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LeoRapture 10th September 2020 10:26 AM

Panels at floor level VS raised
 
I have a tricky back wall to treat, so what I’m going to opt for instead of mounting, is just letting them free stand. May add some metal support brackets for added stability if I find them tipping over for some reason...My only concern with this are the benefits of having the panels raised up higher...are the effects drastic for a panel at floor level vs a panel more centered in regards to floor/ceiling ratio? I’ve seen 24” off the ground thrown around before..

I love GIK, but paying $55 each for stands isn’t happening...unless the difference with raising them off the floor is quite significant ;) but even then, I’ll probably still DIY...budget all went towards the actual treatment, lol

thethrillfactor 10th September 2020 11:29 AM

What is the point of having panels on the backwall? What are they supposed to do? How far back is your backwall from your listening position?

If you can answer these questions, then you will find your answers in terms of if stands are needed.

LeoRapture 10th September 2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor (Post 14963906)
What is the point of having panels on the backwall? What are they supposed to do? How far back is your backwall from your listening position?

If you can answer these questions, then you will find your answers in terms of if stands are needed.

The room is 17(L) x 11(W), listening position is roughly at the 35-38% mark. Back wall is roughly 10ft. behind me. I’m mainly trying to fight the 80/160 null due to having low ceilings. I figured bass trapping near the back wall may aid in getting those ranges under control a little more..front wall has decent treatment in regards to bass trapping, reflection points, and ceiling cloud.

avare 10th September 2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoRapture (Post 14963843)
I have a tricky back wall to treat, so what I’m going to opt for instead of mounting, is just letting them free stand. May add some metal support brackets for added stability if I find them tipping over for some reason...My only concern with this are the benefits of having the panels raised up higher...are the effects drastic for a panel at floor level vs a panel more centered in regards to floor/ceiling ratio? I’ve seen 24” off the ground thrown around before..

I love GIK, but paying $55 each for stands isn’t happening...unless the difference with raising them off the floor is quite significant ;) but even then, I’ll probably still DIY...budget all went towards the actual treatment, lol

20 questions time.

1. What are "bass traps" near the back wall?
2. How much of the rear wall is covered by the "bass traps?

DannyMac 10th September 2020 02:19 PM

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it won't - you will just loose space and mess with the slew rate..

you say low ceilings so lets say 8 foot and under? -

cheap steel I beam and LOTS of mdf board - as close to floor to ceiling in height and 1.5 foot deep - angled like fins hung from the beam.
if steel is too expensive then build a girder from 3 layers of 2x8 and glue clamp and screw together
similar to the pic below

LeoRapture 10th September 2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by avare (Post 14964130)
20 questions time.

1. What are "bass traps" near the back wall?
2. How much of the rear wall is covered by the "bass traps?

Bass traps = GIK 244 panels

Room width is 11’ - it would be 5 panels(2’x4’) spread across the width of the back wall, with only a 2-3” gap in between each panel.

avare 10th September 2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoRapture (Post 14964752)
Bass traps = GIK 244 panels

Room width is 11’ - it would be 5 panels(2’x4’) spread across the width of the back wall, with only a 2-3” gap in between each panel.

It isbetter to raise them With a bit of ingenuity and DIYing you can do it for less than $125.

LeoRapture 10th September 2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by avare (Post 14964904)
It isbetter to raise them With a bit of ingenuity and DIYing you can do it for less than $125.

I’m not much of a builder, lol. Considering just buying a bunch of mic stands and getting their boom stand brackets....can think of plenty of ways to stand them on the floor for super cheap...but raising them is another thing entirely.

Kyle P. Gushue 12th September 2020 01:01 AM

Walmart has portable clothing racks on wheels. Is a cross bar between two uprights. This may suit your needs.