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bunratty 10th September 2014 07:21 PM

Monitor controllers with separate volume knob for aux input
 
I'm wondering what options are available for higher end monitor controllers that have a controllable auxiliary input volume. I'd like to blend the direct signal from my preamps with the DAW playback while overdubbing, and have a nice easy volume knob control for the vocal signal ( or what ever I'm overdubbing ) coming from the patch bay (pre DAW).

I've checked with support at Dangerous Audio and Burl Audio, and none of their products do this. The one I've found so far that does it is the SPL MTC, but I've heard mixed reviews on it.

Would appreciate any ideas you may have.

Deleted 7f9cade 11th September 2014 06:56 AM

I understand you are talking about high end gear, but is the feature you're talking about something like the "Blend" or "Mix" knob on the Mbox or other USB interfaces?

I think the trick with those entry level boxes is that the monitoring, preamps, and conversion all happen under the same hood. Thats how they can blend the sound of the input of the preamps and balance that with the output from the DAW.

In theory this could be done but don't think any high end box has this feature.

You would need to "Mult" the signal from preamps so they could reach both the Multitrack or DAW AND reach the monitor controller in order for it to blend the preamp signal with the playback. Easy enough if you only have 2 inputs but on a higher channel count rig in the 24+ range. That would be alot of extra cables and inputs

Still a good idea.

psycho_monkey 11th September 2014 08:14 AM

Because most interfaces have a software cue mixer to do this? Generally a more flexible option.

Jules 11th September 2014 08:16 AM

Is the delay (Latency) of the conversion feel bad for you? (or the performers)

superwack 11th September 2014 09:30 AM

Check out the Coleman QS8 I think it does what you want

bunratty 11th September 2014 09:15 PM

Great, thanks a lot for the ideas. Right now I'm taking a mult from my patch bay and running it into a small mixer and blending it with the output of my audio interface (a cranesong hedd with raydat pcie). My mixer is awful sounding though. Just hoping to take my game up a notch. I'm now thinking I will just get a decent monitor controller and attenuate the direct signal to an aux by putting either the small mixer, or my little labs multi z in the path. Not sure why I'm so obsessed with monitoring my inputs, the software cue mix does sound fine too. But when recording vocals, especially, it's nice to have that pure feedback. Thanks for your thoughts on it.