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mamero 28th March 2011 07:49 AM

The Official Roland Jupiter-80 Thread
 
After reading some brief posts and coming across the below link it looks official. Roland will release the Jupiter-80 at MusikMesse. Let this be a thread dedicated to this new synthesizer. I've already started saving my pennies and unloading gear. The Jupiter-80 has pretty big shoes to fill. I'm sure Roland is aware of the legacy and potential skeptics in this release. My initial thoughts are those expecting a Jupiter-8 re-issue will be disappointed. For those looking for a synthesizer reminiscent of a Jupiter that will take them in to the future, then this could be it. Time will tell in the next few days. Needless to say, it will get plenty of attention at the show one way or the other. I'm very excited!

Roland Set To Release New Jupiter Keyboard At Messe |

Feedbag 28th March 2011 08:19 AM

No way I'm unloading any of my gear yet, I'm going to give it at least a couple months before I even consider it; I'll let everybody else test it out first heh


I'm pretty curious about it though.....

bizness80 28th March 2011 08:42 AM

Dude, you're off by like 5 days.....heh

Hossegor 28th March 2011 08:42 AM

it will be some ****ty VA, with some rompler stuff in it. Maybe with a D Beam control...dfegad

volumetrik 28th March 2011 09:37 AM

Didn't Roland lose the right to the Jupiter name? I've heard that so many times..

seen-da-sizer 28th March 2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizness80 (Post 6479257)
Dude, you're off by like 5 days.....heh

You beat me to it! April fools day is just around the corner. heh



I hope it is a expanded version of the Gaia that includes multi timbrality at a reasonable price. The Gaia haters are going all over this... boing

Ready, set, go, and wait to be disappointed. heh

Deleted User 28th March 2011 10:06 AM

It will have a touchscreen. Users on the Roland clan forum hope it will have the ARX expansion capability.

It will supposedly have the colour scheme of the Jupiter, much like Roland did with the Juno-D and G but don't expect the main panel to be laden with knobs and sliders like ye olde original!

Spectral Climax 28th March 2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamero (Post 6479172)

"a new Jupiter keyboard by Roland"...I will be very happy if this means a new VA with detailed sound and proper interface, but, this is already a sci-fi scenario IMO...Roland has destroyed many of their famous product names by re-introducing them as cost effective generic solutions with mediocre sound...I really doubt about a new Jupiter synth, let alone an analog one! They have passed to the other side...this means digital technology and mass production. I mean, their best effort in retro styled synthesis in recent years, was GAIA...hidz

explorer 28th March 2011 10:23 AM

I think the best we can hope for is an updated JP8000... abduction

Spectral Climax 28th March 2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by explorer (Post 6479393)
I think the best we can hope for is an updated JP8000... abduction

It seems that they have abandoned their JP8000 code... GAIA sounds different and it was nothing with today's processing power to use that old code. From another point, they already have a VA...why doing it again? I don't know...maybe GAIA is a sign that they will go with something different...

flat 28th March 2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by explorer (Post 6479393)
I think the best we can hope for is an updated JP8000... abduction

I really hope not. The JP8000 and all that offsprung from it was imo their worst moment. I'm not at all interested in them trying to resurrect the past either.

I hope its something entirely new. freshflowe

grumphh 28th March 2011 10:53 AM

As long as it doesn't sound as generic as the original they can do what they like with that name...









heh

bizness80 28th March 2011 10:57 AM

Maybe it's a hastily put together answer to the Korg Kronos?

Or have they done that already?

dfegadhttp://www.onlineshop.musiccentre.co...nd-logo_s.jpeg

golden beers 28th March 2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumphh (Post 6479436)
As long as it doesn't sound as generic as the original they can do what they like with that name...









heh


a bad workman blames his tools

grumphh 28th March 2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden beers (Post 6479464)
a bad workman blames his tools

Did i put blame on the JP8?

...seen as a tool, if anything it is the perfect tool for generic sounding music - just look at its use in the 80's...

Deleted User 28th March 2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat earth (Post 6479409)
I hope its something entirely new. freshflowe

Like a VA perhaps...

Don Solaris 28th March 2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden beers (Post 6479464)
a bad workman blames his tools

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6987/rotfl.gif http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6987/rotfl.gifhttp://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6987/rotfl.gif

thumbsup thumbsup


(minus the spilled cocoa drink on my hands)

golden beers 28th March 2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumphh (Post 6479488)
Did i put blame on the JP8?

...seen as a tool, if anything it is the perfect tool for generic sounding music - just look at its use in the 80's...

if there's an 80's tool around here, it's you mateheh

kilon 28th March 2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden beers (Post 6479464)
a bad workman blames his tools

a great workman blames them even more.

The ability to pin point the flaws on a tool and seperate them from flaws of use , is a skill by itself. And a skill that should be exercised from day 1.

Its known as "crytical thinking". Its only this ways, that one can find the right role for his tool and create a setup that is balanced, effective and pleaserable to use.

Sticking into the logic that "its only my fault" can be as dangerous as the "holy grail" obsession.

Regarding the new Jupiter, I dont see roland using the A word just yet. But will have to wait an see whats under the table. Jupiter 8 is certainly as many other synths , hyped to death synth, I am sure we are going to see many "but it does not sound as good as the original" threads and many other complaints. But the very fact that Roland is going back to revive it, is good news by itself.

muziksculp 28th March 2011 12:23 PM

My guess is that the new Roland Jupiter 80 is their next generation workstation, and has nothing to do with the original Jupiter 8 analog synth.

I might be wrong, but Roland is surely lagging behind Yamaha and Korg as far as workstations are concerned.

Roland recently released the Gaia Synth, so I doubt that they are going to release another VA synth, and just call it Jupiter 80 heh

flat 28th March 2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn303 (Post 6479493)
Like a VA perhaps...

..well, yes I guess, but hopefully designed from scratch. (ie not re-packaged past/existing products). thumbsup

grumphh 28th March 2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden beers (Post 6479500)
if there's an 80's tool around here, it's you mateheh

Hey, i am from the 60's... heh

Don Solaris 28th March 2011 12:56 PM

I no longer pay any attention to Roland announcements. They all come the same, and end the same (read: very disappointing).







Disclaimer (after a PM being called a Roland hater): No i'm not a Roland hater (google is your friend). In fact i own about every Roland analogue you can think of (minus system 700/100...) as well as nice selection of their vintage digitals. But i draw a line between the quality and cheap garbage. So please, spare me...

volumetrik 28th March 2011 01:21 PM

Its not going to be a workstation, 'Jupiter-80' is not fitting for a workstation, it'll most likely be based on the old Jupiter but VA and 64-voice or more polyphony...I just reckon it will be a DCO synth

muziksculp 28th March 2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volumetrik (Post 6479675)
Its not going to be a workstation, 'Jupiter-80' is not fitting for a workstation, it'll most likely be based on the old Jupiter but VA and 64-voice or more polyphony...I just reckon it will be a DCO synth

Maybe Yes, Maybe No heh

But... We will surely find out on April 6th.

wladymeer 28th March 2011 01:45 PM

And their support (including OS update) for new product lasts for... 6 months?

I am slightly shocked how fast Roland did respond to Korg's challenge. And am affraid that this might be product that wasn't expected to come out so fast. And of course, final result is that many of planned spec will probably have to be halved, excluded and etc... So that there will be Jupiter-800 on NAMM heh

I also expect new workstation as the accent is on the word metamorphosis. Same way Juno changed into workstation using Fantom X waveforms I believe Jupiter-80 will use Fantom G waveforms + superNATURAL sounds + some of V-Synth stuff to keep up and if they feel so generous, maybe vk-8 organ module emulation as well.

ARX compability is expected to be included in same way many stage piano supported SRX expansions.

But, what is also expected is that sour taste of trying any of mentioned products and understanding that every specific add-on they borrowed will work better as a separate product than inside Jupiter-80.

synthdood 28th March 2011 01:52 PM

The promo video doesn't sound very analog to me and I know that I should know better but... I haven't been this exited about any new product announcement in ages. Please Roland, pretty please, ... live up to my expectations!

If it turns out to be a disappointment I am selling my SH201 and get a Nord Lead.

kraku 28th March 2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthdood (Post 6479735)
If it turns out to be a disappointment I am selling my SH201 and get a Nord Lead.

You can put out the sales ad already grimm

OurDarkness 28th March 2011 02:36 PM

I have advanced in life and preparing for an EPIC fail from Roland. Wait and see.

depulse 28th March 2011 02:41 PM

Watch this space:

www.jupiter80.com


I expect to be disappointed. As stated, probably a Fantom G plus some Vsynth added.

But maybe it's a JP8000 for the 2011....