With RX, if I've got time I like to beam all the vocals, section by section, into it, and sort out any issues - mouth clicks, pops and rumble, any ringing resonances and de-essing any whistling esses.

I don't generally use the de-ess module - I'm usually highlighting areas and using spectral editing to dull them down. It's also usually when there's some esses brighter than others - I'm just tucking them in and evening things out.

Thanks PM.

Yea I wish I would have had RX for the last big vocal I did. I had one track where I sounded like I was whistling a ditty (!) and took forever getting it reasonable with automating EQ and levels.

Going to really spend a few days digging into RX. It's serious tool.

R.

(P.S. Still really digging Johnny Hunter!)

Yes - I'm pretty sure I just scratch the surface of it, but I find it so useful!


Thanks! Have you heard the full EP now? it was released last week - another 2 songs to complete it!

Indeed I have. Just listened to it after I wrote my last message. And very good it is too! Gonna have to keep an eye on them. Would love to see them over here at some point but I guess that future is a way off now. Sigh.

OK. Sorry for the OT chaps!

R.

I’m a songwriter/producer trying to get my tracks to sound as well mixed as possible with minimal effort.
I know a little bit about mixing but I think it’s way too boring compared to making new ****.

Soothe seems like a must have, but in the demos I’ve heard/watched the difference seems way too subtle - should I just skip this one and what other “mixing-for-dummies”-plugins might you recommend?

I got Gullfoss, love that thing - more stuff like this, less copies of copied compressors - I want **** that anyone can hear not the subtle mouse fart in the background stuff

Sounds like you need to hire a mixer. Takes essentially 0 effort

Izotope's Music Production Suite 3.1 on offer now I would say is the best deal currently for stuff like that to start off with. Has literally everything you could need included up to a very good level, loads of presets and help with mixing and mastering, unmasking, inter-plugin communication. Best product for the money imo.

Thanks again


I was gonna say - it's hardly a way to strive for excellence!

try tbproaudio DSEQ! u can use it from subtle to very obvious and it have a few more great features. it took nearly all my soothe tasks over!

Agree with this. Izotope has the best smart mixing package IMO. Gullfoss is cool but I would hesitate to slap it on everything, does more harm than good often in my experience. To the question on Soothe, it's great and a good tool for fixing harsh freq but again, please don't slap it on everything unless you want the life essence sucked out of your mix.

Part of the trickiness with soothe is its sweet spot is so dang small. Goes from nice to doo doo very very quickly. Slowing the release momentarily will make effect easier to hear.

Rule of thumb for songwriting and music production could be summed up as "Put **** in, get **** out."
You will never get good results with minimal effort, regardless of the tools that you have. There are no shortcuts. You learn by experience, which takes time and effort.

DSEQ greatly changes the sound by adding dirt.
Soothe works cleaner.

Yep

This post went down a lot better here than in the DSEQ 2 thread lol.

Just downloaded a demo of this to see if I'm into it before buying it. I tried running it as VST in Maschine on a snare drum group, and it's causing crazy latency. As soon as I turn on the plug in, my snare starts hitting like an 8th note late. Anyone know what's causing that?

Does Maschine have delay compensation, and do you have it enabled?

It introduces latency, so that's what is causing that, not uncommon on many plugins. I guess Maschine doesn't have latency compensation, not familiar with it. Works perfectly fine in a DAW w/ latency compensation, but I dont track with it for that reason, along with lots of plugins that also fall into that category.

Yeah definitely not for tracking.

Ahh, I see thanks for answers ya'll. A basic Google search is looking like Maschine does not have an latency compensation.

Definitely going to get this when it's on sale. Anyone use it unconventionally, like on the master to tame clashing tracks?

Hoping to fix vocals from cheap microphones.

Ive found a lot of uses. Lately I am using it all over drum tracks. I particularly like shaping snare drums with it. For example recently had some tracks with some dissonant ringing frequencies right above the fundamental, traditional EQ was too aggressive, dynamic EQ was taking too much life away even with very narrow notches, but Soothe2 kills for this kind of application. I didn't want/need to nuke these frequencies just tame them down so the deeper fundamental could come through louder. Dialing in narrow bumps in Soothe did it really quickly with very transparent results. Also can tame overly dissonant hihats to taste in overheads/room mics, and sometimes automating Soothe to turn on/off on particular crash cymbal hits if it gets too gnarly.

Also love it on acoustic guitar, usually just some subtle attenuation of harsher high freq's like 4kHz-10kHz type area, really helpful. Or Ive used it to help with occasional woofy frequencies on otherwise good acoustic tracks. One song I liked the bright acoustic for the intro, then automated Soothe on to dampen some highs and pick sound only when the vocals come in.

I also want to experiment with it more on bass drum or room mics, like low mid area.

Also, I've never used it on master but definitely buses.

As far as cheap vocal mics, it can help tame harshness, but specifically on cheap vocal tracks it can come at a bit of a cost depending on how bad/harsh they were to start with and how much subtractive processing was needed. Ive found ways to subsequently cheat "life" back into bad tracks. Basically Soothe and EQ to shape and de-harsh, but combine it with harmonically additive effects like saturation, barely perceptible delay, and reverb. Reverb basically for tone-shaping, like short room reverb with early reflections just a touch to add some life/meat/interest back after subtractive eq and Soothe'ing. Might add delay and reverb on the actual track as tone shaping, and then still send off to delay and reverb buses for actual "effects" purposes. Saturn2 is pretty good for this, being a multiband saturator it can push high-mids and highs pretty hard while leaving mids and lows less affected sounding. Waves J37 plugin is another one I like, there are lots of good saturation plugins these days actually. Saturn2 isn't always the absolute best saturation but the control is insane.

Can we expect the usual Black Friday sale?

I all ready have Soothe 2 but got an E-Mail saying this month they are allowing people who have demoed their two plugins in the past to demo them again so my guess is they are hoping to hook some people ready for the sale this BF.

Just a guess mind, could just be a co-incidence

Thanks and just like that, an email announcing the upcoming sale went out this morning.

So I got to try it again since they reset the trial and now I know how to use it while before I didn't know what it was really doing.

It's way better than using static EQ to notch out bad frequencies, esp. on the vocals. This is because the notches are dynamic and doesn't kill the life of the vocals. And my cheap condenser mics distort around 5k where a lot of life lay.

I'm going to try it on guitars now.

Might have to get this when the sale happens.

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It works way better than iZotope's offerings. I tried it on piano and it opened it up for a very natural sound, whereas the original sounded dark and boxy, now it sounded lively with a more typical sound of a piano.

been searching high and low about any sales for Soothe 2, but no dice. mind sharing what the email said re: any BF sales from Oeksound? peace and thanks!!

Soothe 2 for E139, Spiff for E99.

thank you for the info...those prices are exactly what I was hoping for!!

any info on when the sale begins?? how long it will last??

thanks again!