase reverse button. Since this is the first plug on every channel,
it would be really handy to have.

Also wish I could "lock" the skin. It keeps changing whenever I click on the lower left to get the numerical readout.
+1. Good points.
Old 17th March 2016
  #205
Best VU meters to put into a DAW.
Old 17th March 2016
  #206
Any news on update?
Old 18th March 2016
  #207
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Was there something about "resizing" in the works for the next update?
Old 18th March 2016
  #208
Yes, that will be great.
Old 18th March 2016
  #209
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Was there something about "resizing" in the works for the next update?
Yes, he mentioned that to me too...
Old 19th March 2016
  #210
I like VU meters and after seeing how it works I pulled the trigger
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