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Steven Slate REVIEW new 1.5 and elite mixer edition.
Old 2nd September 2007
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Steven Slate REVIEW new 1.5 and elite mixer edition.

Just picked up the newest Steven Slate sample set 1.5 Elite Mixer Version after Using the version one first incarnation for months since its been out.. I have been using (and maybe abusing) all the hits as drum helpers and to supplement and or replace drums totality and or partially aiding. I usually tend to leave some snare and kick to leave some of the drummer s dynamics but that’s just my preference. I have heard a ton of mixes done on 100 % by Steven slate users and some of Stevens demos on his page and they sound killer that way no doubt! Im just another anal drummer (: I replace all the hits manually in slow tools using tab to transient, cut and paste. I own drumagog as well and highly recommend it to Steven slate sample users plug. Anyway thought I’d give e on update on using the original version samples (1) and on the new samples Steven just put out the elite mixer edition 1.5.

The way I typically work with bands when im doing an ep or record is I will record drums to a click (sometimes a scratch guitar and vocal track if the drummer wants it) and then I will edit the drums and so on. I spend a good amount of time getting drum sounds and im usually very happy with my drum sounds. 10 guitar, 8 vocal , 2 keys, bass, etc etc tracks later the drums don’t seem as big as they did when it was just the drums and the scratch tracks, and I’m scratching my head trying to figure out why the drums just don’t sound as big anymore. Of course if I thought for a second and realized that all those beefy guitar and bass tracks that sound amazing on their own but when compared to the drums now the drums are small and thin. Subtractive eq on the other instruments will only help this issue a drop but the real answer adding and supplementing the drums with samples but not just any samples, samples that have some nice ambience and smack to them. Steves new 1.5 update and elite mixer series include both z2 room as well as z4 ambience (and of course z1 and z3) to really add depth and HUGE ness to your drums and help them stick out in those dense 100 track mixes . Just make sure to use them on a stereo aux or audio track to get those full room sounds a mono track wont do the trick (:

It was love at first sight for sure, I really liked the way steve recorded/ processed and went about putting together his original samples, they all had something to offer and lot of the samples reminded me of stuff very similar to how the drums sounded on a lot of big records the big guys are mixing a few mixers come to mind….Randy Staub- all the kicks and snare 10-z1,z2 and so forth , all the kicks just have the right amount of sub and punch, the perfect top end and all that juicy drum tone .
And-
Chris Lord Alge , Snare 8 from version 1. Combined with any of the other snares for the deep grainy but still crack full snare (all American rejects, daughtry ,hoobastank stuff) really remind me of that cla drum mix.


The new “elite mixer edition 1.5” left off right where version one started, but adding a bunch of new Punchy radio ready samples that Steven slate is famous for My fav so far is snare 14z1,z2 and kick12 z1. There really is a wide variety of snares, toms and kicks for everyone from pop to country to metal to blues etc etc. I could prob go on but I don’t want to bore you all to death but I really do believe these are the best samples to come out in years and your in for a treat with the new 1.5 elit mixer series the z4 ambient samples are really slick and amazing in adding TRUE room sound to your mixes . I don’t work for steven slate samples just a happy customer and I appreciate great product when I see one and their friendly customer service doesn’t hurt either (:

PS. The toms don’t get enough love and they all kick major ass!!

Buy it and see for youself.
Old 2nd September 2007
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Thanks for sharing...
Got me interested.
Old 2nd September 2007
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Awesome man! im glad. Keep on rocking and good luck with your music . SHARING IS CARING haha
Old 3rd September 2007
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it's true. insta-huge. makes me want to jump off a building but they work great and sounds awesome.
Old 4th September 2007
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I get the insta huge. I don't get the jump off the building. But don't jump please, or if you do let it be of a three foot building.

Anyway, one more hour until the labor day sale is done, save 80 bucks on the Elite Mixer Edition!

Jake thanks for the review!

Joel
Old 4th September 2007
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I don't have a sub, and when people with a sub listen to my mixes with SS kick samples they say their sub is about to explode. Do you guys usually cut the sub lows in the kick after you sample replace?
Old 4th September 2007
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The Slate kicks are VERY even with the perfect balance of top to bottom, so what I'm assuming is that you are mixing them too high and hence they are taking over the mix with the low end. Steven ALWAYS recommends mixing with a sub.

In fact if I'm at my home studio (I do have a sub there too) I'll use the slate kick as a reference for the entire mix's low end. SUB my friend, you need one!
Joel
Old 5th September 2007
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Hell ye, my pleasure joel (: keep putting out killa products

J-
Old 6th September 2007
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Steven, is it possible to release them in Battery/Kontakt format? It would really be convenient for us arrangers/producers who tend to program the music from the start without 'fixing sounds in the mix'. It's great for mixing engineers using Drumagog but it would be cool if it were also available in a format that music composers/arrangers could use as well....

Let me know as I'm really interested, thanks.
Old 6th September 2007
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MPC, Steven Slate Drums 2.0 (coming soon) will be a fully featured drum software with full cymbal pack, mapped for Kontakt and other samplers. It will be for programmers like yourself. And it will sound AWESOME!
Joel
Old 7th September 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowMatter View Post
MPC, Steven Slate Drums 2.0 (coming soon) will be a fully featured drum software with full cymbal pack, mapped for Kontakt and other samplers. It will be for programmers like yourself. And it will sound AWESOME!
Joel
Looking forward to it! Any ideas as to when? Next month or next year....?

Don't forget to map for Structure as well since it seems more and more programmers are using that as well...
Old 7th September 2007
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hey joel just curious how long express shipping to the USA usually takes? i ordered the 1.5 over the holiday weekend with express shipping and was hoping to have it in my grubby paws real soon... cant wait!!
Old 7th September 2007
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Yes we will have it available for structure as well. Right now the key is getting the cymbal pack really fine tuned so that it flawlessly integrates with the hits to make huge sounding kits instantly. Like their drum hit counterparts, the cymbals were recorded to two inch tape and have a great shimmery gloss to them.

International shipping takes 3-5 business days, email us if you feel its taking longer then that
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Old 7th September 2007
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Were you guys working on your own custom player as well? I thought someone had mention it.
Old 7th September 2007
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I voted against the custom player for a few reasons:

-Many people are very familiar with their software sampler of choice, ie Kontakt, EXS, Halion, Reason, etc.

-Given that all of Steven's hits are premixed (and not multitracked live kits) it doesn't seem as important to have a custom interface. In our testing, its quite easy to get some huge sounding results even with the GM kit that we mapped out. HOWEVER, there will be custom options that we'll map into the samplers that will provide the user to get really detailed and go way beyond what you can do with a GM kit.
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