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jazzy655 24th May 2006 05:48 AM

making things LESS punchy
 
Now that i've learned to pick phatter and fuller drum sounds from the start, i'm finding myself more and more making drums less punchy. I've really spent a lot of sweat learning how to use compression. i've studied great recordings to check out the compression, even to the point where i'm trying to hear what compressors are being used and what time settings are used. i used to be a the kinda guy who eq'd to death, but now that i'm getting a good grasp on compression, i don't reach from eq nearly as much.

anyways back on topic. i was curious how many of you guys find yourselves taking some attack off of drums? and what compressors are you loving for this task?
i'm big on the 1176 right now. i just dig the way it operates.

oh yeah, check out the GateComp that comes with the UAD cards. MAN instant punchy snares.

holla back

Raggedy 24th May 2006 08:53 AM

Software comps can be good for taking the crack out of the attack, since they can be faster than hardware comps. But I do like my Distressor, too.

And it sounds to me like you'd LOVE the SPL Transient Designer. It's on my short list.

Van-C 24th May 2006 10:04 AM

SPL Transient Designer is MAGIC on drums!!

You can really play with the attack and release of your sounds and get very good results in a matter of seconds.

frans 24th May 2006 10:18 AM

How about letting the drummer play softer? Or did you just mean what to do in the mix?

jazzy655 24th May 2006 03:16 PM

yeah i was talking about in the mix. Hip hop also, so no drummerthumbsup

I gotta check for that transient designer. i know it's not too expensive. waves makes a plugin that does that same kinda thing right? cant remember the name though...

Fredrik 24th May 2006 06:20 PM

If you are using a sampler, adjusting the attack and maybe the decay will give you similar results as transient designer as long as you want to get rid of the transient. Other than that on the pluginside you have transx by waves that is as good or better that transient designer in my opinion (more options).

Igotsoul4u 24th May 2006 07:03 PM

My favorite thing about the 1176 is messing with the release to get some nice pumping going on. I try to get the release timed so that the meter hits zero within a quarter or eigth note of the tempo. I use the attack as I normally would to eat up the intital attack or preserve it.

Raggedy 24th May 2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzy655
I gotta check for that transient designer. i know it's not too expensive. waves makes a plugin that does that same kinda thing right? cant remember the name though...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik
on the pluginside you have transx by waves that is as good or better that transient designer in my opinion (more options)

There's also the TransMod by Sony. Both the plugs can be cool and do have more tweakability, but to me, the SPL just has that... I dunno, that extra little something. Maybe it's the hardware vs. plug thing, but the SPL seems to just work better. Plus, isn't it always better to get the signal right before going into the box? And as a bonus, the SPL can, in many cases, replace a compressor on the front end. kfhkh

cynic one 24th May 2006 08:12 PM

transient designer kicks ass.

i have the creamware pulsar plugin. one of my secret weapons :)

Sirocco 26th May 2006 03:58 AM

if ur in the digital realm check out:
waves trans-x
voxengo transmodder
voxengo marquis