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decibike 4th May 2011 12:21 AM

talk talk spirit of eden
 
thanks for doing a Q & A mr Brown,

Could you share some stories on how Talk Talks brilliant album Spirit of Eden was made? Lots of room mics and bleed? What was the ratio between live takes of the band and overdubs ?

maraisdecygnes 4th May 2011 12:52 AM

Hello Phil,
Thank you for doing the Q&A.

Was the legendary Roland Jupiter 8 the main keyboard/synth on this Talk Talk Album ?

All the best, James

DJamesGoody 4th May 2011 04:31 AM

Just wanted to add that this and Laughingstock are my two alltime faves, and the two reasons that I make records for a living. Thank you Phill.

jeremyglover 4th May 2011 08:54 AM

i heard this album for the first time last year and it's been on constantly ever since. it's truly amazing in every way.

phill brown 5th May 2011 07:42 PM

There are a couple of chapters on Talk Talk in Are We Still Rolling?.
Everything was recorded individually - no 'band' takes - all overdubbed - started with drums recorded to a human time keeper. Then months of overdubs. Distant positioning on microphones on most instruments. Drums - Neumann 'Head' mic just in front of the kit, and some contact mic's on toms. But most other instruments are 4 - 6 feet away from mics - on Laughing Stock the drum mic was a Nuemann U47 at about 28 feet from the kit. We worked in almost total darkness, running 5 X Studar 24 tracks machines, no EQ, little compression, unique experience....

polf 5th May 2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by phill brown (Post 6612327)
Everything was recorded individually - no 'band' takes - all overdubbed -

Hello,

Was there any particular reason to work this way?

and did it present any problems in capturing the atmosphere of a band performance? - well obviously not because it sounds amazing!

and no eq!!

beautiful.

phill brown 9th May 2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by decibike (Post 6606622)
thanks for doing a Q & A mr Brown,

Could you share some stories on how Talk Talks brilliant album Spirit of Eden was made? Lots of room mics and bleed? What was the ratio between live takes of the band and overdubs ?

sorry - thought I had replied. 2 chapters in Are We still Rolling? regarding the recording of SoE and Laughing Stock. Briefly - each; a year in the studio, in the dark, no EQ, little compression, 48 track analogue Studar A800, plus a Mitsubishi 32 track digital, plus 5 X slave analogue reels. Distant room mic's, everything overdubbed, no band tracks,

phill brown 9th May 2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maraisdecygnes (Post 6606709)
Hello Phil,
Thank you for doing the Q&A.

Was the legendary Roland Jupiter 8 the main keyboard/synth on this Talk Talk Album ?

All the best, James

No Synths or electric keyboards - its all Harmoniums, Hammond, Variaphon, Leslie, Shozygs.

phill brown 9th May 2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJamesGoody (Post 6607240)
Just wanted to add that this and Laughingstock are my two alltime faves, and the two reasons that I make records for a living. Thank you Phill.

Thank you

phill brown 9th May 2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by polf (Post 6613012)
Hello,

Was there any particular reason to work this way?

and did it present any problems in capturing the atmosphere of a band performance? - well obviously not because it sounds amazing!

and no eq!!

beautiful.

Read Are We still Rolling? for the details - but it came about from a comment I made = 11am November 1967 - and Lee's enjoyment of 'atmospheric lighting'. After a few weeks it became the norm - most musicians inspired - some put off - some freaked...

phill brown 9th May 2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polf (Post 6613012)
Hello,

Was there any particular reason to work this way?

and did it present any problems in capturing the atmosphere of a band performance? - well obviously not because it sounds amazing!

and no eq!!

beautiful.

No plan - no demo's - no lyrics. We started with 8 drum patterns - and once mastered overdubbed everything else. We never discussed a way to work...