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Old 7th August 2018
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Genelec Unveils New High-SPL Smart Active Monitors

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Genelec Unveils New High-SPL Smart Active Monitors

Continuing to reflect its goal of offering monitoring solutions for all room sizes and applications, Genelec announces the global launch of two new high-SPL Smart Active Monitors™ – the two-way S360A, and the 7382A subwoofer.

Both models are ideal for any professional application that demands high acoustic power or listening at a distance – from large immersive setups in post-production studios or film mixing stages to play-live monitoring in music production, EDM playback or premium home theaters.

Housed in a compact enclosure featuring high-quality Finnish woodwork and extremely low and controlled diffraction, the S360 also features a further enhanced 10-inch high-efficiency and minimal distortion woofer based on Genelec’s Master Series, and a completely integrated extended directivity control waveguide DCW™, supporting its 1.7-inch titanium diaphragm compression tweeter. The result combines the neutrality for which Genelec is known, with a short-term SPL capability of 118 dB – with peaks even higher – and a long throw capability that can provide reference-quality accuracy even at listening distances of over 33 feet (10 meters). The S360 offers the benefits of main monitor performance in a condensed form factor, including excellent on-axis characteristics and uncolored 95-degree (h) to 75-degree (v) dispersion.

The S360 enclosure offers versatile in-wall and on-wall mounting options, while down-firing, flow-optimized laminar integrated reflex ports Laminar Integrated Port (LIP™) ensure tight and noise-free bass output and are also perfectly suited for use with perforated screens. Alternatively, when the S360 is used in free-standing mode, the innovative Iso-Plate™ effectively decouples the monitor from its base, focusing low-frequency output while preventing vibration transfer and air turbulence. Further flexibility comes courtesy of the system electronics, which can be either integrated into the enclosure or positioned remotely.

Knowing that the production of good content depends on monitors being correctly positioned, level-aligned, time-aligned and room-compensated, the S360 offers full integration with Genelec’s GLM software, allowing the configuration, calibration and monitor control of more than 40 channels without the need for external processing.

The ideal companion for both the S360 and Genelec’s other large-format monitors is the 7382 Smart Active Subwoofer – Genelec’s most powerful subwoofer to date. Delivering precise, powerful low frequency extension down to 15 Hz, the 7382 houses three custom-designed 15-inch long-throw woofers. Each benefits from the vibration-free environment of a heavily braced fiberboard enclosure, with laminar flow bass reflex porting extending along the entire rear wall to ensure low distortion and compression-free performance, even when the 7382 delivers outputs in excess of 130 dB SPL.

Drawing on integrated processing and decades of research, the 7382 also works with GLM software to control bass management and solve issues of subwoofer placement in unpredictable rooms, and even to build entire arrays of Genelec subwoofers.

“With the launch of the S360 and 7382, we now have an extended comprehensive range of monitors and subwoofers for all room sizes, SPL requirements and listening distances,” commented Genelec Managing Director Siamäk Naghian.

“Besides their compatibility with all types of high-SPL music applications, we see the S360 and 7382 finding their place in larger Immersive Audio systems, where the listener by definition needs to find themselves utterly immersed in the experience, aware of every detail. That same precision is at the heart of every Genelec monitor. It is why we believe so deeply in the growth of these exciting new multichannel formats, and why we have produced the S360 and 7382: to realize that immersive potential like never before.”

The arrival of the S360 and 7382 coincides with the publication of a new set of educational tools aimed at helping professionals to better understand and make use of Immersive Audio. Titled Genelec Immersive Solutions, the publication will include a comprehensive overview of the requirements for creating an effective immersive audio setup, including insights into the most commonly adopted formats and the Genelec solutions required to make the most of them. Due to launch alongside the S360 and 7382, the publication will also be available for download from Immersive Audio | Genelec.com.

The Genelec S360 Smart Active Monitor and 7382 Smart Active Subwoofer will have U.S. pricing as follows:
S360: $4595.00
7382: $11,995.00

For more information visit: World Leader in Studio Monitors | Genelec.com.
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Old 7th August 2018
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More photos attached.

Genelec S360 and 7382 product brochures.

Genelec Immersive Audio brochure.

S360 SAM™ Studio Monitor product page: S360 SAM™ Studio Monitor | Genelec.com

7382 SAM™ Studio Subwoofer product page: 7382 SAM™ Studio Subwoofer | Genelec.com
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Old 7th August 2018
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The 7382a reminds us of the 7073a, right?

7073A Studio Subwoofer | Genelec.com

Which was a very competent performer, as this test and review by Keith Yates (About Us - Keith Yates Design) from 2004 demonstrated:

Way Down Deep I Genelec HTS6 | Sound & Vision

Are there any notable design differences between 7073a and 7382a, apart from obvious 4x12 vs 3x15 inches?

So the biggest surprise of the day, deviation from most of the existing Genelec portfolio of products, seems to be the S360.

So I wondered: Is the choice of compression driver, horn, solely due to higher SPL potential?

And the S360 amplifier is external, isn’t it? Why is that? Is it a design (science based) choice or a market oriented choice?

For music purposes, some prefer a bit more distance to monitors than extreme nearfield and would like to have ample headroom to ensure dynamics aren’t limited due to distortion byproducts at higher SPL. Combined with the 7382, the S360 could make a full range system, powered by a 10 inch woofer for the midrange. What would be the trade-off (apart from the 2-way S360 not being point source, thus having a smaller sweet spot) for high-precision stereo music purposes using 2xS360 + 1x7382a vs say 2x8351a + 1x738xa (where x is 0 or 2). The price is about the same...and the mid range drivers of the 8351 is dwarfed by the S360 10 incher...

Old 8th August 2018
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The 7382a reminds us of the 7073a, right?

7073A Studio Subwoofer | Genelec.com

Which was a very competent performer, as this test and review by Keith Yates (About Us - Keith Yates Design) from 2004 demonstrated:

Way Down Deep I Genelec HTS6 | Sound & Vision

Are there any notable design differences between 7073a and 7382a, apart from obvious 4x12 vs 3x15 inches?
Hi and thank you for your questions. 7382A is a successor to the late 7073A, and although they look relatively similar, they do not have much in common. 7382A has larger internal volume as well as larger reflex port cross-sectional area. It has 15 Hz LF extension compared to 19 Hz. Maximum SPL has been increased from 124 dB to 129 dB, equaling almost two 7073A units. Internal bracing of the cabinet has been improved for less structural vibrations and more accurate sound quality. Also amplifier is completely different, now 3U high remote amplifier module RAM-SW which contains a 2500W power amplifier and high-performance DSP for more accurate and advanced room calibration via GLM, protection and anti-clip functions. 7382A supports both analogue and AES/EBU digital signals.

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So the biggest surprise of the day, deviation from most of the existing Genelec portfolio of products, seems to be the S360.

So I wondered: Is the choice of compression driver, horn, solely due to higher SPL potential?
Not only high SPL but also for example low crossover frequency. It is also a better match with the much deeper and larger extended directivity control waveguide (DCW). Combination of these provide higher directivity for more direct sound at the listening spot i.e. less room reflections, and support for larger listening distances.

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And the S360 amplifier is external, isn’t it? Why is that? Is it a design (science based) choice or a market oriented choice?
S360 amplifer is normally integrated to the back of the enclosure but it can also be remotely mounted via optional amplifier mounting kit (2U high).

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For music purposes, some prefer a bit more distance to monitors than extreme nearfield and would like to have ample headroom to ensure dynamics aren’t limited due to distortion byproducts at higher SPL. Combined with the 7382, the S360 could make a full range system, powered by a 10 inch woofer for the midrange. What would be the trade-off (apart from the 2-way S360 not being point source, thus having a smaller sweet spot) for high-precision stereo music purposes using 2xS360 + 1x7382a vs say 2x8351a + 1x738xa (where x is 0 or 2). The price is about the same...and the mid range drivers of the 8351 is dwarfed by the S360 10 incher...

This is mostly subjective so I think you have to go out and have a listening demo yourself to figure out that one. I don't want to spoil you with my personal comments. You can also use 7380A (or two of them) with the S360 if extremely high SPL is not required.

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Old 8th August 2018
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so these destroy the jbl 6332 then. Just need to get my other company to agree to upgrade my bigger studios front wall.

I think the price is very competitive. What we need are large format rear speakers that dont kill the budgets- something like the jbl 9350 that scales down. The issue with genelec in a big room is dropping a mortgage on the rears and I dont know how to break that nut. Small rooms like mine can use the 8330 and its great as an immersive speaker.
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Gonna have to sell an ostrich-skin jacket or two
and get some serious speakers.
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Hi and thank you for your questions. 7382A is a successor to the late 7073A, and although they look relatively similar, they do not have much in common. 7382A has larger internal volume as well as larger reflex port cross-sectional area. It has 15 Hz LF extension compared to 19 Hz. Maximum SPL has been increased from 124 dB to 129 dB, equaling almost two 7073A units. Internal bracing of the cabinet has been improved for less structural vibrations and more accurate sound quality. Also amplifier is completely different, now 3U high remote amplifier module RAM-SW which contains a 2500W power amplifier and high-performance DSP for more accurate and advanced room calibration via GLM, protection and anti-clip functions. 7382A supports both analogue and AES/EBU digital signals.


Not only high SPL but also for example low crossover frequency. It is also a better match with the much deeper and larger extended directivity control waveguide (DCW). Combination of these provide higher directivity for more direct sound at the listening spot i.e. less room reflections, and support for larger listening distances.


S360 amplifer is normally integrated to the back of the enclosure but it can also be remotely mounted via optional amplifier mounting kit (2U high).


This is mostly subjective so I think you have to go out and have a listening demo yourself to figure out that one. I don't want to spoil you with my personal comments. You can also use 7380A (or two of them) with the S360 if extremely high SPL is not required.
@ Ilkka , on the new subwoofer 7382, you wrote that its maximum «SPL has been increased from 124 dB to 129 dB, equaling almost two 7073 units».

In other words, «small size, big sound», to borrow a phrase from another place
Old 13th August 2018
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S360 a 2 way??
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S360 a 2 way??
Genelec Unveils New High-SPL Smart Active Monitors

Continuing to reflect its goal of offering monitoring solutions for all room sizes and applications, Genelec announces the global launch of two new high-SPL Smart Active Monitors™ – the two-way S360A, and the 7382A subwoofer.
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Genelec Unveils New High-SPL Smart Active Monitors

Continuing to reflect its goal of offering monitoring solutions for all room sizes and applications, Genelec announces the global launch of two new high-SPL Smart Active Monitors™ – the two-way S360A, and the 7382A subwoofer.
Got it. So does this trump the 83XX range then?
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Got it. So does this trump the 83XX range then?
Thank you for your question. They are not really competing with each other. They are tools for different purposes. If you listen at moderate levels at near field and require the sound characteristics of a three-way coaxial design, you should go for the Ones (8331, 8341, 8351). If you listen at moderate to very high SPL at mid or far field and require the sound characteristics of a two-way featuring high-efficiency 10 inch woofer combined with a compression driver with extended/increased directivity and low crossover frequency, you should go for the S360.
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Old 27th November 2018
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Genelec S360 operating manual: https://www.genelec.com/sites/defaul...ing_manual.pdf

Genelec 7382 operating manual: https://www.genelec.com/sites/defaul...7382_opman.pdf

Both include full specifications and detailed measurement data.
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@ Ilkka ,

As you probably know, there’s a new interesting video out on your S360 monitor and 7382 subwoofer.

YouTube

The interview with Jussi Väisäinen is interesting (see from about 7 minutes in the video clip).

Jussi explains that this has been a joint effort with a supplier. And the box design is different than the Genelec spiral design.

So I wondered if you could elaborate on the joint work with the supplier of 15 inch drivers and the new “square” design as opposed to your spiral design.

Jussi also talks about the low distortion of the 7382. Maybe you could elaborate on the distortion of the 7382 versus the 7380?

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Jussi explains that this has been a joint effort with a supplier. And the box design is different than the Genelec spiral design.

So I wondered if you could elaborate on the joint work with the supplier of 15 inch drivers and the new “square” design as opposed to your spiral design.
Hi there,

Thank you for your questions. Unfortunately there is not much I can share about the joint work with our supplier. It is a normal procedure that we custom design the drivers used in our loudspeakers to have the exact features and performance we want for each design.

7382 box design is not new per say, it is similar to its predecessor 7073 or HTS6 subwoofer. The LSE design is not really an option anymore when you need to have a long cabinet shape which houses several drivers. A more traditional box design is then called for. But when it comes to the design principles of the reflex port, they are more similar than apart. Both feature extremely large cross sectional area with large radiuses at both ends to ensure "silent" operation even at very high SPL. Helmholtz frequency for both models is <20 Hz which results in typical in-room frequency response extension down to ~15 Hz or lower.

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Jussi also talks about the low distortion of the 7382. Maybe you could elaborate on the distortion of the 7382 versus the 7380?

Distortion behaviour is very similar between 7380 and 7382 as they share the same woofer, only difference being that the 7382 can play approximately 9 dB louder. Harmonic distortion measurement graphs are presented in each model's operating manual.
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Hi there,

Thank you for your questions. Unfortunately there is not much I can share about the joint work with our supplier. It is a normal procedure that we custom design the drivers used in our loudspeakers to have the exact features and performance we want for each design.

7382 box design is not new per say, it is similar to its predecessor 7073 or HTS6 subwoofer. The LSE design is not really an option anymore when you need to have a long cabinet shape which houses several drivers. A more traditional box design is then called for. But when it comes to the design principles of the reflex port, they are more similar than apart. Both feature extremely large cross sectional area with large radiuses at both ends to ensure "silent" operation even at very high SPL. Helmholtz frequency for both models is <20 Hz which results in typical in-room frequency response extension down to ~15 Hz or lower.


Distortion behaviour is very similar between 7380 and 7382 as they share the same woofer, only difference being that the 7382 can play approximately 9 dB louder. Harmonic distortion measurement graphs are presented in each model's operating manual.
@ Ilkka , 7380 doesn't state group delay in the manual. Is it the exact same as for 7382?
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@ Ilkka , 7380 doesn't state group delay in the manual. Is it the exact same as for 7382?
It is not exactly same, but very similar.
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It is not exactly same, but very similar.
Thanks! You recently contributed to some focus on this:

AES E-Library >> Audibility of Loudspeaker Group-Delay Characteristics

«Our results suggest that when the group delay in the frequency range from 300 Hz to 1 kHz is below 1.0 ms, it is inaudible. With low-frequency emphasis the group delay variations can be heard more easily».

1 ms is pretty low...

However:

«It is seen that the group delay can exceed 10 ms below 200Hz when compared to the group delay at high frequencies without the difference being audible».
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Hi,

Please notice that the study examined only full range loudspeakers, there is nothing related to subwoofers. The conclusion about group delay exceeding 10 ms below 200Hz when compared to the group delay at high frequencies without the difference being audible, is a strong indication that we should not be that concerned about group delay at low frequencies. If you look at the measured graph we provide, you can see that both 7380 and 7382 have less than 10 ms group delay down to 30 Hz, and only little bit more when closing the low frequency corner of the unit. Although many people are concerned about the GD figure, compare the (simulation) graphs between sealed and vented subwoofers, at the same time don't realize or admit the fact that in 99.9% of the cases it is the listening space that needs much longer time to wake up and decay at those frequencies, compared to the rather "fast" subwoofer.
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Comprehensive report from Sound on Sound on S360, and 7382 subwoofer:

Genelec S360 |
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Highly interesting S360 review by German Sound & Recording. Full of objective measurements and interesting listening tests by trained listeners.

Translated version: https://translate.google.fi/translat...tor-im-test%2F

Original: https://www.soundandrecording.de/equ...nitor-im-test/


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«Was die Messergebnisse schon andeuteten, bestätigt der Hörtest. Dieser Monitor ist eine »Wucht« und das in jeglicher Hinsicht. Die Wiedergabe ist hoch dynamisch, sodass man bei dem einen oder anderen Titel bemerkt, was einem sonst vorenthalten wird. Trotzdem bleibt es bei der von den anderen Genelec Monitoren bekannten Neutralität und Verfärbungsfreiheit».

TRANSLATION:
«What the measurements already indicated, confirms the hearing test. This monitor is a »force« and in every way. The playback is highly dynamic, so you notice on one or the other title, what is otherwise withheld. Nevertheless, it remains true to other Genelec monitors in neutrality and discoloration.».
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A few days to vote for the S360!

Thank you!

https://www.genelec.com/genelec-s360...rd-please-vote
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