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Antelope Audio announces DISCRETE 8 interface and accompanying modelling mics
Old 2nd October 2017
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Antelope Audio announces DISCRETE 8 interface and accompanying modelling mics

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Antelope Audio announces DISCRETE 8 console-grade mic preamp interface and accompanying modelling mics

High-end professional audio equipment manufacturer Antelope Audio is proud to announce (upcoming) availability of its DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps plus accompanying EDGE and VERGE modelling microphones — also available as various bundles bringing a new level of sound quality and power to home studios and mobile recordists alongside a true cutting-edge front end that will usher in a new era for modern recording.

Antelope Audio’s DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps comes complete with eight console-grade, six-transistor, fully-discrete design preamps; 121 dB dynamic range conversion; and rock-solid clocking. It includes all Antelope Audio’s premier realtime FPGA FX, including authentic models of iconic gear from BAE, Gyraf Audio, LANG, and many more besides. Being based on Antelope Audio’s AFX platform — a rapidly expanding hardware modelling engine — enables DISCRETE 8 to add Accusonic microphone and preamp models (maintaining the advantages of digital control and repeatability of gain levels), guitar amps, transformer and tube effects alongside a huge selection of classic vintage gear to its recording roster. Thanks to Antelope Audio’s all-new ConnectAFX plug-in, all are accessible via any DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) with workflow that just… well, works!

When working, DISCRETE 8 users can create custom presets to easily and speedily set up various tracking scenarios. The front panel features a large monitor volume knob and dedicated HP knobs for each output. On top of that, the talkback microphone is also built into the front panel right above the TBK (talkback) button. Better still, talkback can be engaged via the assignable FOOTSWITCH on the rear, in the EasyPanel software, or via the iOS/Android app. Meanwhile, metering is viewable on the front panel display, inside the EasyPanel, and also via the remote app.

As a 26-input/32-output audio interface with eight analogue inputs (A1 through to A8), eight analogue outputs (on a standard 25-pin D-SUB connector), a pair of MONITOR outputs, two REAMP outputs, and a pair of headphone outputs, with additional digital connectivity courtesy of S/PDIF IN and OUT alongside dual ADAT I/O, DISCRETE 8 was developed after extensive research of legendary microphone preamp circuitry. Console-grade, fully-discrete preamps were hand-designed to offer world-class sound, and Antelope Audio’s powerful FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array) engine can transform those already expensive-sounding Accusonic preamps into several classic units via tube-, transformer-, and FET-based circuitry… and all in realtime!

Reality dictates, therefore, that both engineers and performers alike can instantly hear the authentic blends of 10 different mic preamps — without any latency or annoying comb filtering. Fortunately, the microphone source can be recorded with or without Accusonic modelling, allowing engineers to choose between preamp models during mixing. Moreover, the entire signal path was designed for optimal sound with any microphone, yet really shines when working with Antelope Audio’s new EDGE and VERGE modelling microphones, which were both specially designed for DISCRETE 8’s preamps, featuring matching discrete electronics.

EDGE and VERGE are both ideally suited, then, to Antelope Audio’s realtime mic preamp modelling. Creatively combined with the company’s already-acclaimed FPGA vintage hardware-based effects encompassing ever-expanding compressors and EQs, these new modelling microphones usher in a new era for modern recording.

Rightly named, EDGE features dual edge-terminated capsules for a smooth/natural sound, reproducing the expressiveness and character of costly classic microphones — albeit without excessive expense. Antelope Audio CEO Igor Levin designed groundbreaking fully-discrete electronics especially for the job at hand while hand-selected capsules are encased in a carefully-crafted enclosure with contours carefully shaped for optimal sonic performance. As a direct result, EDGE is an exquisite large-diaphragm condenser modelling microphone with excellent transient response and capable of multiple polar patterns.

VERGE visibly differs as a small-diaphragm condenser (back electret-type) modelling microphone suited to both nuanced accuracy and high SPL (Sound Pressure Level) recording. Also exhibiting excellent performance in its own right, it can capably take on the character and personality of the world’s best small-diaphragm condensers and electrets.

Entering the wonderful world of DISCRETE 8’s FPGA Accusonic 3D Modelling Engine enables users to transform both EDGE and VERGE into vintage replicas, realising complete control over proximity effect, off-axis response, and even allowing them to change polar patterns during or after recording! Try choosing from a collection of classic, costly microphones, then track the results while monitoring live to bring out the best possible performance from musicians. Bought bundled together, Antelope Audio’s all-new DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps plus accompanying EDGE and VERGE modelling microphones make for a winning team, bringing all-star performance and technology to a new audience. As an example, a DISCRETE 8 working with one EDGE and six VERGE modelling microphones can capably run two chains of FPGA effects inserts and all microphone emulations for one mic.

Musically speaking, the realtime FPGA platform offers a complete professional studio experience — microphones, preamps, conversion, compressors, EQs, reverb, and latency-free monitoring, all backed by Antelope Audio’s signature clocking combined into one unified system with instantly-recallable presets. Put it this way: users can even load AFX Presets from VIP Masters with favourite combinations of FPGA effects regularly being pressed into play on award-winning mixes to transform their own productions! Play to win… with Antelope Audio’s all-new DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps plus accompanying EDGE and VERGE modelling microphones, an entire signal path of customisable sonic excellence awaits any adoptee.

And if that’s not enough to convince, consider this: DISCRETE 8 can even save and load presets and exchange settings with Antelope Audio’s full lineup of FPGA-equipped professional audio interfaces, making it a no-brainer for both new users and existing owners using a second rig for touring or travel by allowing them to leave their current studio setup untouched when on the road or engaging in session work outside their own facility — free to roam, recording whatever and whenever with that winning team of modelling microphones and DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps!

The DISCRETE 8 Thunderbolt™ & USB Interface with 8 Discrete Mic Preamps plus EDGE and VERGE modelling microphones will soon be available via Antelope Audio’s growing global network of dealers. Antelope Audio itself is already accepting preorders on the following bundles: 1x DISCRETE 8, 1x EDGE, and 6x VERGE (€2,995.00 EUR); 1x DISCRETE 8 and 6x VERGE (€1,895.00 EUR); and 1x DISCRETE 8 and 1x EDGE (€1,995.00 EUR).

For more in-depth info, please visit the dedicated DISCRETE 8 webpage here: Discrete 8 | Antelope Audio

Watch Antelope Audio’s informative introductory DISCRETE 8 video here: https://youtu.be/oLJsaNriVxA

For more in-depth information, please visit the dedicated DISCRETE 8 + EDGE + VERGE bundle webpage here: Discrete 8, Edge & Verge Bundles | Antelope Audio

For more information about Antelope Audio’s FPGA effects, including a full library list, please visit the dedicated webpage here: Hardware-Based Audio Effects | Antelope Audio
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Old 2nd October 2017
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Antelope Discrete 8 Interface for $1299



Discrete 8 is a new interface from Antelope Audio. It features 8 fully discrete microphone preamps and exceptional converters, clocking, monitoring and FPGA powered FX for microphone modeling, mic preamp modeling, Vintage EQ’s and Compressors, as well as Guitar FX and an excellent monitoring reverb called AuraVerb.

Price: $1,299



Image with optional Edge and Verge Bundle




Bringing All-Star Technology & Performance to a new audience

Antelope Audio’s Discrete 8 Microphone Preamp Interface brings a new level of sound quality and power to home studios and mobile recording. It’s low-latency Thunderbolt and USB are Mac & PC compatible and Discrete 8 features 8 console grade six-transistor discrete preamps, 121db dynamic range conversion, prestigious clocking, and all of Antelope’s premier real-time FPGA FX. The AFX platform is a rapidly expanding hardware modeling engine, which now includes Accusonic microphone and preamp modeling, guitar amps & cabinets, transformer and tube FX, and a huge selection of classic vintage EQ’s and Compressors accessible standalone or via a new ConnectAFX Plugin. Controllable with an easy to use Routing & Monitoring System, Discrete 8 features 28-ins/32-outs via analog, S/PDIF, 2-ADAT’s, 2-Headphones and 2-Reamps.

An Entire Signal Path of Customizable Sonic Excellence

The Discrete 8 was developed after extensive research of legendary microphone preamp circuitry. These console grade fully discrete preamps were hand designed and offer world class sound allowing the FPGA engine to transform an already expensive sounding preamp into several classic preamps using Accusonic modeled Tube, Transformer, and FET based circuitry in real time.

By avoiding traditional buffered DSP calculations, the engineer and performer can hear instantly gratifying results of 10 different mic preamps, thanks to Antelope’s proven hardware modeling technology. The microphone source can be recorded with and without Accusonic modeling, offering the engineer the ultimate flexibility to choose between models afterwards in the mix. The entire signal path was designed for optimal sound with any microphone and especially when used with Antelope’s new Edge and Verge microphones with matching discrete electronics.

The real-time FPGA platform offers a complete professional studio experience. Microphones, Preamps, Conversion, Compressors, EQ’s, and Monitoring combined into one system with instantly recallable Presets. You can even load up AFX Presets from the Masters with their favorite combinations of FPGA FX used daily on their own mixes.

Monitor FX During Tracking - ConnectAFX Plugin For The Mix

Antelope Audio's Field Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) technology powers a huge included package of premier FPGA FX. Whether monitoring a performance inside the Discrete 8 EasyPanel, or when used with the new ConnectAFX Plugin, users will enjoy authentic hardware-based re-creations of classic studio equipment, which respond more like real hardware thanks to Antelope's component-based modeling platform.


Plug in your guitar directly into one of the hi-Z enabled inputs and instantly transform your sound with some of the most iconic guitar amps and cabinets around. Then add classic compressor and EQ models to hear a finished sounding studio result with real time responsiveness as you play your preferred amp, cabinet, and microphone combination. Get ready to perform and record either with fx or your direct input and process later using the built-in guitar effects or use the ReAmp outputs to connect to any of your pedals or external instrument level effects and record that sound back in.

Guitar Amps
• Burnsphere (DE)
• Marcus II (US)
• Overange 120 (UK)
• Tweed Deluxe
• Top30
• Darkface
• Modern
• Plexi 59
• Rock 75
• Rock 22.10

Equalizers
• VEQ-55b
• VEQ-STU 089
• VEQ-STU 169
• VEQ-STU 900
• VEQ HA32C
• BAE 1023
• BAE 1084
• NEU-W492
• NEU-W495
• NEU-PEV
• VEQ-4K Series
• VEQ-4K Black
• VEQ-4K Brown
• VEQ-4K Pink
• VEQ-4K Orange
• BAE-1073
• VEQ-HLF
• VEQ-1A
• VMEQ-5
• VEQ-55A
• Lang PEQ2
• UK-69
• ClearQ

Compressors
• X903
• VCA160
• Gyraf Gyratec X
• Tube176
• Grove Hill Liverpool
• FET-A76
• FET-A78
• ALT-436C
• BA-6A
• SMT-100A
• Stay-Levin
• TubeChild670
• Power EX
• Power Gate
• Feedforward Compressor
Reverb
• AuraVerb

A Breakthrough Discrete Microphone Preamp Design

Antelope’s console grade 6-transistor discrete preamp is exceptionally unique and transforms the Discrete line of interfaces into professional microphone preamps that can interface, instead of an interface with mic pres added in. The mic preamp in this case was the first step of the design process. Traditionally, interface preamps are comprised of only 2 transistors making them a hybrid between transistors and IC chips. Antelope incorporates a fully discrete design consisting of 6 accurately matched transistors, yet maintaining the advantages of digital control and repeatability of gain levels. Field effect transistors are used to add an expensive touch of warmth and naturalness to the sound. Bipolar transistors keep THD and noise extremely low, which is uncommon in a discrete design.

Clocking Is The Center Of The Antelope Universe

For 25 years, Igor Levin has led the world in clocking technology for pro audio systems. His proprietary clocking techniques and secret jitter management module algorithms have been at the core of the Antelope Sound in all of it’s clocking and conversion products. The Discrete 8 is no exception. In fact, this mic preamp interface is a professional clocking solution in it’s own right. It features Antelope’s 4th Generation AFC Clock used on the popular Trinity, OCX-HD, LiveClock, Pure2, Goliath, Orion, and Zen products. There is a WC Input that can de-jitter and distribute an external clock signal. And 3 WC outputs to allow for expanding the Discrete 8 with other digital gear and mic preamps with it’s ADAT and S/PDIF connections, keeping all the gear perfectly in sync.

Expert Monitoring With Ease For Both Pros and Beginners

The Discrete 8 has a comprehensive, yet easy to setup monitoring and talkback section. A band can have up to 4 individual monitoring mix auxes with FPGA FX included. This provides the engineer the ability to make custom headphone mixes for each performer with effects included to allow themselves to be heard more like they will on the final record. Users can even create custom presets to easily setup various tracking scenarios in a snap. The front panel features a monitor volume knob and dedicated HP knobs for each output, as well. The talkback mic is also built into the front panel above the Talkback button. Talkback can also be engaged using the assignable footswitch on the back, in the EasyPanel software, or via IOS/Android App. Metering is viewable on the front panel display, inside the EasyPanel and also via the remote App.

Expansive I/O Connectivity To Serve Your Growing Needs

Antelope prides itself on offering the most I/O options and flexibility anywhere and Discrete 8 doesn’t disappoint. On the front are 2 conveniently located discrete mic inputs, which also double as guitar/line inputs. On the back are 6 more combo inputs for mic/line. The monitor outs are ¼” TRS jacks and there are 8 more line outputs on a d-sub connector. There are two guitar reamp outputs on the back, as well as 2 headphone outs on the front. The digital options make this a potential powerhouse studio centerpiece, including 2x ADAT I/O and S/PDIF I/O for expanding either more DA converters or adding ADAT-equipped external mic preamps. There is a WC input and 3 WC outputs, for keeping an expanded system fully in sync.

A Rapidly Growing Audio Interface Platform

Discrete 8 can save and load AFX presets to exchange settings with the entire Antelope line of FPGA equipped pro audio interfaces. This means that you can share your own FX settings with other Antelope users and even load professionally programmed stacks of FX from the Pros. This makes Discrete 8 a great option for both new users and existing Antelope owners alike, who may wish to have a 2nd rig to leave their current studio untouched when touring or doing session work outside their usual recording space.

Remote Control via IOS and Android Phones or Tablets

Using Antelope’s downloadable remote App, you can adjust all microphone input levels, talkback levels, as well as monitoring and headphone volumes remotely. This means musicians can control their own headphone volume on their phones and an engineer can check drum mic levels from the tracking room, as well as any other instrument.

Last edited by Clybourne; 10th October 2017 at 12:15 PM.. Reason: added mic panel image
Old 2nd October 2017
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expensive sounding preamp
Well, we know what kind of market Antelope is going after with this one.

Old 2nd October 2017
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On sale already at Sweetwater HERE

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Old 2nd October 2017
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are several discrete 4/8 units daisy chainable?
Old 2nd October 2017
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The user TAFKAT has done magnificent work here on GS to provide standardized measurements för latency. Antelope doesn't fare too well in those comparisons, see for example this post: Audio Interface - Low Latency Performance Data Base.

Has Antelope made any significant changes regarding drivers (the main factor affecting latency)? Could you make a unit available to TAFKAT for testing? He is commited to testing any interface he has got his hands on. And as far as I can tell his methods are OK, ie as unbiased as can be.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Antelope keeps pushing out product after product.. yet I can't forget the Aardvaark iteration of their company. They are simply unreliable as a company and the fact that they keep pumping out "new" stuff constantly with massive marketing blurbs reinforces this unreliability even further.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Antelope keeps pushing out product after product.. yet I can't forget the Aardvaark iteration of their company. They are simply unreliable as a company and the fact that they keep pumping out "new" stuff constantly with massive marketing blurbs reinforces this unreliability even further.
Don't forget their "devoted" fanbase (aka shill posters who bump threads with meaningless comments to cover up all the legitimate customer service issues). How long until jthomp85 makes an appearance in this thread?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/memb...8650-jthomp85/

The sad thing is they used to be a reputable company. I hope they're at least paying Gearslutz a bunch of cash for all the spammy marketing they do on here.
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Old 2nd October 2017
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The user TAFKAT has done magnificent work here on GS to provide standardized measurements för latency. Antelope doesn't fare too well in those comparisons, see for example this post: Audio Interface - Low Latency Performance Data Base.

Has Antelope made any significant changes regarding drivers (the main factor affecting latency)? Could you make a unit available to TAFKAT for testing? He is commited to testing any interface he has got his hands on. And as far as I can tell his methods are OK, ie as unbiased as can be.
Zen Tour owner here. I'm not having any issues with latency. I track with a Slate VMS ML1 (through the Antelope pres) and a Kemper (direct line input) with the zero latency monitoring on the Zen Tour (with the mic going through the FPGA compressors).
I also track drums with BFD3 over MIDI (USB on Win10 at 64 or 128 samples) and have no issues with latency, which you can always really feel on MIDI drums if there is any.

In Cubase 9 (which unfortunately, is not a particularly well optimised DAW), compared to my previous Steinberg UR824, or Focusrite 18i8 2nd gen, the ASIO performance/usage is a lot more stable, and at lower sample buffers I am observing much lower ASIO usage and more headroom to play with.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Troll brigade! Assemble!

Seriously, though, guys, please forgive my bluntness but genuine question - do you have an axe to grind to be circling like this?

Thedberg - Tafkat's comment isn't even an up-to-date comparison as it's a check from 2 years ago, using 5-year-old hardware based on drivers from 2 years ago. The Orions are notorious for devouring 80-90% of a computer's USB 2 bandwidth, so if the rest of the setup isn't fully updated, optimised for DAW or running a host of peripherals, there will be issues. Now, you can get RTL's almost identical to over thunderbolt, via USB 2, and more stable than RME's drivers (and I'm a long-time user of RME). After a point, shaving portions of a millisecond off a data comparison chart just becomes 'willy-waving'.
Aside from that, I know some big producers who swear by their Orion32's, and if it's good enough for them when tracking some of the world's biggest bands and artists, it's good enough for me!
I'm sure if really wants to review a current-gen Antelope interface with current-gen drivers, he can do what the rest of us plebs have had to do and pay for it.

Bmanic - really? Have you used their current customer service or user groups? They are fantastic and always ready to help. Even if they're stumped, they'll make arrangements to help. They're a young company (whatever iteration they may be on), but they are constantly learning and improving. And what about you? Do you keep making sales to stay in business? Do you have to keep going to work? Could we say that you're not trustworthy because you don't work every day?
Antelope make hardware. They also make software. And they give the latter (which is always top notch) to their users for free. So they're not making money on it. So they have to push new hardware as a business model. At least they're not doing an Apple and using their software to brick older items of hardware, forcing you to upgrade. Antelope users upgrade because they know that they can trust the company.

Miradoclassic - really? Marketing offends you? Users who are engaging in a bit of fun and promotion upsets you? Does anything derive pleasure for you in life any more? This is one of many forums on the web - stuff will probably fall by the wayside - it's the nature of the beast. Users know where customer support is, and when customer support is closed for the night (so they can have lives or sleep, too), then Users are also aware that they can get tech support from other users, pretty much 24 hours a day on Facebook. The Antelope users do have dedicated users who feel quite passionately about what they have and will jump to defend it - especially as they recognise what extraordinary value it is, and, comparatively, just how much other companies are fleecing them/you.

So the real question is, are you guys paid to pounce on new threads like this, engaging in general whataboutery and disinformation?

Frankly, it's tiring.

I have a member of the extended family who does this kind of thing for fun and, unsurprisingly, nobody really likes him.

So, apologies if I have been rude or brusque - I have the care of a 10-day old baby and have not slept since the birth. Thus, I am rather short-tempered.

Heck, Antelope, if you'd like to send me thousands of pounds/dollars worth of hardware for me to 'review' in a sleep-deprived state, then I am always willing!
Old 2nd October 2017
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ok, I am gonna start by saying I dont own yet an antelope interface, I am on my RME babyface about 10 years now and happy with it, but the last 8-9 months or so I started looking to upgrade to a multi-channel card cause I got more customers and needing more channels. At the beginning I though I will go with the safe choice, an rme fireface or something RME. but me being me I had to look more deeply on the subject as I was to going to spend a few thousands. Firstly I saw the announcement of slate vrs-8 with the modeling system and I though what a great package but there was no chance in hell I would pre-order this before it was released, test-drive and reviewed to hell, but meanwhile slate was delaying the release this naturally gave me more time to look into things, then I discovered Antelope orion studio 2017 and I though wow! 12 preamps 16 outputs that sounds like paradise but I thought they don't have any modeling system like slate and I kinda want this now that I know about it. but orion studio still gave way more in other stuff like digital inputs/outputs, proved AD/DA converters that sound amazing and also FPGA which I didnt take it into much consideration at the time, but it was at least appealing, so I kept looking into the subject.

While I kept searching about it I found users like few of the above with bitter experiences or other users who had nothing better to do than show of their minds (unfortunately this is a thing I encounter everyday not just on internet but real life) Those users put me off but the package was to great to stop looking to it so early and vrs-8 was still a long way from release, on the way I discovered the Facebook group and joined just in case I learn anything new. at the beginning it was also putting me of (still is to be honest sometimes, one of the admins, just too much excitement is fake sometimes) but as time progressed I saw users posting their problems and their excitement. I saw 9 out of 10 users to get their problems sorted and that their problems where mostly with the antelope update procedure which is not at it best at the moment. so I considered it part user and part antelope fault. Antelope said though that they will sort this update thing. The one user that couldn't get his problems fixed got a new unit. I saw their support on facebook group really working and helping and I saw Marcel actually caring about customers and his product, its been 6-7 months now that am looking into the subject and still I haven't purchased anything yet but I'd be lying if I said orion studio is not my top choice.

While looking at it I also realized the benefits of actually having direct monitoring through interface, I also have now on babyface but I never use it cause I dont have much effects, not even a simple compressor, but on antelope case direct monitoring could be such a huge benefit cause they actually have all the stuff you would need for monitoring, and direct monitoring skips the buffers so whether you are on usb or thunderbolt it doesn't care, which is a great thing to have! Right now I am on windows and my pc doesnt even have a thunderbolt! So even if antelope had thunderbolt drivers I still wouldnt be able to take advantage of thunderbolt latencies while vrs-8 has the pci thingy which didnt force me to buy a new computer and made me draw towards it but while I kept learning more and more about orion studio direct monitoring the vrs-8 slowly started losing its appeal with the pci. I know wouldnt have as fast latencies with vst instruments (those though are fine with usb latencies cause there are no phasing issues and I wouldnt say 5ms slow for virtual instruments)

So to conclude it all, of course they are no perfect company, who is anyways? but these guys they are trying and they are listening to their user base, proof of 8 and 4 channels new interfaces, you can't imagine how much this was requested on the group. I would expect the announcement today to be mostly about their mic modelling stuff but they made interfaces also and without de-evaluating their previous stuff. As for me I am still not sure If I go with orion studio, its my first choice true but now am gonna wait for the mic system to be released and reviewed hopefully slate's vrs-8 will also be released and decided which one I will with, if antelope mic system is as good as slate's its a no-brainer for me.

Now why did I bother writing all this stuff? because those uniformed users really bother me, people make conclusions so easily and its so annoying, wish people where better informed before the write something or comment on something, that would make everything a much better place, it would also make my whole research journey more enjoyable.

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Old 2nd October 2017
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Zen Tour owner here. I'm not having any issues with latency. I track with a Slate VMS ML1 (through the Antelope pres) and a Kemper (direct line input) with the zero latency monitoring on the Zen Tour (with the mic going through the FPGA compressors).
I also track drums with BFD3 over MIDI (USB on Win10 at 64 or 128 samples) and have no issues with latency, which you can always really feel on MIDI drums if there is any.

In Cubase 9 (which unfortunately, is not a particularly well optimised DAW), compared to my previous Steinberg UR824, or Focusrite 18i8 2nd gen, the ASIO performance/usage is a lot more stable, and at lower sample buffers I am observing much lower ASIO usage and more headroom to play with.
Great that it works for you! But TAFKAT's list doesn't address that use case, it's about real time latency when monitoring through a DAW.

And to some other posters: I'm not trolling. I'm genuinely interested. I'm on the lookout for an interface with great converters and low latency/high efficiency when playing guitars and software synths through my DAW.

As far as I know TAFKAT's list is the only resource on the planet with a standardized procedure for comparing this use case. If Antelope has made improvements in their drivers the last two years they could easily show that by lending an interface to him for a couple of weeks. It would end that discussion immediately. I for one would be happy and a potential customer.
Old 2nd October 2017
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On sale already at Sweetwater HERE
Marcel, how will this stack with the Zen Tour (or any of the other Antelope interfaces really? Would you be able to do a demonstration of two interfaces together for those of us who are considering expanding our rigs with more pres? Would be accessing settings on separate control panels, but routing one into the other digitally? Or would we be making up an aggregate device for the DAW to see one device with the inputs we choose?

I am interested in finding out more about the product, I've been looking for more location recording options.
Old 2nd October 2017
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The user TAFKAT has done magnificent work here on GS to provide standardized measurements för latency. Antelope doesn't fare too well in those comparisons, see for example this post: Audio Interface - Low Latency Performance Data Base.

Has Antelope made any significant changes regarding drivers (the main factor affecting latency)? Could you make a unit available to TAFKAT for testing? He is commited to testing any interface he has got his hands on. And as far as I can tell his methods are OK, ie as unbiased as can be.
Actual Antelope user here. I've been using the Orion 32 and now 32+ for several years. Tracking and monitoring on a PC through Sonar in the real world using 96kHz (24 bit) audio over USB has never been a problem for me or the artists I've worked with, including some very picky vocalists. Not speculation or trolling, but real world experience -- latency is so small as to to be negligible.

Never gone above 22 channels simultaneously, but that should be enough of a test for most people to make up their minds.

I presume TAFKAT is sincere and competent in the work he does, and that the numbers he produces are accurate comparisoms as far as they go, but relying on this kind of testing as a sole determinant strikes me as equivalent to choosing a mic based only on its frequency response curve -- potentially helpful information but too small fraction of the story.
Old 2nd October 2017
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appears to me you may have joined Gearslutz just to attack Antelope, a whole 3 months in and already singling out manufacturers for attack are the first signs of a GS troll

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Don't forget their "devoted" fanbase (aka shill posters who bump threads with meaningless comments to cover up all the legitimate customer service issues). How long until jthomp85 makes an appearance in this thread?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/memb...8650-jthomp85/

The sad thing is they used to be a reputable company. I hope they're at least paying Gearslutz a bunch of cash for all the spammy marketing they do on here.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Please cut the bull$hit and focus on the product being announced. Some of us just wants details on the product, not read about trolls and people not satisfied with OTHER products that this company offers. You know, they have other threads for that.
Just a thought
Old 2nd October 2017
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I think this and the Discrete 4 look fantastic, well-done Antelope, looking forward to finding out more about the mic, also I think it's time to bring a delay plugin.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Is there any info on the ConnectAFX Plugin? I hadn't heard of this before, sounds interesting.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Originally Posted by DarkandKurious View Post
Marcel, how will this stack with the Zen Tour (or any of the other Antelope interfaces really? Would you be able to do a demonstration of two interfaces together for those of us who are considering expanding our rigs with more pres? Would be accessing settings on separate control panels, but routing one into the other digitally? Or would we be making up an aggregate device for the DAW to see one device with the inputs we choose?

I am interested in finding out more about the product, I've been looking for more location recording options.
Both units are ADAT equipped so I guess that's one option you can hook them together.

As to Discrete 8 it's great to see Antelope Audio getting so close to the $1000 price range and with the smaller (Discrete 4 unit) actually finally going under that. This I hope will mean many new users!

We now demand samples!

By the way, big ups @ mattzisk and @ demetrisag who actually took the time to write a sincere user story while most users who are bitter about AA I'm pretty convenient have never owned a unit.
Old 2nd October 2017
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Originally Posted by crystaldon303 View Post

By the way, big ups @ mattzisk and @ demetrisag who actually took the time to write a sincere user story while most users who are bitter about AA I'm pretty convenient have never owned a unit.
I am actually wondering when was the last time when @ mattzisk and @ demetrisag tried to contact support

Just saying you know, also will love to check their Case numbers and the lack of resolution.

Alex
Old 2nd October 2017
  #21
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Originally Posted by anon View Post
I think this and the Discrete 4 look fantastic, well-done Antelope, looking forward to finding out more about the mic, also I think it's time to bring a delay plugin.
I got a reply from msflsim in another post about the mics: "Hardware mic(s) with software emulations of mic models and pre-amps. Will be offered to Antelope users for less.", but I am still curious, what is the connection between the mics and the two Discretes and is there any at all... Anyone?
Old 2nd October 2017
  #22
Gear Head
I am a happy Antelope user myself too. Never had latency or driver problems so far and i used quite a bit interfaces in my life.

These new units look interesting but from what i understand its just Antelope is trying to get to something more affordable while also providing new technology with the mic emulations...

My question and i guess everybody's first question is, will the microphone emulation software come only with the Discrete line or is it going to be available for all interfaces?
Old 2nd October 2017
  #23
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Daaaaaaaaamn it,

You guys @ Antelope @ marcel just keep on pushing the envelop forward. I had the first Zen Studio (sold it) and since then been waiting for to upgrade to a newer sound card and man now with the built-in Mic modeling taking advantage of FPGA Fx as well as your NEw AFX to DAW plugins, man got me all excited here. Jesus guys, whatever my pas experience with Antelope & my Zen and many can find out on earlier Zen threads etc.. but still have to say that Antelope have come long way and their support has gotten better and better and their product quality is one of the best on the market period.

As long as Antelope make sure to be responsive with their users / make their DRIVERS rock solid for their product lines & keep evolving & bringing solid stuff without leaving behind old products but instead keep up their earlier products to date, then I think the future is bright.

Considering big time for a new Antelope product soon especially if the New Mic Modelling & AFX to DAW will be ported to their other earlier Products like Orion Studio Rev or Zen Studio+ etc.. I say Bravo

Lets how all this great news & products will unfold as time goes.

Kudos to Antelope & @ marcel for these great products


Now need to call up my local music store here in Montreal, grab one of these babies & put them in action especially the mic modelling
Old 2nd October 2017
  #24
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Originally Posted by alexiliev83 View Post
I am actually wondering when was the last time when @ mattzisk and @ demetrisag tried to contact support

Just saying you know, also will love to check their Case numbers and the lack of resolution.

Alex
I don't own a unit, i wouldn't need to contact support
Old 2nd October 2017
  #25
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Miradoclassic - really? Marketing offends you? Users who are engaging in a bit of fun and promotion upsets you?
Look at the screenshot I quoted. That's not marketing and promotion. Marketing and promotion is a company starting a thread about their product, making their identities, affiliations and motivations known, and answering questions. I have no problem with that.

Incentivizing users to shill on forums doesn't positively contribute to Gearslutz in any way, and I'm going to call them out for it because I happen to like this site and don't want to see it turn into a place full of shill posters like jthomp85.

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appears to me you may have joined Gearslutz just to attack Antelope, a whole 3 months in and already singling out manufacturers for attack are the first signs of a GS troll
Just because I'm not joining the suspicious chorus of people singing Antelope's praises doesn't mean I'm a troll. If you took the time to look at my post history you would see participation in a number of threads featuring a number of manufacturers. Some of my comments are positive, others are not. But they're all genuine. Don't try to deflect from the real issue here.

I feel sorry for people who are annoyed by facts and genuine impressions. Says a lot more about you than it does about me, though.
Old 2nd October 2017
  #26
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Originally Posted by alexiliev83 View Post
I am actually wondering when was the last time when @ mattzisk and @ demetrisag tried to contact support

Just saying you know, also will love to check their Case numbers and the lack of resolution.

Alex
I just looked back at my history with Antelope support to be sure. I registered my Orion 32 with Antelope in early June 2015, and have not needed to call support on it or the 32+ I registered and started using early last month.

FYI -- I've moved the interfaces among 3 laptops and a workstation using at times Windows 7, 8 and 10 (all 64 bit) and haven't experienced any issues that I couldn't solve using the manual or by fiddling myself. All the machines have been equipped with fast Intel quad-core (or better) processors and with at least 16GB of RAM, and I use Bitdefender rather than the native Microsoft security suite.
Old 2nd October 2017
  #27
Here for the gear
Looks great, guys!
Old 2nd October 2017
  #28
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Old 2nd October 2017
  #29
I use my RME Fireface 400 now for 10 years. It is rocksolid and super reliable. Perfect together with my MacBook Pro Mid 2012. But definitely looking at Antelope stuff more and more. Slate is also on my radar.
Old 2nd October 2017
  #30
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I use my RME Fireface 400 now for 10 years. It is rocksolid and super reliable. Perfect together with my MacBook Pro Mid 2012. But definitely looking at Antelope stuff more and more. Slate is also on my radar.
Thanks for considering Antelope. It's an honor for us and let me know if we can help you with any questions you may have going forward.

Kind Regards,
Marcel
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