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mikoo69 18th November 2009 03:29 AM

sending out songs for final mix, some mixing already done
 
so i have mixed my band's record to the best of my abilities but we are at the stage where we need someone to come in and help put it all together. basically, we are struggling with everything from getting the bass to sit right, general masking, and getting it to sound great on all systems, and want to pass it on at this stage to someone with a bit more experience.

my concern is that there are a lot of elements in the mixes that we did that i don't want to be neglected from the engineer, and am wondering how to best bounce and send the files for work.

for instance, we love the kick drum sounds and snare sounds we got using real kick/snare + samples, along with the gates and reverbs. on the otherhand, the overheads we have just done some EQing that may or may not be beneficial...so should i bounce the snare/kick with the mixing we have done, but the overheads completely dry?

other things are volume automation. i don't know whether to bounce everything as a straight track or if i should keep the automation we've done. for example, the guitar in the intro we like coming in loud, and then getting soft in the verse where the vocals are. should we send tracks with this automation, or just leave it to the mixer to use his ears, possibly give him some notes.

basically the dilemma is that 60% of what we did in the mix could be considered "creative" and then 40% would be considered "trying to get it all to fit"...we feel someone could help us with that 40% but we don't want to sacrifice the 60% creative work we already did.


P.S. we work in logic and most engineers we know work in protools, or want to use outboard gear so just giving them our sessions does not suffice.

magus888 18th November 2009 04:01 AM

Why not "print" what you've already done, and send the mixer both clean and mixed versions? Let the mix engineer work from there.

mikoo69 18th November 2009 04:21 AM

so you're saying 2 sets of audio tracks?

set #1 tracks w/ everything that we have done in the mix

set #2 tracks all completely dry


in terms of the set#1 tracks, do you think i should ever print things such as the eq and compression on overheads that i've done. i like what i've done to it, but clearly that's not something i'm as attached to as say, the balance of snare top/bottom/808sample.

also i'm not sure if i should send with volume automation, maybe that's something that we should just give notes on i.e. "the guitar in the intro should be in the forefront, but only as a subtle background part in the verse". there are some balance decisions that are essential in our opinion, and want to ensure those do not get changed.

magus888 18th November 2009 04:25 AM

Do you have good communication with this engineer? If so, you should be able to help mold the mixes throughout the process.

IntelDoc 18th November 2009 04:47 AM

One of the best things to do is send a example of what you are after in a MP3 format on the session. If you are sending a session to a MIX engineer I would not want anything on the tracks that you feel could be better. If there is a reverb or effect that you like and WANT on there then by all means write it in. Chances are though that any professional mix engineer will have better, cleaner effects than what you send. I prefer to not have anything (compression, etc) on a track unless it is that specific sound that they want. I can then build upon it later.

Best thing is to clean and mix prep the tracks to your best ability, consolidate them all into equal length tracks, LABEL THEM PROPERLY and save just the used audio out as a new session. Clean the session up and send that out.

Hope this helps?