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FMNYC 2nd August 2005 09:20 PM

The Mindprint Tips Thread
or not.

i know there's only a few of us Mindprint DTC users here and lord knows i ain't one of the more knowledgeable ones.
so i figure i'd ask my fellow slutz who use this piece of gear for some tips.
particularly when it's being used a two channel comp.

besides tracking duties here's my "summing" chain:

out of my DAW via
motu mk3 analog 1/4" outs into an
API 8200a mixer out to
Mindprint DTC - some eq'ing done at this stage back into
Apogee Rosetta and out of the Rosetta via optical and back into
DAW into a final stereo track - sometimes a Waves L2 and LMB are present.

the one thing i do have a real problem with is the compressor section, i can't get that thing to do what i want. it's either too compressed and the whole mix starts to pump or it doesn't cut it and i have to use the waves L2 for gain make-up purposes.
i know it's not an API 2500 but it should do better than this, or am i smoking the pipe?

any Mindprint DTC slutz out there using it in a similar fashion?



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dim light 2nd August 2005 10:10 PM

This is my summing chain:

1. RME ADI x2 (16ch) / Big Ben / Rme HDSP 9652
2. Allen&Heath GL2200
3. Mindprint DTC
4. Fatso
5. RME ADI 8
6. DAW

Think the EQ and comp is solid on the DTC

I use the Fatso for compression and warmth - tranny etc. I'm very happy with my setup. I have no tips - think the comp/lim is pretty straight forward to use, no issues.

FMNYC 2nd August 2005 10:48 PM

thanks for the reply.
i just went to the mindprint forum and actually someone else had a similar question but the response he got from them was pretty lame.



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dim light 3rd August 2005 12:09 AM

You should try the Fatso - very nice! Good luck with the processing.

cultureofgreed 3rd August 2005 01:24 AM

I have a DTC, but I am still getting the hang of the thing. I don't know if I would want to use the compressor on a whole mix. The DTC's compressor is just not like normal compressors, it works great on instruments but I don't think it can be controlled enough to be used on a whole mix.

SLy_drums 3rd August 2005 08:46 AM

I also got the DTC.
The compression section is damn strange, but definitely add warmth and special texture to what's processed in.
I love the preamp and EQ (this one is incredible, I love it, you can do whatever you want), and begin to know how to use it well, but the optical compressor is still a mystery.

I'd only use it as :
- a limiter before going to the converters, very useful.
- a compressor for the bass (roundness and warmth), vocals, and accoustic instruments...

The compressor is quite extreme and most of the time the knobs are near 0, I don't want to mess up my mixes. I never tried it as a master bus compressor, but I guess it would work with very careful settings. I'd rather use the EQ in a mastering.

The DTC is a great channel on every point, it's original. Love it thumbsup
That unit is not very known but works just great.

FMNYC 3rd August 2005 03:25 PM

thanks guys.
yeah, i tried it again on a whole mix last night and the compressor it's just really hard to get a handle on. it's almost as if yo have to "ride' it like a fader.

on the other hand i do like the EQ section on the whole mix.
i have to do my own "mastering" since i can't afford to go to a real studio/engineer.
i love my mindprint, maybe this is the are where it just doesn't cut, which is fine, it does so well on everything else i'd be an idiot to complain.

i think dim light got it right. i need something like a Fatso or a real two bus comp... my gear slut stirs again...


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FunkFaker 29th January 2006 11:08 PM

DTC tube variations.....
Have any of you replaced the tubes in the mindprint DTC?

Have you had any comments on the sonic changes, better/worse?

Just curious as to what options are available.

thanks, tommy

FMNYC 30th January 2006 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by FunkFaker
Have any of you replaced the tubes in the mindprint DTC?

Have you had any comments on the sonic changes, better/worse?

Just curious as to what options are available.

thanks, tommy

funny you should ask.
i have a pair of NOS tubes i will be trying soon, hopefully.

check this thread out:



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dim light 30th January 2006 03:52 PM

let us know about your findings... thx!

FMNYC 30th January 2006 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by dim light
let us know about your findings... thx!

kfhkh kfhkh kfhkh


FunkFaker 30th January 2006 04:23 PM


What NOS tubes did you decide on?


FMNYC 30th January 2006 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by FunkFaker

What NOS tubes did you decide on?


i got me a pair of 1969 Amperex 12AX7's from

great service, nice guy.

i'm hoping the mindprint dtc and the NOS tubes will get along nice.



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FMNYC 4th February 2006 02:52 PM

i posted this another on another thread but just to keep things tidy i will repost my findings here.

in short, the Amperex tubes and the Mindprint together sound FANTASTIC!

if any of you are interested i posted an mp3 on my site:

if you want to enter the site thru the front door, here's the url, you will need Flash Player 8. (there's a link on the splash page)

i can't believe it took me this long to figure this out, now i gotta spend some quality time doing some remixing/summing with the new tubes.
kfhkh kfhkh

hope this is helpful to other Mindprint owners.


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