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Old 22nd September 2020
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SaturnLO 1.0.4.0 / MercuryRec 1.0.1.0

Updated versions of SaturnLO and MercuryRec are available on Center.

Changelog:

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SaturnLO

VST3:
- Gain Bright Cap + switch added (Overdrive channel).
- Stability improvement: startup.
- Stability improvement: model re-initialization.
- Studio One: burst avoidance at startup.

Renderer:
- Gain Bright Cap + switch added (Overdrive channel).


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MercuryRec

VST3:
- Tweak: OUTPAD switch added (Vintage / Modern channels).
- Stability improvement: startup.
- Stability improvement: model re-initialization.
- Studio One: burst avoidance at startup.

Renderer:
- Tweak: OUTPAD switch added (Vintage / Modern channels).

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In particular, we added the Gain Bright Cap (open circuit by default to keep retro-compatibility) on SaturnLO to respect the adhrence with the original circuit - we also checked our real amp before doing it.




The absence of Gain Bright Cap is also known as "Warren Haynes" mod: it gives a darker tone, mainly at lower gain (PREAMP knob) settings.
Old 29th September 2020 | Show parent
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Any further discussions about a Mac version? 😜

Mac! Mac! Mac! 😁
Old 29th September 2020 | Show parent
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Tim Petherick does his SCS power amp for Nebula so something like that after Saturn preamp followed by a cab IR, would that be a recommended chain do you think? Or Preamp followed by just a cabinet is perfectly fine?
I would not recommend to add more distortion after a higain preamp in general. This is not how a poweramp is supposed to work in a higain amp. The distortion 99 per cent of the times comes from the preamp. The power amp is meant to produce volume, not to make the tone (the preamp does). Yes we can discuss about how different wattage affects the tone: anyway I personally don't like low watt poweramp on higain amps, even if in this period they are very trendy.

If we were discussing about reproducing the plexi sound I may even understand, but this is not the case for SaturnLO or MercuryRec.
Old 29th September 2020 | Show parent
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I would not recommend to add more distortion after a higain preamp in general. This is not how a poweramp is supposed to work in a higain amp. The distortion 99 per cent of the times comes from the preamp. The power amp is meant to produce volume, not to make the tone (the preamp does). Yes we can discuss about how different wattage affects the tone: anyway I personally don't like low watt poweramp on higain amps, even if in this period they are very trendy.

If we were discussing about reproducing the plexi sound I may even understand, but this is not the case for SaturnLO or MercuryRec.
Hopefully this topic will go on soon in another thread.
Old 1st October 2020 | Show parent
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Just blank GUI when opening and blue spinning wheel.
Your license expired, indeed.

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EDIT: OK looking at a log file its says license expired even though I had added trial to my account today. Also you said in Powercab thread that all Trials will be reset, when does that happen?
Reset not done yet, I'll notify when done.
Old 1st October 2020
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All trials - SaturnLO, MercuryRec - have just been reset

Cheers
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Your license expired, indeed.



Reset not done yet, I'll notify when done.

Ok thanks. I'll remove my neg comment
Old 2nd October 2020 | Show parent
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Hi guys, have trials been reset yet? How do we know how long left on trials as there seems to be no feedback anywhere on time left, either in plugin or on site? Also do I need to reinstall/re-authorize when trials have been reset.

It would be great if interface warned that trial had expired as currently it just freezes my session in Reaper, Win10

Cheers!
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Hi guys, have trials been reset yet?
Hello Bob,

we reset the trials yesterday (3 posts ago ).

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How do we know how long left on trials as there seems to be no feedback anywhere on time left, either in plugin or on site?
We reported this info on both the Plugin and the Renderer, at menu level (any of the menus: LOAD, SAVE, SET, TWEAK):





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Also do I need to reinstall/re-authorize when trials have been reset.
Yep, it is needed to update the license files.

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It would be great if interface warned that trial had expired as currently it just freezes my session in Reaper, Win10
Adding a warning or a more explicit interface when the TRIAL is expired is a possible improvement, I agree with you (added to the TODO list). Currently the GUI does not show up anymore and the output mutes itself, simply.

However, once the TRIAL is expired, it does not freeze the session in Reaper: you can open your project as many times as you want!
Not only: if you reinstall the TRIAL or you buy the FULL version, you will be able to go on working with the last preset saved in the project.
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Hello Bob,

we reset the trials yesterday (3 posts ago ).


Thank you! (and for your patience with me too )

Ugh its a tough one, I'm testing a guitar track and currently the free ChowCentaur Klon clone (love this for distortion at the moment) going into Virgo followed by Dibiquadro powercabs is a dream (purchasing Powercabs for sure). I'm swapping out Virgo with Saturn and its not winning me over yet but will try on other guitar tracks. Great work though guys, some sweet plugins you're making.

EDIT: DAMN those tweaks are fun in Saturn! I'm buying sod it

EDIT 2: Am emailing you. Getting some really nasty pops and volume spikes. Saturn then freezes sometimes with blue spinning wheel. Even restarting session, random pops and spikes. This is default crunch patch. Was fine for 10 minutes and now I can't get it to behave at all. Reloading plugin still same dropouts issue.
Old 2nd October 2020 | Show parent
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EDIT 2: Am emailing you. Getting some really nasty pops and volume spikes. Saturn then freezes sometimes with blue spinning wheel. Even restarting session, random pops and spikes. This is defaulty cunch patch. Was fine for 10 minutes and now I can't get it to behave at all. Reloading plugin still same dropouts issue.
That is weird. Win10 + Reaper is what we use to process audio - we refer to Rea plugs even in the videos - and we have never experienced what you describe. We spent the last 20minutes trying to replicate it on 2 different machines (Intel, AMD), but everything went fine. We regularly check memory usage to spot memory leaks: no memory leaks, as far as we know. Once the circuit model is loaded, it is stable and it doesn't require additional resources.

I did not see your system details in your message, however I would suggest to increase the block size and see what happens.
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That is weird. Win10 + Reaper is what we use to process audio - we refer to Rea plugs even in the videos - and we have never experienced what you describe. We spent the last 20minutes trying to replicate it on 2 different machines (Intel, AMD), but everything went fine. We regularly check memory usage to spot memory leaks: no memory leaks, as far as we know. Once the circuit model is loaded, it is stable and it doesn't require additional resources.

I did not see your system details in your message, however I would suggest to increase the block size and see what happens.
I will try and if it happens again I will record a video. Buffer was at 1024
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Brand new Reaper session, imported a guitar track, added Saturn and loaded Crunch preset. Turned the preamp gain down and up a bit and you can see all the glitching and volume jumps (Apologies for poor video quality, had to shoot on phone as couldnt get screen recorders to work)


Old 3rd October 2020 | Show parent
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Brand new Reaper session, imported a guitar track, added Saturn and loaded Crunch preset. Turned the preamp gain down and up a bit and you can see all the glitching and volume jumps (Apologies for poor video quality, had to shoot on phone as couldnt get screen recorders to work)


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It is very difficult to understand from this video. It seems you slowed down the tempo of the song which affects your track, or there was a tuning of the guitar going on and a loop. But even by doing this we cannot reproduce the crackle and SaturnLO behaves flawlessly on our side (I use 88.2KHz, 512 sample block size on a i7 + a PowerCab): no crackle at all.

Crackles when reproducing audio is a very common problem: there are many tutorials on google on how to fix it. It may be due to Reaper settings (SR, block size...), your settings on Sound (Control Panel, Hardware and Sound, Sound, check SR and bit depth), other Windows processes taking over your audio resources ecc... It takes patience to fix, but it is worth it.

Feel free to give us more detail via our support.
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Brand new Reaper session, imported a guitar track, added Saturn and loaded Crunch preset. Turned the preamp gain down and up a bit and you can see all the glitching and volume jumps (Apologies for poor video quality, had to shoot on phone as couldnt get screen recorders to work)
@ BobMaloogalooga

A quick suggestion that may help you narrow down the cause of your problem: install a portable version of Reaper in a new folder, load the same 'glitching' session and see what happens.

Maybe you've inadvertently changed some settings in Reaper's configuration page... it happened to me two or three times in the past, and the cure was to have Reaper reset its configuration file.
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@ BobMaloogalooga

A quick suggestion that may help you narrow down the cause of your problem: install a portable version of Reaper in a new folder, load the same 'glitching' session and see what happens.

Maybe you've inadvertently changed some settings in Reaper's configuration page... it happened to me two or three times in the past, and the cure was to have Reaper reset its configuration file.
Thank you Stedal, will try when back in studio. This is not standard crackle of an overloaded CPU or buffer, at end of video it shows massive volume spike. Very bizarre. Will report back on using Reaper portable though.

Yeah it’s just a previous alt tuning guitar recording imported to Reaper just for a test. I looped the timeline but it happens without the loop too
Old 4th October 2020 | Show parent
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@ BobMaloogalooga

A quick suggestion that may help you narrow down the cause of your problem: install a portable version of Reaper in a new folder, load the same 'glitching' session and see what happens.

Maybe you've inadvertently changed some settings in Reaper's configuration page... it happened to me two or three times in the past, and the cure was to have Reaper reset its configuration file.
Unfortunately happening the same in portable version. Sending Dibiquadro support files as requested now because this was really nice plugin when I had it working briefly!
Old 16th October 2020
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Yesterday we released new versions of Center/SaturnLO/MercuryRec (details reported in each download page, and in the Powercab thread).

Now we have just released another update for MercuryRec (version 1.0.2.1 - available on Center):

VST3 and Renderer
– Tweak: Vintage/Modern: default values corrected for R_GAIN, R_MASTER, R_PRESENCE

Old DAW projects will keep the old values, unless you decide to press the "RESET" button in the "Tweak" section.

New instances of MercuryRec will use the new values by default.
Old 3 days ago | Show parent
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Yesterday we released new versions of Center/SaturnLO/MercuryRec (details reported in each download page, and in the Powercab thread).

Now we have just released another update for MercuryRec (version 1.0.2.1 - available on Center):

VST3 and Renderer
– Tweak: Vintage/Modern: default values corrected for R_GAIN, R_MASTER, R_PRESENCE

Old DAW projects will keep the old values, unless you decide to press the "RESET" button in the "Tweak" section.

New instances of MercuryRec will use the new values by default.
Hi. I'm a sucker for pre-amps, so I was interested quickly. What me really convinced in the end is the incredible deep section for tweaking. Getting experimental and being able to change everything to get into unknown territory is one of my passions. I'm not only seeing those tools as a pure thing for guitars only. It's usable for everything audio-wise. But if it can't be tweaked, it becomes a single usage tool too fast.

Your product sounds incredibly good and I'm sad to read that there isn't much interest in your stuff.

Maybe you should contact the people who are prominent on YouTube. I'm not thinking of the usual long haired guitar swinging heroes which play down their DeathMetal riffs, I mean mix and mastering engineers and guys with a heart for tweaking and sound - design.

Warren, from Produce Like a Pro or David from MixbusTV come to mind.

Most of them, including myself are suckers for all kind of saturation and distortion units as they are the weapon for getting great mixes or pmiped up sound - design. I only can guess but I think when you change strategy here and get the great guys in boat, you will get a big audience with interest in your stuff.

Wish you all the best and hopefully we all will hear more great things from you in the future. Cheers
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Have to mix a guitar overpowered rock song which has also a clean funky rythmic guitar in it which is going under. It sounds like the guitar was recorded directly via a console channel in.
i love this sound and didn't want to alter it much but at the same time make it have a chance against all those heavily guitars.

Mercury Rec did the job in no time. Clean channel. Low input, tweaking the gain and master as well as the presence. done. It's like a miracle. Full, rich and vivid sound, standing out in the crowded mix

At the same time it cleaned up the rumble and made the sound real tight. Wow, great tool.

Great great great one, guys. It is really alive. It's reacting where often other amp sims just mimic, this seems to have a life of its own.
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Have to mix a guitar overpowered rock song which has also a clean funky rythmic guitar in it which is going under. It sounds like the guitar was recorded directly via a console channel in.
i love this sound and didn't want to alter it much but at the same time make it have a chance against all those heavily guitars.

Mercury Rec did the job in no time. Clean channel. Low input, tweaking the gain and master as well as the presence. done. It's like a miracle. Full, rich and vivid sound, standing out in the crowded mix

At the same time it cleaned up the rumble and made the sound real tight. Wow, great tool.

Great great great one, guys. It is really alive. It's reacting where often other amp sims just mimic, this seems to have a life of its own.
What system are you on? I would be all over this but just can’t get it to work on Win10 without constant problems. Devs weren’t that interested in helping unfortunately
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What system are you on? I would be all over this but just can’t get it to work on Win10 without constant problems. Devs weren’t that interested in helping unfortunately
Oh. That's not good to hear. That and the fact its not avaiable for all platform doesn't make it better that the interest isn't too big, as they stated.

I still use Win7 PC 64 bit VST 3. So far no problems.
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Oh. That's not good to hear. That and the fact its not avaiable for all platform doesn't make it better that the interest isn't too big, as they stated.

I still use Win7 PC 64 bit VST 3. So far no problems.
Oh interesting, thanks for letting me know. Might setup an older PC just for testing and see if I can get it to behave
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Oh interesting, thanks for letting me know. Might setup an older PC just for testing and see if I can get it to behave
Thanks also as I will stay away from Win10.I got this on a test machine, maybe I'll try if it works there. Unfortunately the days of Win7 are counted.
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We give support as much as we can, mainly from https://dibiquadroaudio.com/contact-us/ , and normally we reply quickly (most of the times in less than one hour from the request). Sometimes we read complaints only on public posts, and we need to ask explicitly to be contacted on our support page. In very few cases (like the one of Bob) it's not really clear if the problem is on plugin side or on his system side and we simply cannot give the support we would like to give, but in the end trials are made to avoid wrong purchases. In a pair of cases we did not hesitate to refund (One of these was a Mac user that wrongly purchased SaturnLO, some months ago). In other cases, we give very good discounts (normally enough to get SaturnLO or Mercury for free) just because the user helps us to analyse his issue. So I would say that we normally appreciate communication and collaboration (and to receive any kind of support in general: thank you!).

In these last days we sold a good number of licenses, and we received only one request of support, due to the fact that a user created 2 different accounts and registered the same serial on both (this is not allowed for security reasons): I personally fixed the situation in less than one hour.

We have been working hard for more than one month to port SaturnLO and MercuryRec on Mac. That said, we cannot tell any release date yet, because we want to have the maximum stability possible.

Cheers.
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That sounds very good. Thanks for your participation and clarification. Cheers and all the best to you.
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We give support as much as we can, mainly from https://dibiquadroaudio.com/contact-us/ , and normally we reply quickly (most of the times in less than one hour from the request). Sometimes we read complaints only on public posts, and we need to ask explicitly to be contacted on our support page. In very few cases (like the one of Bob) it's not really clear if the problem is on plugin side or on his system side and we simply cannot give the support we would like to give, but in the end trials are made to avoid wrong purchases. In a pair of cases we did not hesitate to refund (One of these was a Mac user that wrongly purchased SaturnLO, some months ago). In other cases, we give very good discounts (normally enough to get SaturnLO or Mercury for free) just because the user helps us to analyse his issue. So I would say that we normally appreciate communication and collaboration (and to receive any kind of support in general: thank you!).

In these last days we sold a good number of licenses, and we received only one request of support, due to the fact that a user created 2 different accounts and registered the same serial on both (this is not allowed for security reasons): I personally fixed the situation in less than one hour.

We have been working hard for more than one month to port SaturnLO and MercuryRec on Mac. That said, we cannot tell any release date yet, because we want to have the maximum stability possible.

Cheers.
I sent you a bunch of files that you asked for and never heard from you again. Happy to carry on trouble shooting with you? I have a standard Win10 pro installation and no issues with any other software and I have many plugins. I will email you again.
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