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flundstrom2 16th February 2015 10:54 AM

Using 5 cymbals on Roland TD-11
 
The Roland TD-11K entry-level kit ships with 2 cymbals, but - as I've shown in a previous article - it can easily be extended with a third cymbal. However, there are some gems in the TD-11 that allows it to add a fourth and fifth cymbal.


In an earlier post, I've shown how to configure an input to provide two completely unrelated sounds when the surface or edge is struck. This feature can be exploited to add more sounds to the kit, by sacrificing the dynamics. To be fair, this article is about adding more sounds, rather than adding more cymbal pads.

By disabling the LINK feature for the left crash cymbal, it is easy to add a second - unrelated - sound to the edge trigger of that cymbal, similarly to how I described adding a cowbell on the bow of the right crash cymbal.

I chose to select two fairly similar sounds, the 16" Paper Cr sound on the bow of the cymbal, and 10" Med 1 Splash on the edge. The reason for choosing two fairly similar sounds was that I found it hard to position and angle the cymbal in a way that minimized the risk of triggering the wrong sound.

With this setup, it doesn't matter if I accidentally trigger the wrong sound. By striking the cymbal on the two different zones, I can still produce two sounds that still are noticeable different.

So far, so good. So what about the fifth cymbal? You've probably guessed it - use the Ride cymbal input!

As I've mentioned, the TD-11 module allows both bow, edge and bell sounds, using a three-zone cymbal such as the CY-13R. By disabling the LINK and reconfiguring the edge of the ride cymbal, it is possible to make it sound as a different cymbal.

I've managed to find a position and angle of the cymbal that makes it hard to strike the wrong zone, so I've chosen to use the Piggy Cr sound for the edge, which is very distinct and different than any other sound in my configuration.

I decided to use the 20" Custom Rd on the bow, and its corresponding 20" Custom RdB on the bell. But you might as well want to use the Cowbell on the ride's bow instead of the right crash's bow - or something completely different!

To conclude: My TD-11K has now been expanded to support playing
  • Hi-hat
  • Snare drum
  • High Tom
  • Middle Tom
  • Low Tom
  • Ride
  • Piggy Crash
  • Paper Crash
  • Fast Crash
  • Splash
  • Cowbell
  • Kick drum
And most of this work is done by simply reconfiguring the kit! Quite impressive for a €1.200 kit, don't you think? And this technique can even be applied to its bigger brothers, the TD-11KV, TD-15K/KV, TD-30K/KV kits, too!

So far, there is a few steps to take before the kit is as large as Neil Peart's, but I have some ideas that's worth trying out in a future article.

But until then, go on, experiment until you find a combination that fits your playing style!

(And for your simplicity, the entire kit configuration is available here)

doggyd69b 11th April 2019 06:37 PM

You can actually use extra pads, I have the TD-11 with 7 cymbals 4 toms , snare and bass drum. How did I do that you may ask.... simple I built my own splitters, a lot of us don't need to use the rim zone on the toms, so lucky for us the TD-11 module allows you to separate head and rim zones (unlink is what they call it), once you do that, you can put a splitter cable with the female end connected to TOM 1 cable from the Roland cable snake, on the other side of that splitter cable you have two male ends, one goes to the tom one (head sound), the other can go to a new cymbal pad, if you do it that way, you can add 3 extra cymbals for a total of 7 cymbals (HH, crash , ride which come with the module, plus 3 cymbals, one for every tom, and there is another cymbal plug physically in the module) that is a total of 7 cymbals and for the 4th tom, you can use the extra ride cable (if you don't have a 3 zone ride). so my current setup has HH, crash, crash, splash, splash, china and ride. plus 4 toms, snare and bass drum. mind you, there is no need to build your own splitters you can find them on Ebay for about $15 each, just make sure they are E-drum splitters as the regular audio splitters are built differently internally so they might not work correctly. finally use the aux input to plug in your phone or music source, and you can play along any song you want, also you can use a regular audio splitter this time for the headphone output, one goes to your headphones, the second one goes to a camera (if your camera has mic input) or to a headphone amplifier, that way you can feed that one output, and have for example 4 outputs from the headphone amplifier to feed 4 cameras for a multi angle drum cover, or just so that your bandmates can hear you and play at the same time in very low volume scenarios, the possibilites are endless, if you get into the input output connection rabbit hole. just my 2 cents.