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The Press Desk 21st January 2015 02:25 AM

NAMM 2015: AVID Pro Tools 12
 

Avid today announced Pro Tools® 12, the next generation of the industry-standard digital audio software. Featuring new flexible licensing options, Pro Tools 12 delivers on Avid's commitment to customer choice, a key element of Avid Everywhere™. The company also announced new innovations to support artist collaboration and content distribution with Avid Cloud Collaboration and new services in the Avid Marketplace.

"These new innovations demonstrate our commitment to providing audio customers with the choice, power, and flexibility they need to create the highest quality music and audio," said Chris Gahagan, senior vice president of Products and Technology at Avid. "With Pro Tools 12, audio professionals can now access the software in more ways than ever. They can find new talent and plugins, and get wide exposure for their work via the Avid Marketplace. And with the upcoming Avid Cloud Collaboration, customers will be able to create, connect, and collaborate in unprecedented new ways."
Flexible Licensing Options in Pro Tools 12
Pro Tools 12 delivers new flexible licensing options, allowing customers to subscribe by as little as $29.99 per month, or to buy it outright. With these new options, users can stay current with future software updates and innovations as soon as they are released via the cloud, at no additional charge. This flexible licensing now provides artists with access to the same tools used by the top industry pros, at a price point they can afford.

Avid Cloud Collaboration
Avid Cloud Collaboration, initially to be accessed by Pro Tools users with others to follow, is a groundbreaking set of collaboration capabilities that enable artists to compose, record, edit, and mix sessions working with other Pro Tools users in the cloud, as if they are all together in the same studio. They simply invite other artists to collaborate on a session using built-in chat, or find new collaborators through the new Avid Marketplace Artist Community. If the person they want to work with doesn't already have Pro Tools, they can simply download Pro Tools | First to start working together immediately.
Key benefits and features of Avid Cloud Collaboration for Pro Tools include:

Secure and hassle-free setup: Post sessions to your own cloud storage space and invite others to collaborate
Fully integrated collaboration: Work on the same session at the same time or create offline and share updates directly within Pro Tools

Comprehensive workflows: Share audio and MIDI tracks, edits, mix changes, automation, and more
Simplified project and media management: Keep track of all contributors and version changes with automatic and fully customizable metadata tagging
Built-in communication tools: Engage with collaborators through text or video chat directly from within Pro Tools
Avid Marketplace

The Avid Marketplace invites Pro Tools users to engage in a community of artists, acquire new plug-ins and apps as they need them, and easily store and share their work on a global platform.

The Avid Marketplace enables artists and professionals to:
Find new talent and start new collaborations: With the Artist Community, any media professional and organization can search for the skills and specialties they need on a project, and start a working relationship.

Get plug-ins and apps immediately: With the Avid App Store, artists can find and immediately download the latest plug-ins and applications directly from within their creative tools.
Store and share their work with the world: The Avid Content Marketplace provides a new channel for artists to monetize their work by sharing it with a wide network of potential purchasers – with all licensing and rights agreements worked out through automatic templates.

Avid also announced that 17 new plug-ins and nine new plug-in bundles are now available in the Avid Marketplace and as in-app purchases in Pro Tools. There are now over 60 Avid plug-ins and bundles available for in-app purchase for Pro Tools | First, Pro Tools, and Pro Tools | HD. The new bundles include:
Eleven Effects Bundle — A collection of 17 Avid AAX Native, DSP and AudioSuite 64-bit plug-in effects modeled after circuitry and design of many popular analog "stomp-box" guitar effects.

Pro Series Bundle — Includes all five of the popular Avid Pro Series processors in AAX Native, DSP and AudioSuite 64-bit format as a single bundle at over 50% savings.
First Distortion Bundle, First Reverb Delay Bundle, First Guitar Bass Bundle, First Modulation Bundle, First EQ Dynamics Bundle, First AIR Effects Bundle, and First Air Instruments Bundle — Include selections from the new Eleven Effects and other Avid plug-ins, allowing Pro Tools | First users to access the professional creative tools they need to create richer sounding, more complex mixes.

Availability and Pricing
Pro Tools software subscription and licensing options will be available in February 2015.
Pro Tools software monthly subscription (one-month license subscription with updates and support) starts at $29.99/month
Pro Tools software annual upgrade plan (12 months of updates and support) starts at $199
Pro Tools software annual subscription (12-month license subscription with updates and support) starts at $299
Perpetual licenses for Pro Tools software (includes 12 months of updates and support) start at $899
The new plug-ins and bundles are now available as in-app purchases within Pro Tools via the Avid Marketplace.

heraldo_jones 21st January 2015 02:38 AM

Let's hope about the improvements. Also I bought PT10 with the student program and got the PT11 for free, I assume I will get also PT12 at no cost, true?

MoonMusic 21st January 2015 02:45 AM

I hope they added a freeze function....Not sure that would work in a HDX system though......

Kcatthedog 21st January 2015 02:56 AM

No offense but I am so friggin tired of avid and the inequities of its pricing crap !

lukehatpadl 21st January 2015 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonMusic (Post 10739171)
I hope they added a freeze function....Not sure that would work in a HDX system though......

No different to offline bounce, in the sense that it should also work on HDX (by using the native plugin instead).

elambo 21st January 2015 02:59 AM

Everything I need to compose, record, edit and mix? So they fixed the record input bug which still remains in PT10? And the delay compensation issue which remains in both 10 and 11? That's great news! Now they'll be able to go back and fix PT11, too, since it's still current. Exciting times.

(oh... they're *not* going to do that? huh, that seems odd)

classictunz 21st January 2015 03:24 AM

Anyone know how much the new subscription cost?

Deleted d44e7f2 21st January 2015 03:51 AM

I'm still trying to become fully functional with 11 :/

McWreckinBall 21st January 2015 03:55 AM

lol... I will not be stopping by the Avid booth this year. I'm afraid I'd lose my cool and go off on someone if I did.

Arichlsss 21st January 2015 04:15 AM

Yep 11 sucked, I bought it and couldn't get it to work stable so back to cubase I went.

Doctorgun 21st January 2015 04:22 AM

People still use Pro Tools?

nickelironsteel 21st January 2015 04:33 AM

as long as they are the only company that work with a custom audio driver that is rock solid, not core audio, they are staying around

bgrotto 21st January 2015 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctorgun (Post 10739385)
People still use Pro Tools?

Naaaah. 'Course not.

JCBigler 21st January 2015 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deleted d44e7f2 (Post 10739326)
I'm still trying to become fully functional with 11 :/

I've been using PT 11 exclusively since October 2013 with very few issues. But, I do only live recording of symphony and opera performances and do not use VIs or do music composing and overdubbing with low to zero latency.

bgrotto 21st January 2015 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCBigler (Post 10739406)
I've been using PT 11 exclusively since October 2013 with very few issues. But, I do only live recording of symphony and opera performances and do not use VIs or do music composing and overdubbing with low to zero latency.

kfhkh

I've been on PT11 since around the same time. Run it on Mavericks with no issues, and I do rock and pop production mostly. Big sessions, lots of overdubs. Mixing with a lot of outboard and a lot of plugins.

sam guaiana 21st January 2015 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgrotto (Post 10739415)
kfhkh

I've been on PT11 since around the same time. Run it on Mavericks with no issues, and I do rock and pop production mostly. Big sessions, lots of overdubs. Mixing with a lot of outboard and a lot of plugins.

All I need is VCC and I'm set. It sucks that a cool, fairly useful plugin I use is the straw that breaks my 64 bit back

gtrm8kr 21st January 2015 05:02 AM

Hopefully this is true. Work on 11 has seemed to grind to a halt over the past several months.

bgrotto 21st January 2015 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrm8kr (Post 10739446)
Hopefully this is true. Work on 11 has seemed to grind to a halt over the past several months.

I think they just released an update a few days ago, fyi. 11.3.

RightOnRome 21st January 2015 05:17 AM

no thanks ..10 is fine for now

World Studios 21st January 2015 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elambo (Post 10739211)
Everything I need to compose, record, edit and mix? So they fixed the record input bug which still remains in PT10? And the delay compensation issue which remains in both 10 and 11? That's great news! Now they'll be able to go back and fix PT11, too, since it's still current. Exciting times.

Here's hoping. Delay compensation issues has been driving me up the wall the past year.

hw2nw 21st January 2015 08:08 AM

12? Avid slow your roll!

HOLOSONIX 21st January 2015 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctorgun (Post 10739385)
People still use Pro Tools?

^THIS

cheu78 21st January 2015 08:28 AM

I really can't understand why these companies (Avid, but not only them of course..Apple and other brands comes to mind) have to come up with new crap every year.. ??? confoosed

What I mean is PREPARE/BUILD your product with care and then you could announce it and eventually sell it...when it's READY and works as it's supposed to do..not before!

I don' t understand the run to the new version.. why?? If you have to put out a PT12 after this short period time after the previous one..it means something is consistently wrong with the previous one...which means that you should have spent more time doing YOUR homework and developing your product.

Believe it or not I do like protools (or maybe its diffusion, since I often work in different studios around the world), but I'm fed up with this new releases craziness.
Make something STABLE that will LAST for some time..stop this BS please.

Just my 0.02$,

howdy

Cheu

Voyager85 21st January 2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheu78 (Post 10739751)
I really can't understand why these companies (Avid, but not only them of course..Apple and other brands comes to mind) have to come up with new crap every year.. ??? confoosed

What I mean is PREPARE/BUILD your product with care and then you could announce it and eventually sell it...when it's READY and works as it's supposed to do..not before!

I don' t understand the run to the new version.. why?? If you have to put out a PT12 after this short period time after the previous one..it means something is consistently wrong with the previous one...which means that you should have spent more time doing YOUR homework and developing your product.

Believe it or not I do like protools (or maybe its diffusion, since I often work in different studios around the world), but I'm fed up with this new releases craziness.
Make something STABLE that will LAST for some time..stop this BS please.

Just my 0.02$,

howdy

Cheu

^THIS!

Mikey MTC 21st January 2015 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheu78 (Post 10739751)
I really can't understand why these companies (Avid, but not only them of course..Apple and other brands comes to mind) have to come up with new crap every year.. ??? confoosed

It's hard to say this without it being taken the wrong way, but I'm thinking they need to continually sell stuff to make money to stay in business. Surely it's no more complicated than that. Development can never stop or so does the money.

Pro Tools is still ubiquitous in the studio game which of course is a blessing to Avid, but they still need to find ways to either get new people to buy it or get existing customers to upgrade it - on an ongoing basis. It's a bloody tough gig!

Kcatthedog 21st January 2015 10:02 AM

12= no bugs ???
 
Where did avid say 12 fixes all previous bugs ?

thehightenor 21st January 2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey MTC (Post 10739816)
It's hard to say this without it being taken the wrong way, but I'm thinking they need to continually sell stuff to make money to stay in business. Surely it's no more complicated than that. Development can never stop or so does the money.

Pro Tools is still ubiquitous in the studio game which of course is a blessing to Avid, but they still need to find ways to either get new people to buy it or get existing customers to upgrade it - on an ongoing basis. It's a bloody tough gig!

Exactly correct.

Avid staff have their monthly bills to pay same as everyone else. All companies be it washing powder to TV's to computers to DAW's offer a MK2 better than last years MK1.

Even if just teach guitar you need your student to return the following week.

The only way around this would be a subscription model, that meant you bought the software and then payed (say) $50 per month to have it de-bugged and maintained with the latest OS's, plugins etc.

I have always thought, never begrudge someone making a living and then people won't begrudge you making a living.

I use Cubase as it happens and I'm more than happy to pay a sensible/ proportionate amount of money per month/year to keep using it and earning money with it!

cheu78 21st January 2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey MTC (Post 10739816)
It's hard to say this without it being taken the wrong way, but I'm thinking they need to continually sell stuff to make money to stay in business. Surely it's no more complicated than that. Development can never stop or so does the money.

Pro Tools is still ubiquitous in the studio game which of course is a blessing to Avid, but they still need to find ways to either get new people to buy it or get existing customers to upgrade it - on an ongoing basis. It's a bloody tough gig!

I understand that.. Is good to have development, but should be reasonable.

but if you build/make something that WORKS and it's competitive from a price/features/quality..guess what? People will buy it.. heh and will like it.. and will talk with other people about how great is XY product.

Every business, big or small is though. These companies should commit before begging for more $ with the development stratagem.

What about a company selling drums? Easy? I don't think so.. and they can't force their customers to upgrade..

Just my 0.02$,

howdy

Cheu

Alekto 21st January 2015 12:29 PM

FFS Avid. Just support VST and we'd all be happy.

jswitch 21st January 2015 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheu78 (Post 10739751)
I really can't understand why these companies (Avid, but not only them of course..Apple and other brands comes to mind) have to come up with new crap every year.. ??? confoosed

Are you even a Logic user?
Logic had a gap for about 4 years between version 9 and 10.
And that upgrade was minimal at best. If only Apple did what you say it does way more people would've have been satisfied I think.