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Soundtheory Announces Windows Version of Gullfoss
Old 10th October 2019
  #721
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We've heard you. There are many small improvements that we are intending to bring with a major update.

Andreas
Thanks!
Old 4 weeks ago
  #722
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Originally Posted by JulenJVM View Post
And I have listened, and even though I used headphones, I heard what I was expecting. The stereo image is shifted to the left, it feels weird. Sounds like you´re trying to polish a turd with so much processing on the 2-buss, instead of working on the innards of the mix.

Also, you need to grow a thicker skin, I never meant to insult you, I was questionning your methods, that is all (confirmed by that soundcloud file). If all you can do to defend yourself is to use ad-hominem attacks, maybe you simply need to grow.
Thank you for your response. You should word your English better. "Who puts a plugin after the limiter?" sounds pompous and downtrottening. That's what made me respond the way that I did. All you had to do was say. "Based on what other professionals said and tried, they don't recommend putting such a plugin after the limiter"...something to that effect.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #723
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Originally Posted by hammond231 View Post
This horrible CanOpener stuff has totally hijacked this thread. Please stop.

I try to lay low on Gearslutz for the most part. But you're either trolling us or are so bad at this that I feel the need to say something. I'm just gonna say it. you're mixes sound terrible and wouldn't come close to competing in the real world unless you're doing some really esoteric, experimental thing. The phase coherency has been completely annihilated. BTW, when you muted all those plugins towards the end the track sounded a million times better. Do that.

Please let us carry on discussing the merits of Gulfoss and realize you are one of the ones that could benefit from listening and learning here rather than trying to exert some authority like a guru.

In fact, if many of you ever got the chance to sit in with some real mix guys you'd realize they aren't using all this trick stuff. I doubt they've even heard of half of it. Here in Nashville where half the decent sounding recordings in the world are mixed it's mostly stock plugins, Waves, FabFilter, IK and UAD. Behind the times, maybe. But we know how to use what we got.

Gulfoss is really good. Let's talk about that, pretty please with sugar on top.
The latter: you're just behind in the times. Horrible is subjective. Thank you for your time, mate. Cheers. I shouldn't have to let you get on with the conversation. Just ignore me if you feel I'm trolling you.
Old 4 weeks ago
  #724
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Originally Posted by E-Irizarry View Post
Thank you for your response. You should word your English better. "Who puts a plugin after the limiter?" sounds pompous and downtrottening. That's what made me respond the way that I did. All you had to do was say. "Based on what other professionals said and tried, they don't recommend putting such a plugin after the limiter"...something to that effect.
I apologize, sorry if I offended you, it was a clumsy choice of words. Don't hold a grudge on me
Old 3 weeks ago
  #725
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Originally Posted by E-Irizarry View Post
The latter: you're just behind in the times. Horrible is subjective. Thank you for your time, mate. Cheers. I shouldn't have to let you get on with the conversation. Just ignore me if you feel I'm trolling you.
See what you did there, “Mr. Canopener”?

You pretty much killed a decent thread by running off all the folks that wanted to talk about Gulfoss here. And still you keep on keeping on.

Ignorance and arrogance. A winning combination.

Hey, y’all, let’s go back to talking about this cool plugin. I think that using it for metering only a mix-in-progress in the beginning is a great idea!
Old 3 weeks ago
  #726
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I will try to get things back on track. Gullfoss is an excellent tool and really versatile.

For example, setting the high pass filter to about 4Khz and dialling in the tame to about 45%, then the recover and brightness to taste, and I am finding that it is the only de-esser I am using these days as it is so transparent.
It de-harshes those upper frequencies as in general. Very smooth.

I bought an early access license for Windows, and was lucky enough to win an additional license in a competition.
Even though it was a non-transferable license, SoundTheory support were good enough to allow me to transfer the EA license to my friend.

Nothing but good things to say about their product or their company.

PS. Mods/admins should probably clean up this thread of all of the completely off-topic, pointless arguing that has nothing to do with this product.
Old 3 weeks ago
  #727
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For example, setting the high pass filter to about 4Khz and dialling in the tame to about 45%, then the recover and brightness to taste, and I am finding that it is the only de-esser I am using these days as it is so transparent.
It de-harshes those upper frequencies as in general. Very smooth.
I'm guessing you mean setting the upper range limiter to 4K??
Thanks for the tip!
Old 3 weeks ago
  #728
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Sorry for this. We think it's nonsensical, too.

Andreas

Any chance you could let us select a "weak" password??

everyone here has multiple plugin accounts and it's nice to be able to set them all to the same thing. Like with apple I have to reset my password every time I want to log on.
Old 3 weeks ago
  #729
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Any chance you could let us select a "weak" password??

everyone here has multiple plugin accounts and it's nice to be able to set them all to the same thing. Like with apple I have to reset my password every time I want to log on.
Our password strength test checks against a database of passwords that are usually used for brute force attacks. If our system rejects your password, you shouldn't use it. We explicitly don't use arbitrary requirements like others do (minimum length, special characters, numbers, etc). I would personally recommend using passwords that you can remember well but that are also too complex for a brute force attack. Try simple sentences that you can type quickly. Something like "ILikeBeethovenOnSundays". Maybe make it something that you can easily associate with the website you're on. And lastly, please use a password manager and use unique passwords. Identity theft is no joke.

Andreas
Old 3 weeks ago
  #730
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Our password strength test checks against a database of passwords that are usually used for brute force attacks. If our system rejects your password, you shouldn't use it. We explicitly don't use arbitrary requirements like others do (minimum length, special characters, numbers, etc). I would personally recommend using passwords that you can remember well but that are also too complex for a brute force attack. Try simple sentences that you can type quickly. Something like "ILikeBeethovenOnSundays". Maybe make it something that you can easily associate with the website you're on. And lastly, please use a password manager and use unique passwords. Identity theft is no joke.

Andreas
fair enough
Old 2 weeks ago
  #731
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Had a bit of pre-excitement with an Email saying a Gullfoss update.

Downloaded and installed ... looks to be more of a minor, maintenance.

Reading the Docs, I founds some new [or newer] information that I didn't know regarding flipping settings [A/B], numeric entry ... but it does NOT use the Number Pad [only the QWERTY] it seems. hmm that's a drag.

The 'arrow' keys are also suppose to change settings ... but I've not gotten that to work.

Was hoping for some addition from suggestions ...
Old 2 weeks ago
  #732
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any idea if there is a Gullfoss Black Friday sale?
Old 2 weeks ago
  #733
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any idea if there is a Gullfoss Black Friday sale?
Yes, wait for it
Old 2 weeks ago
  #734
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Yes, wait for it
From their Newsletter sent 18 Nov 2019: (keep in mind their transfer policy says discounted licenses are not transferrable)

Get a 30% discount on Gullfoss! Be sure to use the coupon code BF30 in the checkout window to get your discount.

Our Black Friday sale is active from November 28th - December 3rd. Now is the time to get a great deal on Gullfoss. This is our only annual sale, so don’t delay and get your Gullfoss on today!

We highly recommend installing the free trial before purchasing to ensure system compatibility.
Old 1 week ago
  #735
I went ahead and bought Gulfoss OS X at full price today. Couldn't wait for Black Friday sale.

The demo version worked fine; and the retail version opened up and worked once. After that, it is crashing Pro Tools 12 consistently. Just freezes up the app upon instantiation, and I have to force quit.

Very disappointing. Any thoughts?
Old 1 week ago
  #736
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The demo version worked fine; and the retail version opened up and worked once. After that, it is crashing Pro Tools 12 consistently. Just freezes up the app upon instantiation, and I have to force quit.
There are no separate demo and retail versions, and you don't need to install anything after you bought Gullfoss if you had the trial running already. We do however have two different licensing systems that are both (still) available for download. The legacy system is on its way out and we are fading out support for it. And then there's the iLok system, which is actively supported and the more prominent download link on our website.

If you have purchased Gullfoss recently, you need to use the iLok version. Was your trial running on iLok? What did you do after your purchase? Which version did you install and have you activated the license on your iLok using the activation code you have received? Are you running the latest iLok License Manager software from iLok.com?

Also, there is a difference between a crash and a freeze, and for technical support, this difference is very relevant. A crash is the sudden termination of the program, or worse, even the operating system, and usually comes with a crash log that contains information helping to identify the cause of the problem.

A freeze is when you have to quit the application (or force a reboot) because the system does not react anymore. This doesn't come with a crash log, but can sometimes be analyzed using a manually created spin dump. Causes for freezes are plenty. Sometimes it's just a modal window that is in the background or on a different screen or space that you don't see and cannot close. Such a situation will block all interaction with the application that owns the modal window. Such a window can be an activation dialog for example. Hidden dialog boxes are often also caused by screen/window managing software that messes with window placement and visibility.

So for your specific problem, we will need more information. Can you provide some details regarding your setup and what exactly you did when you installed the trial and then switched to what you thought was the retail version?

Andreas
Old 1 week ago
  #737
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Originally Posted by atell View Post
There are no separate demo and retail versions, and you don't need to install anything after you bought Gullfoss if you had the trial running already. We do however have two different licensing systems that are both (still) available for download. The legacy system is on its way out and we are fading out support for it. And then there's the iLok system, which is actively supported and the more prominent download link on our website.

If you have purchased Gullfoss recently, you need to use the iLok version. Was your trial running on iLok? What did you do after your purchase? Which version did you install and have you activated the license on your iLok using the activation code you have received? Are you running the latest iLok License Manager software from iLok.com?

Also, there is a difference between a crash and a freeze, and for technical support, this difference is very relevant. A crash is the sudden termination of the program, or worse, even the operating system, and usually comes with a crash log that contains information helping to identify the cause of the problem.

A freeze is when you have to quit the application (or force a reboot) because the system does not react anymore. This doesn't come with a crash log, but can sometimes be analyzed using a manually created spin dump. Causes for freezes are plenty. Sometimes it's just a modal window that is in the background or on a different screen or space that you don't see and cannot close. Such a situation will block all interaction with the application that owns the modal window. Such a window can be an activation dialog for example. Hidden dialog boxes are often also caused by screen/window managing software that messes with window placement and visibility.

So for your specific problem, we will need more information. Can you provide some details regarding your setup and what exactly you did when you installed the trial and then switched to what you thought was the retail version?

Andreas
Hi Andreas,

I moved this over to a support email. But since I opened this up on here on GS...

I am having freezes. And it's happening on all PT sessions. When I add Gulfoss as a plugin, it opens and shows signal going through it. But when I try to adjust the Recover and Tame settings they do not respond. I then cannot close the Gulfoss window, start or stop playback, or switch to another window within Pro Tools. I have to Force Quit.

It worked once after retail purchase, then now this response every time. I had the iLok version of the demo; and I installed the iLok version of the retail.

Pro Tools 12.8.3
OSX 10.12.6

I can test later in Logic, as well... but I am on a mix deadline session all day today.


Thx,
Rob

UPDATE: It is related to my 2nd monitor. If I'm on my laptop (which I am currently) Gulfoss works fine on the native screen. If I move it to the secondary Samsung monitor, it causes PT to freeze up. Moving the Gulfoss window back to the native screen does not fix the issue; I still have to Force Quit.

Last edited by robshrock; 1 week ago at 07:01 PM.. Reason: update
Old 1 week ago
  #738
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UPDATE: It is related to my 2nd monitor. If I'm on my laptop (which I am currently) Gulfoss works fine on the native screen. If I move it to the secondary Samsung monitor, it causes PT to freeze up. Moving the Gulfoss window back to the native screen does not fix the issue; I still have to Force Quit.
Ok, that's certainly very valuable information. So I assume that this has nothing to do with trial vs full activation and that in both cases you were running Gullfoss 1.4.0 or 1.4.1.

How does your Samsung screen connect to your Mac? Is it on the same GPU as the main screen? Or is it maybe attached over USB? Is one of your screens or both of them running at retina resolution? Anything special about your screen setup at all?

We've not seen any such issue before, and it's not really plausible to me unless there is something very uncommon about your setup. Gullfoss does have certain OpenGL requirements. But normally if one screen is adequate, the other should be, too.

Andreas
Old 1 week ago
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Ok, that's certainly very valuable information. So I assume that this has nothing to do with trial vs full activation and that in both cases you were running Gullfoss 1.4.0 or 1.4.1.

How does your Samsung screen connect to your Mac? Is it on the same GPU as the main screen? Or is it maybe attached over USB? Is one of your screens or both of them running at retina resolution? Anything special about your screen setup at all?

We've not seen any such issue before, and it's not really plausible to me unless there is something very uncommon about your setup. Gullfoss does have certain OpenGL requirements. But normally if one screen is adequate, the other should be, too.

Andreas
You're a very smart man.

I am on my mobile rig; so the 2nd monitor is connected USB via a J5Create USB-to-HDMI adapter. Logic and Pro Tools windows work fine with this setup, as do most plugins; although a number of plugins graphically either glitch or distort... but none of them cause the computer to freeze up. I just move them over to the main window and they work fine. Gulfoss doesn't graphically distort--it looks fine--it just freezes up everything. That's the first plugin I've had that responds this way.

So, yes; there is no connection at all between the demo and retail versions acting differently. When I demoed Gulfoss a few months ago (with your help) while mixing that Marshall Tucker live record, I was on my desktop tower rig. Same Samsung 2nd monitor; but connected via a PCI graphics card DV-to-HDMI.

Hope that is helpful.

Rob
Old 1 week ago
  #740
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I am on my mobile rig; so the 2nd monitor is connected USB via a J5Create USB-to-HDMI adapter.
If you could tell me the brand and model of the USB adapter, I could try and get hold of it, run some tests and hopefully come up with a solution for the freeze.

Also, what is the exact model of your laptop? Maybe there is a better (and compatible way) to attach an HDMI screen to it.

Andreas
Old 1 week ago
  #741
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If you could tell me the brand and model of the USB adapter, I could try and get hold of it, run some tests and hopefully come up with a solution for the freeze.

Also, what is the exact model of your laptop? Maybe there is a better (and compatible way) to attach an HDMI screen to it.

Andreas
JCreate JUA254 USB/HDMI adapter

2012 MB Pro
Thunderbolt is tied up with UA interface and satellite. FW800 not it use; but I'm upgrading laptops very soon... just trying to suss out the Catalina issues beforehand.

Thx
Rob
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