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skiroy 12th December 2009 11:23 PM

s950 vs. s900
 
What is the pros and cons of these 2 units. And to use this unit for its sound with drums? Would you use it as a drum sound module and use the MPC or a DAW for the sequencer and then record the Drums into the DAW?

peterpiper0815 13th December 2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skiroy (Post 4881277)
What is the pros and cons of these 2 units. And to use this unit for its sound with drums? Would you use it as a drum sound module and use the MPC or a DAW for the sequencer and then record the Drums into the DAW?


PRO 900: optional trigger inputs so it can act as an trigger to midi interface

PRO 950: more memory, optional SCSI interface,

although the 950 can sample at a higher samplingrate I find the sound differences minimal.

Remember that these machines are old and if something is wrong it is not that easy to get parts that fit.

IMO they both sound great no matter if its drums or melody samples or basslines.

peace

skiroy 13th December 2009 04:51 AM

Id like to do most of my sequencing in FL studi because the midi editing capabilities are the best I used. I have a MPC1000 which I use as a midi controller most the time. What is the best way to incorporate the s900 with my workflow?

ginsuthaironchef 13th December 2009 06:34 AM

There is no bennefit to getting an s900 over the s950.

get an s950. no need to take the 12 bit samples from the s950 and dump them into a 16 bit mpc or other daw.

my favorite sampler easy.

DAH 13th December 2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by skiroy (Post 4881947)
Id like to do most of my sequencing in FL studi because the midi editing capabilities are the best I used. I have a MPC1000 which I use as a midi controller most the time. What is the best way to incorporate the s900 with my workflow?

I d personally triiger s950 from the MP.

skiroy 13th December 2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ginsuthaironchef (Post 4882092)
There is no bennefit to getting an s900 over the s950.

get an s950. no need to take the 12 bit samples from the s950 and dump them into a 16 bit mpc or other daw.

my favorite sampler easy.

Yes there is its cheaper. So if there are no cons then I should get the s900

peterpiper0815 13th December 2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skiroy (Post 4883021)
Yes there is its cheaper. So if there are no cons then I should get the s900

Depends on the point of view. With the 900 you'll need DD floppydisks. These are really rare now and expensive. The s950 can handle HD floppydisks and you can get them cheap and new on ebay.
The fact that the HD disks can hold 1,6MB and the DD only hold 0,8MB make this even clearer.

peace

WideawakE 14th December 2009 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skiroy (Post 4883021)
Yes there is its cheaper. So if there are no cons then I should get the s900

less memory too

freshkils 15th December 2009 09:12 AM

S900
 
Both the S900 & S950 have clunky interfaces which make them somewhat of a pain to integrate, unless you're already very familiar with them.

I have an S900 that I simply use to bounce sounds to and from. Gritty up your breaks, piano chops, etc. Sounds with natural reverbs on them work especially well. Its almost like adding a layer of smoke to the track.

kebzer 15th December 2009 09:59 AM

Besides half memory and use of Double Density floppies only, the s900 lacks also time stretch and if I am not mistaken, variable sampling rate.

Over all, the only good thing about the s900 is the average half price from the s950 and that it is actually easier to locate a replacement floppy drive for it than for the 950.

Anyhow, go for the s950. After the MPC60, it is the easiest thing to work with.

freshkils 15th December 2009 12:06 PM

S900
 
The S900 does, in fact, have variable sampling rates.

fooloof 15th December 2009 09:44 PM

for whatever it's worth, DJ Premiere told me he used the 950.

skiroy 16th December 2009 06:45 AM

So could I sequence my drums midi in the MPC 1000 while using the 950 as my drum sound module for the drum grit. But sequence my keyboard tracks in FL studio and have it all in time? Then I could rewire FL into a DAW and bounce all audio into Sonar,reaper or PT.
IS this Possiable?

Does anyone know how to bounce drums done in FL STUDIO thru the s950 back into FL in the easiest way?

colbatron 1st March 2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by freshkils (Post 4889016)
The S900 does, in fact, have variable sampling rates.

does anyone know if this is true and how to do it if it is?

Vanilla_Dutches 2nd March 2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by colbatron (Post 8798856)
does anyone know if this is true and how to do it if it is?

It does.

It will prompt you for the sample rate every time you sample.

beat you down 2nd March 2013 12:51 PM

- both time consuming to work with.

Studio507 2nd March 2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beat you down (Post 8800275)
- both time consuming to work with.

Not really once you know them. Same as any other sampler.

elcct 15th May 2019 11:07 PM

Anything changed? S900 or S950? Dilemmas...

DAH 17th May 2019 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elcct (Post 13985324)
Anything changed? S900 or S950? Dilemmas...

Start with the cheaper, dump it if it does not fit, try the more expensive. Rinse and repeat.

atma 17th May 2019 10:07 PM

There's a little VST plug that emulates the 950 which is actually fairly decent (RX950). Worth trying.

ILoveSampling 18th May 2019 02:25 AM

I have the mp60 of which is said it uses the s900 sampling engine. I also had the s950. Sampling is a bit different with s950 sounding more hifi. And the mpc60 making samples.. Hip-hop and fat.

goldenmean 18th May 2019 02:55 PM

Mpc60 and 900 series are notvsame sampling engine. There are sonic differences.

Miss my 950 for its fat sound....don’t miss having a giant vcr unit taking up space, def don’t miss the interface which is no fun to use. I can’t use rack samplers in 2019, it’s a hassle. Imo the better you get at mixing you can make samples sound better w outboard gear and clever eq work as opposed to relying on 1 sampler to aid your sound.

The 900 doesn’t have a lp filter, right?

atma 18th May 2019 04:21 PM

I honestly think the S1000 is the better sampler. digital non-resonant filter, but everything sounds amazing through it. I'm probably in the minority, but I also sample everything in stereo, so that's kind of essential for me.

living sounds 20th May 2019 02:03 PM

The S900 is better for drums and basses. It sounds more precise/defined, the S950 is a little more jittery. The difference in sample rate itself is meaningless from a practical standpoint.

The trigger interface is useless, timing is worse than via MIDI, and it actually is serial just like MIDI.

The S950 can save to HD disks, a big plus. The built in OS supports a filter envelope (the actual filter hardware is the same on both, analog switched-capacistance filters, no resonance).

Both transpose via changing the individual voices DACs sampling frequency. Sounds much better than algorithmic transposition.

The S1000 sounds great, but totally different.