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camarao 26th November 2019 04:54 PM

Behringer Monopoly
 
http://www.synthanatomy.com/2019/11/...mono-poly.html

flat 26th November 2019 05:55 PM

The only factor holding me off from buying a Poly D.

Guesses on what that might call it?

The Bonopoly?

or maybe the U2? :heh:

synthguy 26th November 2019 05:57 PM

I guess they want to run off with everyone's intellectual property. How very Chinese.

Wasaim 26th November 2019 06:03 PM

yes, YES, come to papa.

DStep ATL 26th November 2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by synthguy (Post 14346150)
I guess they want to run off with everyone's intellectual property. How very Chinese.

I’m not a behringer guy, I own nothing they make, but I don’t get this. The monopoly went out of production before I was born. My parents hadn’t even met when it was in production.

There is some irony to your signature line, btw.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, though.

bkbirge 26th November 2019 06:05 PM

Others in their trademark application...
Blue Marvin, Kobol, Polykobol, Polivoks, Synthex, Trident, Quadra, Source, Prodigy, Logan, Pro-16, Pro-800

seamonkey 26th November 2019 06:08 PM

It wouldn't make sense to file a trademark for a name unless the old one had expired.
It isn't Behringer's fault if Korg no longer cared about the term.

Behringer is making synths based on vintage and classic synths from decades ago.
Synth lovers have been begging Roland, Yamaha and Korg for decades to reissue classic analog synths from the past...the answer.......crickets.

I don't fault Behringer for recognizing the demand, and the big 3 have no one to blame but themselves.

Analog synthesizers were a niche market and all but boutique creators were the only ones left carrying the torch.
We have Dave Smith to thank for the resurrection of analog products on a large production basis in my opinion.
He took a chance, while the Big 3 sat on the sideline. Dave had more to lose financially and it was a risk, but he gave us the Prophet 08 and it was a big success.

The big 3 had more resources but still chose not to enter the analog market. The way they approached demand for analog reissues and their response bordered on arrogance towards those who kept asking for analog.
So if it's true they allowed their trademark to expire and didn't check first, bad on them. And I'm a Korg lover.

flat 26th November 2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthguy (Post 14346150)
I guess they want to run off with everyone's intellectual property. How very Chinese.


I usually agree with much you say, but on this occasion I beg to differ. I have always wanted a Monopoly, but the prices are wildly out of sight now.

Korg have toyed with us asking whether there would be interest, but nothing came of it. Tbh. I doubt anything will.

I would be very interested in a Behringer version (with perhaps a few improvements thrown into the bargain), even more so than the Poly D.

The Monopoly is a wacky oddball synth. I'd rather have something close to it, than never experience it again.

Just sayin

EvilDragon 26th November 2019 06:16 PM

I believe sir Flat now has a smile about a kilometer wide. freshflowe

flat 26th November 2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon (Post 14346203)
I believe sir Flat now has a smile about a kilometer wide. freshflowe

kfhkh

If they ever do a Trident, you may hear a small explosion in the far distance :heh:

EvilDragon 26th November 2019 06:22 PM

...from too much gas being passed? jummpp

flat 26th November 2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon (Post 14346226)
...from too much gas being passed? jummpp

:lol:

vlz 26th November 2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flat (Post 14346222)
kfhkh

If they ever do a Trident, you may hear a small explosion in the far distance :heh:

They trademarked it.
It's as likely to happen as a monopoly.

asynchro_nous 26th November 2019 06:32 PM

Yes, please

Shadowkast 26th November 2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synthguy (Post 14346150)
I guess they want to run off with everyone's intellectual property. How very Chinese.

Are broken records considered IP? You’ve been spinning one for awhile now.

EvilDragon 26th November 2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vlz (Post 14346238)
They trademarked it.
It's as likely to happen as a monopoly.


I think I heard gasses coming from flat's direction. heppy

drockfresh 26th November 2019 07:25 PM

Uli is the Bill Bellicheck of synths

Dude is relentless and so much winning

EvilDragon 26th November 2019 07:32 PM

I thought the only guy that is winning was Charlie Sheen. abduction

flat 26th November 2019 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vlz (Post 14346238)
They trademarked it.
It's as likely to happen as a monopoly.


Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilDragon (Post 14346344)
I think I heard gasses coming from flat's direction. heppy

I'm not asking much Uli (if you are reading this)

Brident. Marc frei

Don't care if its 4 octaves. Similar format to the OB-6 size. Get the Flanger right and that huge majestic sound and its insta-buy from me. One of the most powerful rich sounding (and under-rated) analog synths ever made.

Maybe you could also add a few choice tweaks & features to the synth section to give it the chance it deserved to give the Jupiter 8 a run for its money. coogecoogecooge

elcct 26th November 2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonkey (Post 14346178)
Synth lovers have been begging Roland, Yamaha and Korg for decades to reissue classic analog synths from the past...the answer.......crickets.

There is a conspiracy that there was an embargo on production of affordable classic analogue poly synthesizers to curb creation of evil music. With time, the number of working synthesizers would have reduced to such amount where only elites could indulge themselves in sculpting electricity.
It was okay to produce digital synths though, as that doesn't sound the same as voltage shaped by analogue circuits (certain parts of brain don't get stimulated).
But since a week or so ago (the famous Model D vs Diva thread) everything changed. Turns out, brain can be "fooled" and the whole master plan of the elites is in tatters. It's now okay to do cheap classic analogue poly synths.
The second take is that if everyone gets to have a classic analogue poly synthesizer, it will become a fad.
I wonder what is going to get an embargo next...

:facepalm:

vlz 26th November 2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by flat (Post 14346434)
I'm not asking much Uli (if you are reading this)

Brident. Marc frei

Don't care if its 4 octaves. Similar format to the OB-6 size. Get the Flanger right and that huge majestic sound and its insta-buy from me. One of the most powerful rich sounding (and under-rated) analog synths ever made.

Maybe you could also add a few choice tweaks & features to the synth section to give it the chance it deserved to give the Jupiter 8 a run for its money. coogecoogecooge

oh but will it be a poly or a para? :heh:

flat 26th November 2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vlz (Post 14346472)
oh but will it be a poly or a para? :heh:

:lol:

Both. The Trident uses elements of both (I think)

vlz 26th November 2019 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flat (Post 14346478)
:lol:

Both. The Trident uses elements of both (I think)

It will be a fun GS thread. cooge

nkozyra 26th November 2019 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synthguy (Post 14346150)
I guess they want to run off with everyone's intellectual property. How very Chinese.

I believe in order to protect intellectual property wrt trademark you need to show that you're actively defending your trademark; it's part of the threshold for whether something is a valid trademark.

If they're not maintaining the trademark then that test fails.

flat 26th November 2019 08:53 PM

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Uli, if you are going to have a go at the Trident, I would be happy for something like this (You could possibly use the DM12 chassis)?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...5&d=1574797891

vlz 26th November 2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flat (Post 14346565)
Uli, if you are going to have a go at the Trident, I would be happy for something like this (You could possibly use the DM12 chassis)?

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...5&d=1574797891

If they go and produce a Trident, it would be a shame to be one octave short. C'mon, if a job is worth doing, it is worth doing properly.

seamonkey 26th November 2019 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by flat (Post 14346565)
Uli, if you are going to have a go at the Trident, I would be happy for something like this (You could possibly use the DM12 chassis)?

I love the creativity and vision you have, but for goodness sake those keys?
did someone grow this in a garden?

flat 26th November 2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vlz (Post 14346587)
If they go and produce a Trident, it would be a shame to be one octave short. C'mon, if a job is worth doing, it is worth doing properly.

Hmm, i'm just being realistic. Trident is not a hugely popular synth, so I suspect if they did it, they would do a simplified version to keep the price right.

i.e. I would prefer a 4 octave, than nothing sort of thing.

flat 26th November 2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonkey (Post 14346608)
I love the creativity and vision you have, but for goodness sake those keys?
did someone grow this in a garden?

:lol: It was the only pic I could find at the right sort of angle. I wasn't going for a masterpiece. Just the general idea.

(might have forgotten to turn off the transparency tab in windows paint too :facepalm: )

felis 26th November 2019 09:22 PM

Sounds like the Poly D is pretty close already:
" The Korg Mono/Poly is a mono-polyphonic analog Synthesizer that was manufactured from 1981 to 1984. It features four voltage-controlled oscillators, a 4-pole, self-oscillating lowpass filter, several modulation capabilities, and offers paraphonic playbility (pseudo polyphony). Further, it has 1 VCA per voice, 2 ADSR envelopes (filter, amp) and two LFO’s with individual rates."

I'm not getting something though - 4 osc. go into 1 filter, and then out of the 1 filter to 4 individual vca's?