Originally Posted by sircuit

Definitely needs a sidechain option.
On sparse passages where only the kick, some high hats and a pad are present, the pad (especially) pumps to the rhythm of the kick even at conservative 30% tame. I could positively exploit this unwanted behavior if a sidechain option would be available.

Originally Posted by sircuit

Definitely needs a sidechain option.
On sparse passages where only the kick, some high hats and a pad are present, the pad (especially) pumps to the rhythm of the kick even at conservative 30% tame. I could positively exploit this unwanted behavior if a sidechain option would be available.

Originally Posted by sircuit

On sparse passages where only the kick, some high hats and a pad are present, the pad (especially) pumps to the rhythm of the kick even at conservative 30% tame.

Originally Posted by atell

We're working on a solution for the providing a side chain input, or something equivalent.

Originally Posted by atell

If Gullfoss starts "pumping" it's because the loudness compensation is working too hard. In other words, your kick was so loud that taming it down required the pad (and other elements of your mix) to be boosted to make up for the perceived loudness loss.

You can either make your kick quieter before applying Gullfoss or use the Bias parameter to adjust the response to the kick. A positive value for Bias will likely reduce the bouncing effect and a negative value will emphasize it. You can also use the Boost parameter to change the relative loudness perception in the low end, which will affect the pumping as well.

So even if the bouncing effect is unwanted as you say, it's there by design and necessary to make Gullfoss work the way it does. Using different parameters and understanding what is going on usually helps to get to a place that's more to your liking.

Andreas

Originally Posted by sircuit

Definitely needs a sidechain option.
On sparse passages where only the kick, some high hats and a pad are present, the pad (especially) pumps to the rhythm of the kick even at conservative 30% tame. I could positively exploit this unwanted behavior if a sidechain option would be available.

Originally Posted by bmanic

I really love this thing too. Have been exploring the extremes a lot, using two instances of Gullfoss instead of doing it all in one instance.

For instance, the 'Tame' control does it's thing very differently depending on the bias control. If you set bias to 100% and then use tame, you get very tight compression like frequency riding/fixing. However if you set it to -100% you get a really open, kind of slow and pillowy, almost expanded yet controlled sound.

Thus if you are in a hurry and need to absolutely nail a bass guitar or synth in place, without resorting to a lot of manual EQ + compression, you simply insert gullfoss on the bass, set bias to 100% and 'tame' to something like 50 or more. Then dial in the crossovers to the problem area. Boom.. instant awesomely controlled bass at any note range.

The 'recover' control works exactly opposite. If you set bias to -100% you get highly aggressive, almost upwards expansion like recovery of various frequencies.. thus sort of increasing the dynamic range perception on the material. Whereas at 100% you get the opposite.. pillowy and slow upwards expansion of various low level frequencies.

Gullfoss also tends to want to boost really high frequency stuff, like noise.. in the upper 15kHz to 22kHz range. I usually mitigate this with either the crossover thing or by setting brightness to around -30 or -40. In general I find Gullfoss to go for a quite bright sound, which is not always desirable.

Originally Posted by bmanic

I can easily go between 10 and 50 on the master.. but it is COMPLETELY depending on the BIAS control and how wide or narrow the range I want to cover is (and of course program material too). Bias also seems to work a bit opposite depending on which main control you use (tame or recover).

This is what I wrote on KvR (might not actually be how Gullfoss works but it's how I HEAR it working. So take it as such information. ):

Originally Posted by Hardtoe

I’ve never really dig into the bias control anyone got any insights?

Originally Posted by Hardtoe

I’ve never really dig into the bias control anyone got any insights?

Originally Posted by Mr. Boom

Is the mix too resonant? Bias towards tame. Is the mix too lifeless? Bias towards recover.

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by RJHollins

Using Gullfoss in Mastering, I'm often at settings of 1-3 for Recover, Tame.

Originally Posted by bmanic

Just try it. Set Tame or Recover (learn one control at a time) to something silly like 100%.. then listen to the difference with Bias set to 100 or -100.

Note that I think Tame and Recover are probably interactive, so learning exactly what they do individually may not give the same results as when they are combined.

.. maybe somebody from Soundtheory can give us some more details on this subject?

Originally Posted by Eric Stravinsky

Wow that's super subtle.

Originally Posted by RJHollins

Subtle as the settings suggest, Gullfoss usually follows my last EQ in the Mastering chain. Those small settings can refine the details/separation ever so slightly .... and nice .... Or I don't need to use it. Depends.

Additionally, I've been experimenting using Gullfoss for D-ess'ing the Master. [or other hi-freq issues]

I've several tools for that purpose, but sometimes Gullfoss can do the job better.

Originally Posted by Eric Stravinsky

So you are using Gullfoss after compression. Am I right?

Originally Posted by MrChick

I’d like to zoom in the graphics to see +-6db or even +-3db. The +-24db has no sense.

Originally Posted by explorer

+1

I’m quite keen on using the plugin for working out how to improve my mix balance (rather than just processing with it), so better metering would be really useful for this.

Would also be nice to have bigger/clearer meters showing enhance activity etc.