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Any critique appreciated
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Warning some violence in the song, Dead Stick Rage x mixed by paul. Cold Tight Dead Stick Rage An account of a sharing at a Men’s Anger Group She invited me over despite the restraining order I went cause I’m bound to that woman like a brick is to mortar I went along the back way didn’t want nobody to see cause we’d raised so many rows (pronounced rowels) before the neighbors would recognize me Through the backdoor we kissed like friends had I suffered enough had I made amends I felt like I licked it like I’d made a real change like I’d never act out again in a cold tight dead stick rage She made a fine dinner we were happy at the table we laughed at our past fights like they was only in a fable we ate desert and we drank some wine I’d not felt this at home for a very long time She took a call gave it all her attention sounded like another guy with a sexual intention She laughed and talked while I stewed in place till the tightness took me and I punched her in the face I can still hear her screaming through the rising of my bile the red blood running down the white bathroom tile I left there and I came right here to tell you fellows what we have to fear Through the backdoor we kissed like friends had I suffered enough had I made amends I felt like I licked it like I’d made a real change like I’d never act out again in a cold tight dead stick rage We all looked down and sighed as the cops came in he looked so helpless as they handcuffed him and to this day I think of this visceral story a constant reminder of how things can get stormy and I wonder about that fragile little catch that stills my anger when I get the itch Can’t take much credit for what the angels gave the shut down valve that grants me a save but Through the backdoor he kissed like friends had he suffered enough had he made amends He felt like he licked it like he’d made a real change like he’d never act out again in a cold tight dead stick rage |
Ok, the subject matter and most of the content doesn't work for me at all. So, perhaps a few questions would be the most useful critique I can contribute. Keep in mind that I mean no offense by them. They are questions I ask myself.
Why are you creating this? Why is it important to you? Who exactly is your audience? Why will this set of lyrics be of high value to them? In media, most people want to be entertained, inspired and/or informed. How specifically does this set of lyrics accomplish that? To what extent does it succeed? Mildly or big-time or not at all? Think of the previous question in terms of other art you love - not just other lyrics. For example, what movies do you love? Have you mapped out the emotional journey you experience when watching those movies? How will your lyrics compare to such a ride in the minds of your audience? What do you want to accomplish in life? What is important to you? Hope this helps, Ray H. |
Thanks for the response.
Ok, it's a dangerous song, my only one. Some years ago I joined a mens anger group. One day a very upset guy came in and told that story, ok I added a little drama. It was the best thing I learned in the class, a parable of loss of self control. And that guy was not a one off. I wanted to help some people with the song, as the story helped me. Audience, don't know, I don't write to targets (maybe I should), I'm working on my own therapy, and trying to create something new. I know of no other song like this, about a violent incident (is this really a taboo subject?), loose connection to Cash's Folsom Prison but I didn't think about at all. I you don't mind a few questions for you, Did you listen to the music or just read the lyrics? What part didn't work for you, and did you understand the story? If so was it just aversion to the subject material, my wife hates it, lol. Thanks for your help. |
Did you listen to the music or just read the lyrics?
I read the lyrics at least 3 times through. I read parts of it several times - because I was having more trouble in some spots than other spots - and I tend to do that anyway. I did not listen to the music, only read the lyrics. What part didn't work for you? I will often walk up to a keyboard and push down on some number of random keys all at once, as if to play a complex way-outside chord. Then I do a few things. Here are a couple:
Success with these exercises is not a result of talent, it is because the music was always there in those notes just waiting to be [re]discovered. Some of your lyrics could work for me, but I think we are at a similar level where I would have to invest time to play with them. Did you understand the story? I did take note of the line: 'An account of a sharing at a Men’s Anger Group', and read the lyrics in that context. But I didn't understand what you were trying to accomplish with them, for me. I expect I was never intended to be one of the people you are trying to help with the song. . .so it just didn't resonate with much of anything for me, personally. This isn't the only reason for the questions though. I ask myself similar questions when I am trying to compose most anything. Was it just aversion to the subject material? Well, there was [for me] an aversion to the subject material. But I don't think it was just that. As to notions of audience, I think it useful for creatives to be explicit about this - even if the audience is just yourself [as it often has been for me], or others you want to help. And I'm interpreting your response as a 1st layer answer to my question. The question was much less concerned with thinking about genres or large audiences. Best wishes, Ray H. |
Thanks Ray, I learned something from that.
I asked about listening to the music because it is not a country song, more like a Django sort of thing. Some people have an aversion to country style tunes, I'm an old folky who took a lot of jazz lessons. I do a similar thing on the guitar (classical type), play a weird combo then adjust. I've written whole songs from that beginning, but nothing I think is very good compared to the ones that come from either accident or intention. I'm glad you are not in the intended audience. An act of domestic violence occures every 9 seconds in America. When I was a freshman in College my first paper came back covered in red ink. I got some help, it seems I didn't know how to put on an objective, virginal brain when proofreading my writing. Once they showed me how to do that I was able to pass the red ink test (keep in mind this was in the days of the Underwood Upright manual typewriter). I'm trying to learn to do that with my songwriting, and also in my recording work. Ray, if you want, direct me to some of your stuff, words or songs. If we can be honest with each other maybe we can both get better. Thanks again for taking the time. |
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There are a lot of people you need to not worry about if you are interested in telling these difficult stories. |
And yeah, I do know that this thread is old.
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I didn't like most of the rhymes. Felt contrived to me.
I would obfuscate some of the details to appeal to a wider group. Also, that is a lot of lyrics. Unless its sung fast that is going to one long song. Unless the music was magical I doubt I could make it to the end of the song. |