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Bignatius 26th December 2019 06:24 PM

5U/Grandmother/Matriarch panel spacing
 
After more than a month with the Grandmother plus the time I had with the Matriarch before, my earlier suspicions re Panel Size have been confirmed:

I vastly (nearly immeasurably) prefer the bigger panel spacing of the Grandmother/Matriarch to the more cramped norm in most Eurorack modules.

Especially when "playing" the gear like an instrument, actively adjusting things in real time, all that. It's more "adult sized", the 5U. For grown person hands.

:)

Granted, IMO, Eurorack still crushes all of the other formats when it comes to options/variety, size of market, size of used market, growth potential, etc.

And, as far as I'm concerned, all of my Eurorack gear sounds and works fantastic.., zero complaints with any of those aspects. I'm cool w 1/8" cables, too.

Further, it's not like I hate Eurorack/3U gear, now. I lurve it, and it excels in certain Use Cases, namely portability and situations where overall size matters.

But I suspect I will start to slowly migrate to a larger format where I can. I don't want to lose any features or options so I may just remount some 3U to 5U.

I haven't gotten that far yet.

But man, what a difference. From "knob resolution" (larger diameter knobs vs tiny ones), to more easily seen labels, more room for your hands; bigger rules.

It's also helped to solidify the decision to go and re-buy a Matriarch to accompany the GM and be a more central piece of my studio-based modular.

Now, more than ever, I must carefully weigh each module I purchase... is there a 5U version already? Is it redundant with the GM and Matriarch, and so on.

Yet another day in modular land.

Warts and all it's still the best thing going.

Derp 26th December 2019 06:48 PM

Yeah, everything in 5U is bigger. It ain't got the variety that Euro does, but the basic modules all sound fantastic. I don't like patching in 5U, but I love the sound enough to be slowly rebuilding mine after selling it a couple years ago.

Bignatius 15th January 2020 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 14406715)
Yeah, everything in 5U is bigger. It ain't got the variety that Euro does, but the basic modules all sound fantastic. I don't like patching in 5U, but I love the sound enough to be slowly rebuilding mine after selling it a couple years ago.

How far along are you on the rebuilding?

Now people like Noise Engineering are offering 5U versions of their Oscillators so that's pretty great.

I was planning to buy two Oscillators from NE anyway, and now I'm seriously considering getting the bigger ones to start my 5U journey and supplement a Matriarch's onboard VCOs.

Derp 16th January 2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bignatius (Post 14454910)
How far along are you on the rebuilding?

This far. I don't even have power or a cabinet for it yet.

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/rack...rid_818281.jpg

drxcm 17th January 2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 14406715)
I don't like patching in 5U

Whaaaa?

I love patching in 5U. It just feels so solid!
What's your beef with it?

Derp 17th January 2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drxcm (Post 14463989)
Whaaaa?

I love patching in 5U. It just feels so solid!
What's your beef with it?

It's too solid. It feels like those connections weren't meant to be undone, so I'll leave it in a state of having a basic voice for weeks on end. Whereas in Euro, everything patches and unpatches with ease, so I always approach it as a blank canvas.

drxcm 17th January 2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Derp (Post 14465049)
It's too solid. It feels like those connections weren't meant to be undone, so I'll leave it in a state of having a basic voice for weeks on end. Whereas in Euro, everything patches and unpatches with ease, so I always approach it as a blank canvas.

I can understand that. I suspect the more traditional analog systems that people usually build in 5U lend themselves more to that kind of patching too (eg classic synth voice).

For me the solidity is awesome. One thing I find annoying with Euro is that occasionally patch cables in the audio path get bumped and jostled which can produce crackle in the audio or CV signal. I never get this with my 5U system.

Derp 17th January 2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drxcm (Post 14465334)
For me the solidity is awesome. One thing I find annoying with Euro is that occasionally patch cables in the audio path get bumped and jostled which can produce crackle in the audio or CV signal. I never get this with my 5U system.

I know that feeling. Last night I had a patch going from one side to the other, and I'll often use an attenuator as an intermediary to connect a long patch, but this one was just barely the right length. I had to wiggle sideways because anytime I touched the cable, it would pop out. :lol: