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AES 2019: Solid State Logic Preview ORIGIN – Next Generation Analogue Studio Console
Old 16th October 2019
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AES 2019: Solid State Logic Preview ORIGIN – Next Generation Analogue Studio Console


Solid State Logic (SSL) announce the first preview of the latest ORIGIN analogue console at AES NY 2019. As the latest in a long heritage of SSL studio mixing consoles, ORIGIN has traditional analogue studio workflow at its heart whilst providing the perfect partner for a modern DAW driven ‘hybrid’ production studio. The traditional design looks back to the ‘origin’ of in-line consoles for signal flow inspiration, but blends cutting edge analogue developments to deliver a unique sonic signature that is still unmistakably SSL.

A purely analogue, inline, dual channel design, with 16 buses, E Series EQ and the
classic Bus Compressor, ORIGIN breathes new life into a design classic across the whole console. The new PureDrive™ mic pre inherits the clarity and purity of previous SSL Mic Pre designs, that can also switch character to a warm, harmonically rich and driven tone that varies with mic pre gain. The new mix bus and mix amp architecture delivers an amazingly low noise floor along with a huge headroom for a summing bus, that retains the classic SSL sound while bringing the breadth and space to mixes that engineers and producers love from analogue summing. Balanced insert points per channel path, dedicated channel direct outputs, stem-ready 0dB fader bypass switches, and a new configurable centre section, make it an ideal way to add console workflow to a modern production studio.

“This really is the culmination of everything we have put into analogue console design over the past four decades” comments Niall Feldman, SSL Director of New Products. “ORIGIN is the studio console we would have created then, for the way we work today – it is quite simply a new analogue classic.”

“Music production is core to our origin at Solid State Logic” adds Nigel Beaumont, SSL Managing Director, “and it’s important we utilize this unique heritage to continue defining new products that are more accessible to the growing studio market. It allows us to deliver next generation consoles such as ORIGIN, with the right features, at the right price point, and of course, with that unmistakable SSL sound.”

For more information on ORIGIN and the story behind it, please head to the Solid State Logic website: https://www.solidstatelogic.com/studio/origin
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Old 16th October 2019
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Ta-da
MORE INFO! please
Old 16th October 2019
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...Show doesn't open for another half an hour...

Our website and social feeds will be updated shortly. More info will be updated there. Alternatively if you are in NY book a demo with our team at the show on booth 522 and see it in the flesh.
Old 16th October 2019
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I’m moved to tears although I have too many questions to dare asking.
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Well dayam. Itll be out of my price range but that is pretty as hell.
Old 16th October 2019
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Really nice looking.

Appears to be an *XXXL-Desk*. All analog, neither recall, midi nor automation capabilities whatsoever, probably the latter to be accomplished with a Sigma, if desired.

-Dual path, with *old skool* small and large faders. Mic pre and line trims per ch, 2 st Cues and 4 mono auxes, Direct out level, usual SSL EQ (close to the monitoring, very un-SSL). Cut and Solo buttons are small are not retro-illuminated, a very odd choice for this kind of console.
-8 groups with pan in the center section, but I can't see the buttons to assign to those on the ch strips, maybe it's soft assigned, like on the Duality? Don't look like they're Group VCAs
-6U in the center section to fit in whatever you might want.
-Typical SSL stuff in the center section, including Bus Comp. Also 16 rotary knobs in the center section. Busses? Groups? Summing?

It's a bit strange in the DAW era that there's no automation or anything to integrate the desk with rest of the digital studio of the XXI, maybe that was the idea, a simple, straight forward analog console. But there may be some way to control stuff remotely, from an iPad, like for bus assignments and such.

I don't understand the central section. With existing SSL devices and technology, it would have been great to have 8 midi faders, a la Nucleus, to control both DAWs and 1-2 inserted SIGMA, so you'd have both DAW control and automation. Maybe that's an option in the future.

Probably you can order it in any configuration, in 8 ch buckets, starting from 16ch. But it won't be cheap. Well done SSL

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Old 16th October 2019
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I especially love those ol skool plasma style meters.
Yeah i heard people loved those hahaha...
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Here's everything about the SSL ORIGIN

https://www.solidstatelogic.com/studio/ORIGIN

Modular central panel, but the analog faders must remain. Hope they do a 3U to control the 8 analog groups, and develop an insertable *8 Nucleus faders*. (unless they ARE soft faders, but wihtout a scribble strip??)

150kg, including legs. It's 32ch only
Old 16th October 2019
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There we go: SSL Origin

https://www.solidstatelogic.com/studio/ORIGIN
Old 16th October 2019
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pricing?
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hahaha.. the server is down
Old 16th October 2019
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SSL take my money already !!!

how much?
Old 16th October 2019
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Ta-da
NICE!

I got the SSL email. Website is a little off with lots of images not loading or things pointed to the wrong place. But I'm sure they will work that out real quick.

It's about to get really busy here. But I'm going to have some common questions:

1/ Price?

2/ Is the centre section going to available alone? Of course it should!

3/ Some form of automation / recall?

4/ When?

5/ Would the centre section play with say the Sigma or XL Desk etc...?

IT's going to be a busy day for SSL.

I love it
Old 16th October 2019
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50K USD. Well, $49,999 to be exact.
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- How does the bus routing work? I mean, there's only one bus routing button, and 16 buses? How do you assign these?
- The center 8 channels / groups .. how do you route audio to these?
Old 16th October 2019
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Is this built in the UK, or outsourced like the Fusion and Six? Not that I generally care anymore in 2019, but for a product this large it would be interesting to know.
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NICE!

I got the SSL email. Website is a little off with lots of images not loading or things pointed to the wrong place. But I'm sure they will work that out real quick.

It's about to get really busy here. But I'm going to have some common questions:

1/ Price?

2/ Is the centre section going to available alone? Of course it should!

3/ Some form of automation / recall?

4/ When?

5/ Would the centre section play with say the Sigma or XL Desk etc...?

IT's going to be a busy day for SSL.

I love it
1 - as above
2 - without the rest of the desk it's pretty useless.
3 - no
4 - shipping early 2020
5 - no

@ Emanuel
- How does the bus routing work? I mean, there's only one bus routing button, and 16 buses? How do you assign these?

Central bus assignment. press the Route button on the channel (or group of channels, or groups of channels) and use the switches in the Bus Master send section. Bit like a Duality. NO need for buttons on every channel - they fail a lot and are hard to reach.

- The center 8 channels / groups .. how do you route audio to these?

8 stereo channels. These could just be 16 inputs for stems from PT or whatever. However the inputs to these channels are exactly below the 16 track bus outputs and we'll provide a short jumper cable with each console. As all the channel have direct outputs you might want to use some or all of the track buses as groups into these stereo channels to use as masters to mix.
@ Stimmt - built and tested here in Oxford, England.
Old 16th October 2019
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$50K (if accurate), is more reasonable than I expected.
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So is this based on UAD E or Waves E?

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My dear Jim,

I know today is just the product launch, but I think it's never too soon to improve things, when they REALISTICALLY CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. With the ORIGIN lacking (due to simplicity and targeted price points) any sort of automation, there's still hope.

Just develop a 3U with the same functionality (circuits) as the group faders, BUT with rotary knobs instead of faders, and put it at at the top. THEN....
Modify/Develop an *8ch NUCLEUS* that fits below VOILA .....

Now the ORIGIN can control any DAWS as well as SIGMAS, bringing also fader automation to the console

I'M SERIOUS. THIS IS 100% DOABLE, ON A LATER DATE.


The image below shows the whole idea. GROUP FADERS at the top, with rotary knobs rather than faders, exact same fucntionality. 8FADER NUCLEUS at the bottom .
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Old 16th October 2019
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While I find possible futures an interesting thing, i’m also focussed on what is actual now.

Hard to tell from internet information how things actually connect inside the console. Nice idea but ORIGIN is an analogue mixer with no DAW control.
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My dear Jim,

I know today is just the product launch, but I think it's never too soon to improve things, when they REALISTICALLY CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. With the ORIGIN lacking (due to simplicity and targeted price points) any sort of automation, there's still hope.

Just develop a 3U with the same functionality (circuits) as the group faders, BUT with rotary knobs instead of faders, and put it at at the top. THEN....
Modify/Develop an *8ch NUCLEUS* that fits below VOILA .....

Now the ORIGIN can control any DAWS as well as SIGMAS, bringing also fader automation to the console

I'M SERIOUS. THIS IS 100% DOABLE, ON A LATER DATE.


The image below shows the whole idea. GROUP FADERS at the top, with rotary knobs rather than faders, exact same fucntionality. 8FADER NUCLEUS at the bottom .
You could easily add automation by dropping 1 or 2 sigmas in the 6 RU of free space in the center section.
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You could easily add automation by dropping 1 or 2 sigmas in the 6 RU of free space in the center section.
Sigma physically too big to fit in the centre and would restrict airflow
Old 16th October 2019
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I was hoping for a more modular approach. Too big for my needs.
Great desk anyway... rock on SSL!
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While I find possible futures an interesting thing, i’m also focussed on what is actual now.

Hard to tell from internet information how things actually connect inside the console. Nice idea but ORIGIN is an analogue mixer with no DAW control.
I understand for sure. My idea is, on the other hand, perfectly doable, JUST by designing a module with the GROUP FADERS with rotary knobs instead, so you can put it a the top. Then place any 3rd party Fader controller at the bottom, for DAW and Sigma control, no need to redesign a 8Fader Nucleus for now.

The ORIGIN is a GREAT product at a GREAT price point, all things considered. With this *simple* mod, it widens up the intended target, as many will want some sort of DAW control, not to mention Fader auto.

Congratulations SSL !!
Old 16th October 2019
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Thanks for taking the time to answer!

Clearly SSL have targeted studios large and small that would be looking at installing a 4k E/G or even a 9k. There are a lot of studios that (even recently) have installed 4K consoles and dealing with the cost of maintaining and powering those. SLEEP mode? Wow, amazing! I'm sure it's surface mount and much, much more efficient and plugs into the wall. No racks of power supplies...

Ideal for a tracking room or for just having a console in front of you for mixing. And definitely will take a lot of the 4K resale market and the business that have the SSL name but don't involve revenue for SSL. If you are just mixing then maybe an AWS or others? If you need automation and recall? You know where to go. For $50k! This is a winner. I can see the studio I work out of now replacing at least two of the older 4K E/G consoles as soon as this is available. Maybe even the 9K?



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1 - as above
2 - without the rest of the desk it's pretty useless.
3 - no
4 - shipping early 2020
5 - no

@ Emanuel
- How does the bus routing work? I mean, there's only one bus routing button, and 16 buses? How do you assign these?

Central bus assignment. press the Route button on the channel (or group of channels, or groups of channels) and use the switches in the Bus Master send section. Bit like a Duality. NO need for buttons on every channel - they fail a lot and are hard to reach.

- The center 8 channels / groups .. how do you route audio to these?

8 stereo channels. These could just be 16 inputs for stems from PT or whatever. However the inputs to these channels are exactly below the 16 track bus outputs and we'll provide a short jumper cable with each console. As all the channel have direct outputs you might want to use some or all of the track buses as groups into these stereo channels to use as masters to mix.
@ Stimmt - built and tested here in Oxford, England.
Old 16th October 2019
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For now just move the Centre section up to the top giving you 6U at the bottom - just the right size for a small 8-fader surface
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This is repulsively incredible. Fills a huge void IMO. Wouldn't be surprised to see this thing everywhere 5 years from now.
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