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swiftly 2nd October 2019 03:49 PM

EQ Kick Drum On Mackie CFX12
 
Hi,

Firstly I am a complete novie with Mixing Desks and EQ.

My daughter (15) (Drummer) has started a band and has inherited a Mackie CFX12 withan AMP and 2 Peavey speakers.

She has also aquired a set of drum mics.

The problem I have is getting a decent kick sound from the Mackie.

I have read many articles saying which frequncies to boost or cut but the issue I have with the Mackie is that it only has a high frequency 12k dial a low frequncy 80hz dial and then a mid dial which is 2 dials one that sets the frequency from 100hz to 8k and the second dial which sets the +- DB for this dial.

The problem is that with the mid I can only set 1 frequncy and then boost or cut this frequncy and the arcticles I have read suggest boosting or cutting certain frequencies within the 100hz to 8k range.

I have got the low cut turned off for the kick drum channel.

Also which is the best kick drum mic placement for a good all round live sound (the group generaky play covers from oasis, arctic monkeys, muse etc and consist or drummer, vocalist, bass guitar, lead guitar. they are generaly playing indoors in pubs etc)

I would love some advice as to how to set the 4 dials for a good low kick sound.

Many thanks for your time.

vernier 2nd October 2019 06:51 PM

You should just be able to place a mic (lets say, AKG D112) near the bass drum, and raise the level til it's somewhat heard. Leave the eq alone (if possible on that board)..I always left all eq neutral (off) on my CFX12 until I was able to replace it with a mixer that has no eq. Anyway, if you have unwanted boominess, just engage the "low cut" switch on the kick-drum mic channel ...it's a typical high-pass filter than tapers signal starting at around 100 Hz.

swiftly 3rd October 2019 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vernier (Post 14242700)
You should just be able to place a mic (lets say, AKG D112) near the bass drum, and raise the level til it's somewhat heard. Leave the eq alone (if possible on that board)..I always left all eq neutral (off) on my CFX12 until I was able to replace it with a mixer that has no eq. Anyway, if you have unwanted boominess, just engage the "low cut" switch on the kick-drum mic channel ...it's a typical high-pass filter than tapers signal starting at around 100 Hz.

Thank you I will give it a try.

The other thing that may not be helping is that the 2 speakers (Peavey Hisys 6 XT) which according to the manual is no good for responses below 100hz.

It mentions that for resposes below that you would need to add a sub.

Thanks for your time and advice.

pkuchar 3rd October 2019 02:05 PM

d112 just in the hole. boost a lot of 80 and a lot of 100 add 12 hz to taste. I have an old sr24-4 similar eq

vernier 3rd October 2019 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftly (Post 14243807)
Thank you I will give it a try.

The other thing that may not be helping is that the 2 speakers (Peavey Hisys 6 XT) which according to the manual is no good for responses below 100hz.

It mentions that for resposes below that you would need to add a sub.

Thanks for your time and advice.

Btw, are you talking about recording or live? (I'm mixed up, lol) . . if it's recording, then you'll want to end up with some sort of studio monitors.

bambamboom 3rd October 2019 08:45 PM

It depends a lot on many other factors such as the actual tuning of the drum, the speaker/PA system quality, the room etc etc, but you might want to try the "death to 500" trick.

It's as easy as it sounds. Cut at approximately 500Hz by a hilarious amount (likely as much as you can) then add a bit of LF and HF to taste.

With only 3 very limited bands of EQ this will probably get you in the ballpark of what you're looking for.

I suspect the speakers are a very limiting factor, as those are not appropriate for getting a big kick sound.

swiftly 4th October 2019 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vernier (Post 14244964)
Btw, are you talking about recording or live? (I'm mixed up, lol) . . if it's recording, then you'll want to end up with some sort of studio monitors.

Its live performances.

Many thanks

swiftly 4th October 2019 10:06 AM

Thanks guys for the great advice so far.

You have given me a few things to try and I will let you know how I get on.

kfhkh

Blaine Misner 4th October 2019 10:17 AM

try an audix D6 for a BassDrum mic. its has quite a pre EQ'ed sound to it. will likely aide with the limited eq section on the mackie

vernier 4th October 2019 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by swiftly (Post 14246009)
Its live performances.

Many thanks

Ok then, you're good to go. Btw, drums are loud, unless it's a huge place .. I'd go light on the volume, maybe a tad for a bit of fullness.