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tINY 5th May 2009 02:10 AM

Flying Cloud construction
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Since I have a good, big room for listening/mixing, I'm dealing with ceiling reflections before bass traps. The Ultra-touch I have is too limp for this, so I went and found my local SPI and got 6 panels of Roxul Safe 4" (4.5pcf).

This is a bit on the limp side, but I didn't need the extra density. The first thing is to build a pair of 4'x4' frames to hang from the ceiling.

The first attempt used flashing and rivets. This is very light, but lacked stiffness and had sharp edges. The edges would be a problem when it comes to wraping fabric around it and attaching chain or wire to the thin metal would be tough.

Besides, I hadn't used my crown stapler in a while....

Rev 2 uses 1/2 and 1/4" thick poplar. This was easy to build and much stiffer than the flashing frame. It's a little heavier, but I have lots of options for eyelets when I go to fly it.

Here's pictures of the two models 001 is the bottom sides and 002 is the top sides.


Glenn Kuras 5th May 2009 11:34 AM

Looking good Tiny!

tINY 6th May 2009 07:34 AM

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Got the shoe on both frames this evening. This will help the fabric look nice when it gets streatched.


tINY 12th May 2009 07:57 PM

More construction
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Here are some more details. The center is a mount for LED lighting. The clouds will fly from two hooks and two long carriage bolts (with holes above for the chain to pass through).


tINY 13th May 2009 07:34 PM

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They are up.

The ends are sagging a bit, so I may need to install a couple hooks, cable and turnbuckle to staighten things out... least the sag is even on both sides!


Weasel9992 13th May 2009 10:34 PM

Nice Job tINY.


tINY 15th May 2009 01:51 AM


That plus a new soft-top ottoman makes a big difference. No need for anything on the side walls with the corner set-up...


JWL 15th May 2009 06:40 AM

Sweet, tINY.

Weasel9992 15th May 2009 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by tINY (Post 4187057)
That plus a new soft-top ottoman makes a big difference. No need for anything on the side walls with the corner set-up...

Hmmmm...I don't know if I agree with that part. The walls are angled, but you're still going to get short reflections back to the mix position. Plus, you might want to do something with the corner you're facing.


tINY 15th May 2009 08:32 PM

The corner already has a built-in fireplace that isn't going anywhere.

As to the corner set-up in general. Any first reflections that get to you come from more than 90deg off axis of the speakers. Unless the baffle is really narrow, this is lower frequency material anyway. If there is a problem, you can treat the whole corner easily.


Bobbaganouche 15th May 2009 10:00 PM

i like the clouds, tiny.
ive been drawing up a few for my room using a similar concept. the biggest question... which color fabric to finish with hittt

GP_Hawk 15th May 2009 10:45 PM

I went with as light a color I could get away with as far as fabric avail. because the ceiling was in an off white. I feel dark clouds make it seem more closed in.

Good job Tiny. Guess a bit of sag with the 4x4 panels. The way I was making them I went with 2x4 cause the 4x4 was sag'n also on me. Constructed of a frame made from corner bead(for drywall) and this is covered with a slip on "bag" the wife cooked up on her machine for me. 1x4 panels of roxul rockboard in each of the clouds.

tINY 16th May 2009 12:37 AM

I looked at that corner bead as well. I like the idea of a completely non-flamable clouds. But, I found the poplar a lot easier to work with. It's easy to staple fabric to as well (since I don't sew...)

Nice looking cloud. Did you have studs in the right places for the corners, or did you have to use anchors of some type?


GP_Hawk 16th May 2009 05:35 PM

I used THESE anchors for all the traps actually. Screwed in eyelets and used bag ties to attach. The clouds were light enough to use these anchors and they work well for light to medium loads. Again,I screwed in eyelets and used these steel hooks I found. mAde it easy to install too.