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Old 6th February 2007
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Post Antress Vintage Emulators

Modern LA-2ME


Modern 1176ME


These plugins sound great, and of course, they are free !

I did a quick test with the LA-2ME on vocals with the"limit" mode and it sounded really good .

I also did a quick test with the 1176ME on bass guitar, and it's so far so good .

So, you can download them here :
http://antress.myweb.hinet.net/ (bottom of the page)

What do you think about the sound ?
Old 6th February 2007
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Kinda 'flat' sounding wouldnt you say ?

didn't like them all that much
Old 6th February 2007
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1176ME has a bug with the meter (output level has effect in the gainreduction display).

It sounds more aggressive and flat. The response is completely other then with a UAD 1176 or LA-2A. I don't like it so much. Nice freeware but not really a 1176 or LA-2A Clone Moved to trash...
Old 6th February 2007
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thanks for the link, I forwarded it to my PC musician friends (with budgets the size of a gnat), not that they're looking for LA-2a emus but the rest looks useful for experimentation setups..
cheers thumbsup
Old 6th February 2007
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The "Special Collection" is pretty decent for freeware. I kinda liked the Analoger.
Old 6th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Slash View Post
Modern LA-2ME


Modern 1176ME


These plugins sound great, and of course, they are free !

I did a quick test with the LA-2ME on vocals with the"limit" mode and it sounded really good .

I also did a quick test with the 1176ME on bass guitar, and it's so far so good .

So, you can download them here :
http://antress.myweb.hinet.net/ (bottom of the page)

What do you think about the sound ?
WOW - very impressed at your work - i flirted with development - have no programming experience - i downloaded the core audio sdk from apple and played around with it...

did you have a lot of programming experince?

how long does a plug take? hours 100? 50? 200?

where are you headed? commercial release?

what got you started in this?

wow - very cool - any more ino you'd like to share i'm all ears

-thanx
-michael
Old 6th February 2007
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Originally Posted by Dr Gruv View Post
WOW - very impressed at your work - i flirted with development - have no programming experience - i downloaded the core audio sdk from apple and played around with it...

did you have a lot of programming experince?

how long does a plug take? hours 100? 50? 200?

where are you headed? commercial release?

what got you started in this?

wow - very cool - any more ino you'd like to share i'm all ears

-thanx
-michael
I'm not the developer ^^, just an happy user.

If you have questions regarding the developer, please mail him at... Oh sorry, just realized that his website is, how to say, I don't understand the language !

http://www.antress.in-tw.com/
Old 8th February 2007
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Modern LA-2ME



On the Modern LA-2ME plugin the Gain & Peak Reduction controls
don't behave anything like an LA-2A. For instance, when the
Gain knob is turned all the way down to"0", audio still
passes through unlike the real LA-2A which emits no audio @ "0" gain.
The GR metering does not respond like an LA-2A either.
I found The LA-2ME distorts rather badly (sounded like a blown
speaker on a bass part I was testing it on) once you start riding
the gain. The UA LA-2A plugin is distortion free even when you
ride the gain to the max. The GUI is kinda quirky with many elements
not fully showing up, when first opened. Closing and re-opening
the GUI usually fixes it though.


Modern 1176ME



The Modern 1176ME compression ratios are out of whack as well
as the metering when compared to a 1176LN. As you step up to
each higher compression ratio the coresponding output gets
progressively louder with increasing distortion (again sounding
like a blown speaker). Totally unlike an 1176. This seems to be
a common characteristic with these vintage plugins.
Like the UAD-1 LA-2A, the UAD-1 1176LN is distortion free
even when you ride the input/output to the MAX. The attack &
release response don't act the same as the 1176LN either.
Like the LA-2ME, the GUI is kinda quirky in some VST hosts.

Anyway, I guess you get what you pay for, or in this case
don't pay for with these plugins, which is not all that much.
The closest they come to the real thing is in the GUI, which is
pretty spot on. I think the placebo effect has kicked in for those
that think these plugins are top notch. I happen to think the vintage
GUI has seduced them and not so much the sound. I think
Andress would be better off using a different GUI, so as not
to set the bar so high and let them have their own identity.
I really don't have much use for these plugins other than maybe as a
novelty. They certainly would not replace my own UAD-1 plugin versions
in a mix.

After having tried all of Antress plugins, the only keeper for me
is the Modern Analoger, which can impart a pleasing analog
sounding character to a mix, especially in oversample Hi-Res mode.
It has it's own unique style GUI that is very easy on the eyes.
This is the best of the bunch, by far, IMO.




Cheers,

Billy Buck
Old 8th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Buck View Post
Modern LA-2ME



On the Modern LA-2ME plugin the Gain & Peak Reduction controls
don't behave anything like an LA-2A. For instance, when the
Gain knob is turned all the way down to"0", audio still
passes through unlike the real LA-2A which emits no audio @ "0" gain.
The GR metering does not respond like an LA-2A either.
I found The LA-2ME distorts rather badly (sounded like a blown
speaker on a bass part I was testing it on) once you start riding
the gain. The UA LA-2A plugin is distortion free even when you
ride the gain to the max. The GUI is kinda quirky with many elements
not fully showing up, when first opened. Closing and re-opening
the GUI usually fixes it though.


Modern 1176ME



The Modern 1176ME compression ratios are out of whack as well
as the metering when compared to a 1176LN. As you step up to
each higher compression ratio the coresponding output gets
progressively louder with increasing distortion (again sounding
like a blown speaker). Totally unlike an 1176. This seems to be
a common characteristic with these vintage plugins.
Like the UAD-1 LA-2A, the UAD-1 1176LN is distortion free
even when you ride the input/output to the MAX. The attack &
release response don't act the same as the 1176LN either.
Like the LA-2ME, the GUI is kinda quirky in some VST hosts.

Anyway, I guess you get what you pay for, or in this case
don't pay for with these plugins, which is not all that much.
The closest they come to the real thing is in the GUI, which is
pretty spot on. I think the placebo effect has kicked in for those
that think these plugins are top notch. I happen to think the vintage
GUI has seduced them and not so much the sound. I think
Andress would be better off using a different GUI, so as not
to set the bar so high and let them have their own identity.
I really don't have much use for these plugins other than maybe as a
novelty. They certainly would not replace my own UAD-1 plugin versions
in a mix.

After having tried all of Antress plugins, the only keeper for me
is the Analoger, which imparts a pleasing analog sounding character
to a mix. That is the best of the bunch, by far, IMO.


Cheers,

Billy Buck
for the record not that impressed with the sound but appreciate the skill required for programming
Old 9th February 2007
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He's updated the algos since you guys have posted and they sound much better. Thing is there was no mention on his site that they are different versions. You gotta download em and look at the dates.
Old 9th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Buck View Post
After having tried all of Antress plugins, the only keeper for me
is the Modern Analoger, which can impart a pleasing analog
sounding character to a mix, especially in oversample Hi-Res mode.
It has it's own unique style GUI that is very easy on the eyes.
This is the best of the bunch, by far, IMO.




Cheers,

Billy Buck
What's the deal with the controls on the Analoger? I couldn't find a manual or documentation for these plugins. It seems that the "leve" is doing something other than controlling level. Any idea? I tried the whole suite out briefly last night and pretty much agree with everyone's assessment. I'm going to see if I have the latest version though.

Brad
Old 9th February 2007
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sounds ok to me for a free plugin.
i think they are made with synthmaker.
therefore sound is not as unique as other pay-software.

but: these things got a very nice gui.
maybe this helps making people go: wow!
heh

i just read that some think the gui is "stolen" from uad ...
Old 9th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad McGowan View Post
What's the deal with the controls on the Analoger? I couldn't find a manual or documentation for these plugins. It seems that the "leve" is doing something other than controlling level. Any idea?
it adds hi end at ca 8000hz (like a bell). and the color control takes hi end away at ca 11000hz-12000hz.
Old 9th February 2007
  #14
Only for the records... The GUIs are ripped from the UAD plugins, this was compared from some guys at KvR and you can see how the original UAD signed interface was brushed...

Average sounding plugins created with predefined modules from Synthmaker and stolen GUI from 1176 and LA-2A from the UA plugins.
This guy from Taiwan is fooling us and your eyes dfegad
Old 9th February 2007
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Originally Posted by 4damind View Post
This guy from Taiwan is fooling us and your eyes dfegad

Ignoring the implied racism, are you saying UAD isn't "fooling us"? I'm a UAD owner myself, and I really don't know if I quite buy that.

As far as this "guy from Taiwan's" plugins are concerned, I find the "1176" gives a pleasant absurd trash when pressed. Certainly un-1176-like, but useful nonetheless.

In any case, if he upsets you, you can return the money he charged you....oh, that's right. They're free.



Old 10th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Empty Planet View Post
...
You do not understand, isn't it? The userinterfaces are stolen from the UAD plugins, the guy has fetched the bitmap resources from the libraries and erased the UAD logo to make his own.
The interface is stolen and on the other side the plugins has nothing to do with the real 1176 or LA-2A. Its only labeled so, to make it interesting to people.


(I own 2 UADs).
Old 10th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Buck View Post
Modern LA-2ME
After having tried all of Antress plugins, the only keeper for me
is the Modern Analoger, which can impart a pleasing analog
sounding character to a mix, especially in oversample Hi-Res mode.
It has it's own unique style GUI that is very easy on the eyes.
This is the best of the bunch, by far, IMO.




Cheers,

Billy Buck

Agreed, the Analoger is highly useable, the others sound like distortion boxes to me, just popping them into the signal chain @ unity gain and no compression produced distortion. Took them off almost immediately because of this effect.
Old 10th February 2007
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Funny thing is the GUI is a little better than the UAD but the sound is yucky! I set up the La2A and 1176 next to the UAD plugs same settings and they are dirty and is no focus. Unusable to me but can't complain I didn't pay thanks for the effort.
Old 10th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeStoker View Post
Funny thing is the GUI is a little better than the UAD but the sound is yucky! I set up the La2A and 1176 next to the UAD plugs same settings and they are dirty and is no focus. Unusable to me but can't complain I didn't pay thanks for the effort.

i love dirty sound
Old 10th February 2007
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A couple of points here.

It is made in Synthmaker but that does'nt mean it can't be as unique sounding as anything else. There are low level modules so you're just as capable of creating something unique in SM as you are doing it in C++,Assembler,Delphi etc.
The same is true about SynthEdit by the way if someone is interested.

The GUI is ripped of from UA. The guy was'nt even shy about it.
He has some serious errmmm "liberal" views on intellectual property.

I'd be a little hesitant implying rasicm in general and in this case in particular.
He did say something to the effect of: Everybody does it here in Taiwan and noone cares about it. What is okay in your country isn't necessary considered okay in ours and vice versa.
Old 10th February 2007
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Pretty ordinary plugs imo.

The BF76 is fantastic in PT, I use it on nearly everything, It's free too. You have to get the attack and release in the perfect sweet spot b4, otherwise they sound lame but once you get some presets, it's an amazing plugin! Alot of ppl give in, and don't realise its potential.
Old 10th February 2007
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Pretty ordinary plugs imo.

The BF76 is fantastic in PT, I use it on nearly everything, It's free too. You have to get the attack and release in the perfect sweet spot b4, otherwise they sound lame but once you get some presets, it's an amazing plugin! Alot of ppl give in, and don't realise its potential.
Yep, agreed!
Old 10th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisma View Post
He's updated the algos since you guys have posted and they sound much better. Thing is there was no mention on his site that they are different versions. You gotta download em and look at the dates.
Hey thanks for the info Chrisma! I did take another look & listen and the 1176ME does sound much better now. Still does not sound and behave like the original, but it is quite usable now. Not too bad for a freebie. I noticed that Antress released another classic vintage plugin. It seems to be "inspired" by the Manley Vari-Mu.

Modern Vari-Mu




I have never used a real Manley Vari-Mu, but I have been experimenting with the Modern version on drum & master buses and it can add a pleasant sounding character to a mix. Can't argue with the price.
Old 10th February 2007
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This 1176 is nice for FX, but not really your 'bread ad butter' comp.
As said earlier in this thread; dirty stuff...quite nice!
Very nice eyecandy also.
Old 10th February 2007
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He has a emulation of a dbx160 VU (dbme160) which I have the original rack.
I will do some test.
Old 11th February 2007
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Quote:
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Pretty ordinary plugs imo.

The BF76 is fantastic in PT, I use it on nearly everything, It's free too. You have to get the attack and release in the perfect sweet spot b4, otherwise they sound lame but once you get some presets, it's an amazing plugin! Alot of ppl give in, and don't realise its potential.
Hgen have you tryed the Purple Audio MC77 ? Could you give me some around about settings for the BF76 Bass Drums??
Old 11th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Buck View Post
Hey thanks for the info Chrisma! I did take another look & listen and the 1176ME does sound much better now. Still does not sound and behave like the original, but it is quite usable now. Not too bad for a freebie. I noticed that Antress released another classic vintage plugin. It seems to be "inspired" by the Manley Vari-Mu.

Modern Vari-Mu




I have never used a real Manley Vari-Mu, but I have been experimenting with the Modern version on drum & master buses and it can add a pleasant sounding character to a mix. Can't argue with the price.
Yeah I like this one. It adds really nice knock to the kick drum and pops the vocals pop in the mix in compression mode with the attack set to slow, the release at medium and the threshold between 9 and 10 o'clock.

Don't how accurate this one is but it's definately a good one.
Old 11th February 2007
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for your own sake. change the graphics.
Old 11th February 2007
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The GUI´s of these causing problems in my system, so no go unless
corrected.
Matti
Old 11th February 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisma View Post
Yeah I like this one. It adds really nice knock to the kick drum and pops the vocals pop in the mix in compression mode with the attack set to slow, the release at medium and the threshold between 9 and 10 o'clock.

Don't how accurate this one is but it's definately a good one.
The other releases can be quite useful, if not overused - they do sound quite flat very easily - but the VariMu is absolutely nothing like the original. Just got done sending some mixes through the hardware box and thought I'd give it a try - ... no comment.

Also limit mode causes wavelab to crash.
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