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stephenthegun 26th May 2020 03:49 PM

Really unusual stamp on MIJ Tele Neck
 
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Hi everyone,

I am looking at purchasing a vintage MIJ Tele. It's listed as a Fender TN-70 Thinline Telecaster Reissue MIJ 1985/86. I know it is notoriously hard to nail down dates on these tele's but I'm doing my best to do my research. I would love to have an 85 as it would be a birth year tele.

Now for the question...Has anyone ever come across this Japanese Character stamp on the neck of a MIJ Tele? If so, is it consistent with that era of telecaster? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[email protected] 13th June 2020 10:59 AM

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If you are relying on it being an 85/86 from an A serial bridge plate it is highly unlikely to be an 85/86. A serial bridge plates were used well into the 90s. Genuine A serials on a guitar are very unusual, unless it is a 1996 Crafted in Japan after the switch from Fuji-Gen to Dyna-Gakki factories. Even then that’s a stamp on the neck.

I have a ‘93 TN70 with an A plate. These guitars didn’t have the serial number under “Made in Japan”, and neither does my ‘89 TL69BFL. The date is always written on the heel end of the neck, which isn’t shown in your picture. The guitars I have from ‘96 onwards all have serials below “Made/Crafted in Japan”. Earlier MIJ guitars often had the serial on the headstock (common from 84-89) or stamped on the neck plate (JV and SQ from 82-84).

Lovely guitar, but probably a little older than described. Picture of both below with their Fender Japan stablemates. I have a thing for them...

stephenthegun 13th June 2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 14797891)

Lovely guitar, but probably a little older than described. Picture of both below with their Fender Japan stablemates. I have a thing for them...

Thanks so much for your response, Jim. As you mentioned the bridge plate is meaningless on a MIJ Fender so I am trying to date it in other ways. The stamp of a Japanese character really threw me for a loop though. I can find anything or anyone who knows anything about it.

As far as I am aware I don't think it can be any older than 85 because they weren't in production before then. Seems that the date of this guitar is just a guess and a shot in the dark.

Thanks.

[email protected] 13th June 2020 09:30 PM

It should be written on the heel end of the neck. The pic you posted had the neck off, if the seller is claiming it’s an 85 and you want an 85 then there’s your way to check. If the seller doesn’t want to send it then it’s likely not to be.

FWIW I’ve not seen too many TN70 that age, TL52 and TL62 more common, under the guise of not that many true 85/86 MIJ guitars about.

stephenthegun 15th June 2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 14798736)
It should be written on the heel end of the neck. The pic you posted had the neck off, if the seller is claiming it’s an 85 and you want an 85 then there’s your way to check. If the seller doesn’t want to send it then it’s likely not to be.

FWIW I’ve not seen too many TN70 that age, TL52 and TL62 more common, under the guise of not that many true 85/86 MIJ guitars about.

Thanks, Jim, I appreciate your responses. I will be asking about photos of the end of the neck as well as trying to get photos of the selector switch. From my research, it seems that if it is an 85 it should have an open selector switch and not the cheaper closed switches that were introduced in 87(?).

[email protected] 16th June 2020 04:32 PM

If it really is an '85 then the pots are the least concern. Most likely changed anyway. It's all about the original neck.... check for the pencil date right on the heel end.

[email protected] 17th June 2020 07:25 AM

And as if by serendipity, today there’s a post about a genuine A serial here
https://m.*********************20070...composer=false

stephenthegun 18th June 2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 14804853)
And as if by serendipity, today there’s a post about a genuine A serial here
https://m.*********************20070...composer=false

Thanks again for all your replies. The link doesn't work though. Hopefully, the selector switch hasn't been changed and there is a date on the end of the neck.

[email protected] 18th June 2020 05:02 PM

Dead helpful facebook group called "Japanese Fender and Squier guitars MIJ CIJ". Worth a nose as this week a couple of A serials got posted