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Hatov 21st February 2020 09:51 PM

Good bass head without cabinet
 
Hi,

I'm looking for a new bass head. But I have one important constraint, I'm not playing with a cabinet, we like to have our stage sound as low as possible.
I'm currently using a MusicMan Sub Bass and an Eden Terra Nova 501, sounds decent but I it's time to go a step higher.

My first intuition goes for Ampeg but I know there's a lot of other great brands, that's why I need some recommandations !

I tried a Markbass little Mark Tube 800, I liked the preamp tube, so I'll definitely go for an hybrid head.

I'm not a bass hero, I'm not really into the bass solo thing. I only kind of "carry" the song, so I don't want something that will make me sound like Victor Wooten.

Here's a bass sound and player that is amazing to me :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OxE1p_YKOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktyhXq00RxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNHJBnQTzog

(Actually any performance of Pino Palladino with John Mayer ^^)

About the budget, I can spend 1500 euros, not more.

Well I hope you have any information to help me !

Thanks.

Etienne.

tINY 21st February 2020 11:06 PM


If you don't want a bass cabinet on-stage, why do you need a whole head with an amp that you won't use?

Look at the Bass Preamps - most of them these days are in pedal format. You could buy several and stay under your price limit.



-tINY


Hatov 21st February 2020 11:25 PM

I didn't even think about it but that makes sense. Maybe in my mind an amp would add some colour to my sound, by you might be right I'll give it a try.

Do you mean something like an avalon U5 or Red DI for example ? Or only bass preamps in pedal format ?

tINY 22nd February 2020 12:39 AM

https://www.thomann.de/gb/bass_pream...oorboard&ls=50





-tINY


John Eppstein 22nd February 2020 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatov (Post 14547031)
I didn't even think about it but that makes sense. Maybe in my mind an amp would add some colour to my sound, by you might be right I'll give it a try.

Do you mean something like an avalon U5 or Red DI for example ? Or only bass preamps in pedal format ?

Yes, an amp will add some color to your sound - if it has a speaker. The speaker is part of the sound of the amp.

There is one box I can think of that will probably do exactly what you want - the Tonecraft tube DI.

http://www.tonecraftaudio.com/ Order direct.

It's more or less the front end of an Ampeg Portaflex B-15N, optimized for DI, with a lot of extra features. It also kicks ass on anything else on the market, as it should - it costs $1,500. It's also hand built with point to point wiring. It has two interdependently transformer isolated XLR outputs with individual ground lift switches, plus a high impedance 1/4" output that, unlike the parallel output in other DIs is tube buffered. Cinemag transformers. Input volume and output level controls. Frequency response is 5Hz to 75KHz.

Second best is the A-Designs KGB-1, which is solid state. It's about $750.

Both of these have a true Baxandall EQ section. The KGB has an added midrange band, but that's not all that necessary if you know how to work a Baxandall - you can boost mids simply by turning down bass and treble - which doesn't work well with with standard Fender/Marshall style tone controls, which interact.

I would not go for the Avalon. The EQ on that is limited to a small handful of presets - no real controls at all.

You will not hear much, if anything, about the Tonecraft from others around here, and for a very good reason - as far as I can tell they don't advertise and are not available in the big music stores.