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Audiorealism ABL3 (TB-303)
Old 3rd January 2016
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Audiorealism ABL3 (TB-303)

https://www.audiorealism.se/audiorea...ss-line-3.html
Old 3rd January 2016
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Cool!

I hope this means there will be a Pro upgrade too..
Old 3rd January 2016
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Abl 2 is ok till i played with a tt303. Really hoping abl 3 sounds closer to the real deal.
Old 3rd January 2016
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I really like the way acidvoice went about conducting its TB303 evaluations
http://www.acidvoice.com/tb_303_vst_plugin_software.htm
Old 3rd January 2016
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ABL 3 demos sound very nice.
Old 3rd January 2016
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Just playing with the two right now (x0xb0x from willyzyx and abl3). Not doing a direct comparisson as running two through different distro boxes, but it's good enough to compliment the real deal imho. Personally, it's a vast improvement on ABL2.
Just checked the raw signals side by side on square wave, definately a huge difference, but then there's a disparity of sound when comparing boxes side by side irl.
ABL3 so far's a great substitute, but like everything nothings going to beat the real deal.

I am wondering what the difference is between the abl3 sequencer for triggering midi to a x0xbox, compared to Venom VB303 (which I've never got experimented enough with to work). IE the slurs etc over midi.
Old 3rd January 2016
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A very quick and basic comparisson of the ABL3 vs x0xb0x.
The same pattern triggered by midi from cubase to both soft synth and hardware.
Automation on software is more in time to my hardware tweaking, but it's a fairly reasonable comparison.
First four bars are static with all knobs far left.
I've done a screenshot so you can see what's happening at what point in time on the audio stems (may choose to upload each stem to your own daw for example).
Everything is reasonably level matched. So both units are set to max volume.
The stems start with all settings (Cutoff/Res/Env Mod/Decay/Accent) to 0/far left and increases over 2 bars for each, stays static for 2 bars then the next and so on, then the second half of the stem in reverse.

Hope this is of help to some people.







Downloads

ABL3 SAW https://www.dropbox.com/s/haa6wcw6is...20SAW.wav?dl=0

x0xb0x Saw https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1wcxsekgr...20SAW.wav?dl=0

ABL3 SQR https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0oy2kumb9...20SQR.wav?dl=0

x0xb0x SQR https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qyua2qbt4...20SQR.wav?dl=0

Screenshots

Tracks for reference
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wol3m75oo2...RACKS.jpg?dl=0

Mixer levels

https://www.dropbox.com/s/13rmltwe5f...MIXER.jpg?dl=0


Cubase Project if you really need it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/urqfqnqymg...0XBOX.cpr?dl=0



Pattern
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Last edited by mfx; 7th January 2016 at 09:18 AM..
Old 3rd January 2016 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfx View Post
I'd be interested in anyone can replicate the clicking issue that can be heard in the first two bars or so of the abl3 stems upto around 20 seconds. This replicates everytime on my system.
Windows10x64/Cubase8.5x64/RME Fireface800
Try disabling the clicking in the ABL3 Options panel.
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Originally Posted by lesha View Post
Try disabling the clicking in the ABL3 Options panel.
Thanks lesha, tried that doesn't resolve it. Also sqwitched off VCA Noise. Tested both VCA Click and VCA Noise combos with the VCO Mode.

Still clicks/audio spikes.
Old 4th January 2016 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfx View Post
A very quick and basic comparisson of the ABL3 vs x0xb0x.
The same pattern triggered by midi from cubase to both soft synth and hardware.
Automation on software is more in time to my hardware tweaking, but it's a fairly reasonable comparison.
First four bars are static with all knobs far left.
I've done a screenshot so you can see what's happening at what point in time on the audio stems (may choose to upload each stem to your own daw for example).
Everything is reasonably level matched. So both units are set to max volume.
The stems start with all settings (Cutoff/Res/Env Mod/Decay/Accent) to 0/far left and increases over 2 bars for each, stays static for 2 bars then the next and so on, then the second half of the stem in reverse.

The clicking you hear on the ABL3 is due to the software so there's a bug, my asio is fine (not spiking) and no audio clipping at the set points the clicks kick in.
Shorten the last note of each bar of your pattern. That removes the click.

I'm a beta tester for ABL3, so I'll make note of it with the beta-testers and Audiorealism.
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Originally Posted by DJMaytag View Post
Shorten the last note of each bar of your pattern. That removes the click.

I'm a beta tester for ABL3, so I'll make note of it with the beta-testers and Audiorealism.
Nice to know someones on the beta, took me 10 mins to pick this up was driving me nuts.

Will try your suggestion tomorrow. Thanks.
Old 4th January 2016 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by mfx View Post
A very quick and basic comparisson of the ABL3 vs x0xb0x.
The same pattern triggered by midi from cubase to both soft synth and hardware.
Automation on software is more in time to my hardware tweaking, but it's a fairly reasonable comparison.
First four bars are static with all knobs far left.
I've done a screenshot so you can see what's happening at what point in time on the audio stems (may choose to upload each stem to your own daw for example).
Everything is reasonably level matched. So both units are set to max volume.
The stems start with all settings (Cutoff/Res/Env Mod/Decay/Accent) to 0/far left and increases over 2 bars for each, stays static for 2 bars then the next and so on, then the second half of the stem in reverse.

The clicking you hear on the ABL3 is due to the software so there's a bug, my asio is fine (not spiking) and no audio clipping at the set points the clicks kick in.

Hope this is of help to some people.







Downloads

ABL3 SAW https://www.dropbox.com/s/haa6wcw6is...20SAW.wav?dl=0

x0xb0x Saw https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1wcxsekgr...20SAW.wav?dl=0

ABL3 SQR https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0oy2kumb9...20SQR.wav?dl=0

x0xb0x SQR https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qyua2qbt4...20SQR.wav?dl=0

Screenshots

Tracks for reference
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wol3m75oo2...RACKS.jpg?dl=0

Mixer levels

https://www.dropbox.com/s/13rmltwe5f...MIXER.jpg?dl=0

Clicking

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2mt8uibqs4...%2002.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kduoii7gys...%2001.jpg?dl=0

Cubase Project if you really need it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/urqfqnqymg...0XBOX.cpr?dl=0

I'd be interested in anyone can replicate the clicking issue that can be heard in the first two bars or so of the abl3 stems upto around 20 seconds. This replicates everytime on my system.
Windows10x64/Cubase8.5x64/RME Fireface800

Pattern
cheers
Old 4th January 2016
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Updated the abl3 audio examples to remove the clicking. Workaround by shortening the last midi note in the bar by 128. Smooth, thanks for suggestion.
Old 5th January 2016
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Is midi output supported/working in this release ? ( specifically under Live/Osx). Thnks.
Old 5th January 2016
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from description

"Able acid with delay by Tantra, reverb by Tal, overdrive by 2x P&M Analogue and extra boom by Clarisonix. Allerton Live and Push. HP S230tm touch display. Recorded using a Sony Xperia Z2 (gives weird ambience but I like it!)"

Im having lots of fun with it! I hope my ears can handle it ... it screams like crazy with a little overdrive
Old 5th January 2016
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How does it compare to the Roland TB-3?

I'm running the demo and the CPU load is comparable to Roland's recent plug-out VSTs so I guess the horsepower requirements between the TB-3 and ABL-3 are roughly similar.
Old 5th January 2016
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The TB-3's accents are static so two or three in a row sounds the same (unless it has been updated or I've heard wrong information). The emulation of this where a second accents goes wild and the third even wilder is to me what really makes the 303 special. It's like a beast trying to escape a cage. Thrilling, powerful and scary at the same time! If the TB-3 would sound like ABL 3 I would probably buy it. However, as you can see, touch and push work really well together!
Old 7th January 2016
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I made a short ABL3 demo, hope you enjoy! : https://youtu.be/WeenXDkSwyw

Old 8th January 2016 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfx View Post
A very quick and basic comparisson of the ABL3 vs x0xb0x.
The same pattern triggered by midi from cubase to both soft synth and hardware.
Automation on software is more in time to my hardware tweaking, but it's a fairly reasonable comparison.
First four bars are static with all knobs far left.
I've done a screenshot so you can see what's happening at what point in time on the audio stems (may choose to upload each stem to your own daw for example).
Everything is reasonably level matched. So both units are set to max volume.
The stems start with all settings (Cutoff/Res/Env Mod/Decay/Accent) to 0/far left and increases over 2 bars for each, stays static for 2 bars then the next and so on, then the second half of the stem in reverse.
Thanks for this. They sound quite different to my ears, especially the square wave - I much prefer the Xoxbox square, it seems to have this kind of almost compressed quality to it that analog synths have, you notice when comparing to soft synths. The saw is bit closer, though the Xoxbox seems to be brighter. Also ABL was much louder in this instance. Not too bad this Abl it seems, might demo it and compare to my friends hw 303 (lucky bastard!)
Old 8th January 2016
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Is there a "swing" feature?

- c
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Thanks for this. They sound quite different to my ears, especially the square wave - I much prefer the Xoxbox square, it seems to have this kind of almost compressed quality to it that analog synths have, you notice when comparing to soft synths. The saw is bit closer, though the Xoxbox seems to be brighter. Also ABL was much louder in this instance. Not too bad this Abl it seems, might demo it and compare to my friends hw 303 (lucky bastard!)


Thanks, hopefully it helps a few people.

IT's pretty close once in the mix and good to compliment.

As for TB303, never heard one irl and quite happy with the x0xB for my needs...although the Avalon bassline synth has my interest, jut not my current residual budget!
Old 9th January 2016 | Show parent
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Is there a "swing" feature?
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Nope! Hoping for implimentation, drive and distortion have been dropped over ABL2 (sure a few users will be upset). Do wonder if it's going to be bought back?

Saying that running this through SlyFi Kaya, Deflector and some Soundtoys Echoboy is very nice.

None the less the upgrade runs ABL 2.9 and ABL 3 side by side nicely.

Midi out is very useful. Random on the sequencer is fun! Still learning andplaying tbh.
Old 9th January 2016
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Big step up from 2 to my ears. The randomise/create pattern to a given key is something I asked for a long time ago, v. happy to see it
Old 9th January 2016
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loving this update. took 5 min of reading the manual and now i know it inside out. it can get so many different 303 sounds. from really twsted bunker records style stuff & classic chicago cheekiness. i made a cover of phuture - your only friend (cocaine) with ease! this thing sounds so right. one more nail in the coffin. for my GAS.. kudos to audiorealism
Old 11th January 2016
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Do the settings on "Randomizer View" apply on the "Random"-button on the "Classic View"?
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Do the settings on "Randomizer View" apply on the "Random"-button on the "Classic View"?
+303
Old 13th January 2016
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Sounds amazing, hats off to Audiorealism
Old 16th January 2016
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Export midifile from 303 to host then add swing
Old 17th January 2016
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nice
Old 17th January 2016
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Angry

Every 303 emulation needs to be banned and put in jail for promoting drug use. Think how many people have been smacked off their heads listening to this machine. We must stop this now.
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