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Old 2nd February 2018
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Software TBProAudio: FinalLoud - Loudness and True Peak Finalizer Plugin for Windows and Mac
TBProAudio announces FinalLoud, a tool that helps to reach the target volume of any audio material while maintaining given True Peak values.



FinalLoud offers following features:
  • 4 measurement methods: EBU IL/SL Max, RMS IL/SL Max
  • Adjustable reference level
  • Adjustable True Peak ceiling level
  • Loudness measurement based on EBU R128-2014
  • True Peak measurement based on ITU BS.1770-4
  • Automatic sync of measurement with DAW start/stop
  • Preset management
  • Many useful presets
  • Large and easy to use GUI
  • 64-bit internal processing

System Requirements:
  • Windows XP or newer
  • Mac OS X 10.5 or newer
  • Win: 32/64 Bit VST, 32/64 Bit VST3, 32 Bit RTAS, 32/64 Bit AAX
  • OS X: 32/64 Bit VST, 32/64 Bit VST3, 32/64 Bit AU, 32 Bit RTAS, 32/64 Bit AAX
  • Tested with: Cockos Reaper, Steinberg Cubase/Nuendo/Wavelab 6/7/8/9.5, FL Studio 12, ProTools 10/12, Logic Pro X

Demo version available

Price: 29€
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Old 5th February 2018
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Update 1.0.1:
- New: Mono processing
- New: In place render support (Match mode relative/absolute)
- VST3: Support WaveLab offline render
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Old 7th February 2018
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Hi,
How it works exactly? Is it like a limiter??
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Old 7th February 2018
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Hi,
How it works exactly? Is it like a limiter??
Yes. You could use it as a simple True Peak limiter (with input gain and TP ceiling).

But FinalLoud is more: it brings the current loudness level to a certain target level (by gain matching) while maintaining the specified True Peak ceiling.

Most of the plug-ins can do only one part out of the two:
1) Limiting: maintain a certain TP ceiling, but loudness level is hard to control
or
2) Loudness Leveler: leveling to a defined loudness level, but TP ceiling is out of control.
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Old 7th February 2018
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I don't understand the "gain matching".... Matching the gain of what?? This plugin is not designed to finalize the master of a track you made??
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Old 7th February 2018
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No video tutorial or manual?
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Old 7th February 2018
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I don't understand the "gain matching".... Matching the gain of what??
As said before FinalLoud is a simple limiter with input gain (control) and TP ceiling.
If you change the input gain the overall loudness of your signal will change.
Lets says you track has IL of -19.2LUFS. If you change the input gain to +4LU IL will be -15.2LUFS, right?
The match button helps you to calculate the required gain to reach e.g. -14LUFS.
In our example match will calculate 19.2-14.0 => 5.2.
So this simple gain matching. And the TP limiter of FinalLoud ensures that the TP level does not exceed the TP ceiling.

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This plugin is not designed to finalize the master of a track you made??
Well, yes :-)
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Old 7th February 2018
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No video tutorial or manual?
Video is under preparation, manual can be found here
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Old 7th February 2018
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What is IL??

I really hope you will make great video tutorial to explain everythinh with all the basis for the newbies!!!!
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Old 7th February 2018
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uuhuuu nice!
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Old 7th February 2018
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What is IL??

I really hope you will make great video tutorial to explain everythinh with all the basis for the newbies!!!!
IL stands for Integrated Loudness (EBU R128), explained in the manual
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Old 7th February 2018
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OK but this plugin is designed to obtain a loudness for different streaming platform or something like that?
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OK but this plugin is designed to obtain a loudness for different streaming platform or something like that?
Yes, this is one use case.
E.g. people use FinalLoud to polish their audio files for Amazon Alexa (-14LUFS, -2dBTP).
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Old 7th February 2018
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OK! Don't need that finally! Izotope can do the job for me... Like LoudMax plugin too!!
Thank you!
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Old 8th February 2018
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OK! Don't need that finally! Izotope can do the job for me... Like LoudMax plugin too!!
Thank you!
Well, If you are just looking for a Limiter, there is not much to add.
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Old 10th February 2018
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anyone tried this yet?
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Old 12th February 2018
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Yes, this is one use case.
E.g. people use FinalLoud to polish their audio files for Amazon Alexa (-14LUFS, -2dBTP).
my god! really? Amazon need -2db true peaks? sheesh...
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Old 12th February 2018
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my god! really? Amazon need -2db true peaks? sheesh...
Yes, see here
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Old 12th February 2018
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Just purchased!!Great plugin .Just one question.If i want a cd master slamed to lets say -8 rms then after all the procedures in mastering eq compression etc well,all i have to do is to target -8 rms and forget it?Thanx and congrts for a superb plugin.
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Old 13th February 2018
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Just purchased!!Great plugin .Just one question.If i want a cd master slamed to lets say -8 rms then after all the procedures in mastering eq compression etc well,all i have to do is to target -8 rms and forget it?Thanx and congrts for a superb plugin.
Thank you.
Yes, set target to -8, method to RMS IL, True Peak to -0.1.
You may render and match the gain (match target) several times (relative mode).
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Old 13th February 2018
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Thank you.
Yes, set target to -8, method to RMS IL, True Peak to -0.1.
You may render and match the gain (match target) several times (relative mode).
Don't understand about match the gain several times.Can you clarify me please?
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Don't understand about match the gain several times.Can you clarify me please?
Well, if your mix has already hit your TP ceiling, more gain than just the difference between current and target loudness is required to reach the target loudness.

But "Match target" just calculates the pure gain difference between current and target loudness...
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Old 17th February 2018
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No video tutorial or manual?
Video just released, available on our web site.
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Old 20th February 2018
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Would this be suitable putting after another limiter to catch true peaks - as a safety measure? How transparent would it be in that scenario? (let's say -0.3db ceiling after Limitless or Elevate also at -0.3db, no input gain so no extra limiting and volume added, just anything above -0.3).

Is it completely alias free? Oversampled?
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Old 20th February 2018
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Hi TBProAudio, does it support multi-channel/surround? How would you describe any advantages of FinalLoud compared to Waves WLM+? Thank you.
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Old 20th February 2018
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Would this be suitable putting after another limiter to catch true peaks - as a safety measure? How transparent would it be in that scenario? (let's say -0.3db ceiling after Limitless or Elevate also at -0.3db, no input gain so no extra limiting and volume added, just anything above -0.3).

Is it completely alias free? Oversampled?
You could do this, but what is the idea behind?. At least Limitless seems to support TP limiting...

FinalLoud uses the TP limiter from LAxLimit. TP Limiting as such is not completely alias free, but FinalLoud/LAxLimit uses a low alias design. FinalLoud does not use additional OS.
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Hi TBProAudio, does it support multi-channel/surround? How would you describe any advantages of FinalLoud compared to Waves WLM+? Thank you.
FinalLoud does (not yet) support multi channel, only 1.0 and 2.0.
I´m not an expert of WLM+, but it seems that both could do the same:
Matching target loudness while respecting TP ceiling
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Old 22nd March 2018
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so this is like

and izotope final mix (discontinued)

or izotope RX loudness control (349 USD) but at a tenth the cost?

is there anything missing?
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Old 22nd March 2018
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so this is like

and izotope final mix (discontinued)

or izotope RX loudness control (349 USD) but at a tenth the cost?

is there anything missing?
Hmm, it seems that iZotope supports only AAX/RTAS. FinalLoud supports VST2/VST3/AU/RTAS/AAX x32/x64.

Otherwise iZotope seems to be similar to Finalloud.

Please get more information and demo here: Professional Audio Tools
Last edited by TBProAudio; 22nd March 2018 at 05:46 PM.. Reason: Typo
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Old 22nd March 2018
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FinalLoud is a great tool!!Real hot stuff!!
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