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Thomas W. Bethe 30th September 2019 10:57 AM

New telephone scam...
 
A new scam... :facepalm:

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/20...ty-scam-sounds

I got called 5 times in one day. DO NOT PUSH #1 . I did not but a lot of people do.

The other scam is someone calling about your electric rates or phone rates and they ask you very innocent sounding questions but at sometime in the call they ask for your social security number so they can verify your identity to give you the best rates, which is a tricky way to get your SS number. NEVER GIVE YOUR SS # TO ANYONE ON THE PHONE!!!

The number of SCAM phone calls has increased lately after a short lull.:cop:

T_R_S 7th October 2019 08:04 AM

when answering a call wait 5 seconds before saying hello - this fools the robot calling system into "thinking" it just called an answering machine/voicemail.
The robot call is automatically terminated.
Don't ask me how I know this its a story that way too long....

Thomas W. Bethe 12th October 2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by T_R_S (Post 14250882)
when answering a call wait 5 seconds before saying hello - this fools the robot calling system into "thinking" it just called an answering machine/voicemail.
The robot call is automatically terminated.
Don't ask me how I know this its a story that way too long....

Sometimes this works sometimes not.

Got a call recently from some "police benevolence society" The caller said my first name and then paused and started into a canned spiel. Pretty tricky. I hung up. Another Spam phone call I got was from a company calling from somewhere in Asia wanting me to switch my electric supplier. Since our town has a local electrical utility I could not switch if I wanted to. The "recorded lady" was very nice but when I tried to hang up the recorded voice switched and started to swear. First time for this. I guess they are getting desperate and pissed.

Ah the joys of living in the 21st century.:facepalm:

Desire Inspires 12th October 2019 03:53 PM

I let most calls go to voicemail. If I don’t recognize the number, I don’t pick up.

theblue1 12th October 2019 07:07 PM

I went strictly mobile back at the beginning of 2004 when I sold my house. I liked the fact that (for years), phone spammers left mobiles alone. But, of course, that has well ended.

It's frequent these days for me to get at least three junk calls a day (they come in threes per the latest algos). The numbers are almost always spoofed. For a year or two, because most of them used 'local spoofing' (your own area code and prefix followed by a bogus number), I could just block anyone not in my contacts 'from' my local prefix. But then they got wise and just started using random long distance numbers (typically spoofed, so calling back produces a wrong or dead number).

So I had to start blocking EVERYTHING not already in my contacts list. The blocked calls automatically are routed to voicemail as soon as they come in. (There's usually no message, of course.But every once in a while, I get something in a foreign language, typically Chinese or an east Asian language.)

(Using the contact list as a 'white list' does mean I have to be proactive about adding contacts -- although there's also a dedicated white list; I also have to turn off the blocking temporarily when I request a phone queue call-back, since most such callback engines use a DIFFERENT number than the number you initially called.)

It took a little looking to find the blocking tools I wanted but I now use Call Blocker (by Vlad Lee, from the Google Play Android Apps store) on my Android. I use the ad-supported free version but there's an in-app 99 cent pro app purchase to get rid of ads if one wants.

One issue, the developer is based in Russia, which, sadly, is going to make people nervous. (I have it set to only access contacts and phone, which, of course, is not nothing; I have access to storage turned off.)

Brent Hahn 16th October 2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theblue1 (Post 14261989)
I went strictly mobile back at the beginning of 2004 when I sold my house. <> It's frequent these days for me to get at least three junk calls a day...

Me too.

When I get really bugged about it, I go stand out front and wait for an "Eastern European" in a black Beemer with no plates to blow through the stop sign at the end of my block and then rip past my house doing 80. I never have to wait long. Then I throw my phone at the dumb bastard as hard as I can. But I always miss.

theblue1 16th October 2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 14268692)
Me too.

When I get really bugged about it, I go stand out front and wait for an "Eastern European" in a black Beemer with no plates to blow through the stop sign at the end of my block and then rip past my house doing 80. I never have to wait long. Then I throw my phone at the dumb bastard as hard as I can. But I always miss.

:heh:

Happily, Long Beach is too déclassé for the oligarch-wannabes. ;)

Synth Guru 17th October 2019 02:52 PM

Thankfully the FCC is cracking down on the spam or it may be that AT&T is filtering the spam. During the past month or so, the number of spam calls that I get has been greatly reduced. rockout

Thomas W. Bethe 18th October 2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Synth Guru (Post 14270290)
Thankfully the FCC is cracking down on the spam or it may be that AT&T is filtering the spam. During the past month or so, the number of spam calls that I get has been greatly reduced. rockout

5 calls yesterday from Google Ad Words, 2 from Medicare plans, 2 from a "silence at the other end" caller and 2 from some company wanting me to power wash my drive way for a 25% discount and 1 from a potential client. 11 to is not a good ratio IMHO. FWIW

Brent Hahn 18th October 2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14272040)
5 calls yesterday...

Land line?

B_and_W 18th October 2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14237986)
A new scam... :facepalm:

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/20...ty-scam-sounds

I got called 5 times in one day. DO NOT PUSH #1 . I did not but a lot of people do.

The other scam is someone calling about your electric rates or phone rates and they ask you very innocent sounding questions but at sometime in the call they ask for your social security number so they can verify your identity to give you the best rates, which is a tricky way to get your SS number. NEVER GIVE YOUR SS # TO ANYONE ON THE PHONE!!!

The number of SCAM phone calls has increased lately after a short lull.:cop:

I know these scams sound so f*cking stupid but there are many people falling for it, especially older people. And that really makes me so angry.

I got a call from some dumb bitch trying to scam me. I was stupid enough to pick it up. She said she works for a stock broker bla bla bla. I already knew that this is a scam. I asked her how did she got my phonenumber, she couldn't answer while she kept asking me if I want to earn easy money (yeah my a$$). I asked her if it's easy money why are you here scamming people? She kept insisting that she isn't a scammer. So you have a magic formula to make cash and you're selling it while you're working in a call center for a slave wage. I told her I hope you get hit by a truck, bye bye. Those idiots still try to call me, I just don't pick up. <SNIP - let's leave the racial stereotypes out of it>

theblue1 18th October 2019 07:46 PM

With regard to 'Google' calls:

Quote:

There are a few different things to consider.

It is likely that these phone calls are not coming from Google Ads at all. Scammers and aggressive companies play trickery with slick words and fast-talking nonsense in the hopes someone will turn over their accounts to them. And oftentimes, the same scam company will keep calling until you get stern with them and ask for their full name, agency name, phone number and strongly use the words "are you Google or someone that represents Google?" Ask them to send you info to your email address on file with Google (don't give them a new one) or from their google.com email address - not a Gmail email address. Only Google employees can have a google.com email address.

Google does not harass or pester anyone with any of their products. They are a well-behaved company with regards to a users wishes. They gain nothing by aggravating or upsetting you... but those fake/scammers do!

Please read this information and report them so Google can stop them from bothering you and others, too.

If the calls are genuine, one way to decrease it is by going over the "tool" icon on the top right corner of Ads and then on "Preferences". Select "Notifications" on the top of the page and turn off the options: "Customized help and performance suggestions", "Google market research" and "Special offers".
https://support.google.com/google-ad...?msgid=1473653

Synth Guru 19th October 2019 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14272040)
5 calls yesterday from Google Ad Words, 2 from Medicare plans, 2 from a "silence at the other end" caller and 2 from some company wanting me to power wash my drive way for a 25% discount and 1 from a potential client. 11 to is not a good ratio IMHO. FWIW

I'm using cell phone service only. If you're using a land line, I highly recommend you dump it.

Thomas W. Bethe 19th October 2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 14272350)
Land line?

Yes on my landline.

I am NOT a big cell phone user and still have my 10 year old flip phone for my cell phone. I am not interested in all the new technology that is super expensive. $1000 for a phone - forget it. FWIW

Desire Inspires 19th October 2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14273696)
Yes on my landline.

I am NOT a big cell phone user and still have my 10 year old flip phone for my cell phone. I am not interested in all the new technology that is super expensive. $1000 for a phone - forget it. FWIW

LMFAO!

Come into the 21st century. It’s not so bad here.

Anyway, you can get an inexpensive cell phone for $100 and get a $30 a month plan. No contract either.

Talk and text are practically free these days, with nationwide coverage. The only thing that makes cell phone plans expensive is the data package. You can just pay by the gigabyte if you aren’t interested in using data that much.

B_and_W 19th October 2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Desire Inspires (Post 14273831)
LMFAO!

Come into the 21st century. It’s not so bad here.

Anyway, you can get an inexpensive cell phone for $100 and get a $30 a month plan. No contract either.

Talk and text are practically free these days, with nationwide coverage. The only thing that makes cell phone plans expensive is the data package. You can just pay by the gigabyte if you aren’t interested in using data that much.

I've found his phones:

https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/11/34/8...Ty72khwVwQ.jpg

https://media.karousell.com/media/ph...rogressive.jpg

<SNIP - again, some sensitivity please!>

I pay 10 euro per month for unlimited texting and unlimited calls, 5GB bandwidth but I never use my phone that much only to stay in touch with a couple friends trough whatsapp, heck I use it more as an alarm clock than a phone. But you're right, there are many applications which allow you to make free phone calls via wifi like Viber, Whatsapp, Telegram etc. This isn't the 90's anymore.

Desire Inspires 19th October 2019 03:59 PM

Yeah, I remember getting $150+ a month cell phone bills when I was locked into contracts back in the early 2000s. I got charged for every phone call, every text, and more charges for “out of network” calls and texts. **** sucked.

Once they came out with the prepay phones, I ditched the contract phones and haven’t looked back.

Synth Guru 19th October 2019 04:08 PM

AT&T just sent me a link to download an app that tracks the spam calls that AT&T is auto blocking for you. Glad to see the big networks are finally doing something about spam calls. I'm sure they are being directed to do so by the FCC.kfhkh

Synth Guru 19th October 2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14273696)
Yes on my landline.

I am NOT a big cell phone user and still have my 10 year old flip phone for my cell phone. I am not interested in all the new technology that is super expensive. $1000 for a phone - forget it. FWIW

Don't be cheap! :cop:

You can finance your smart cell phone via the network provider. They just add an affordable monthly installment to your bill.

Brent Hahn 19th October 2019 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14273696)
Yes on my landline.

I am NOT a big cell phone user and still have my 10 year old flip phone for my cell phone. I am not interested in all the new technology that is super expensive. $1000 for a phone - forget it. FWIW

Tom...

I'm typing this post on my factory refurbished iPhone 5 which I got 6 months ago for $85 on eBay. The "new technology" isn't all that new or all that expensive, in fact a lot of it's free. And it's mostly designed to even be comprehensible and usable by old farts like us.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if you're "grandfathered in" (apt term) to a cell plan that has you paying more now than you might be paying for a plan with unlimited call/text/data time.

theblue1 19th October 2019 06:55 PM

You CAN (and people do) pay huge amounts for a phone -- but my old mobile -- a barely second gen Android smart phone from 2011/12 -- started acting fishy last T-day weekend and, without even realizing it was cyber-Monday, I found a new, mid-tier unlocked Moto offered for (outright) sale from my mobile provider (Ting, cheap for voice and text; data less-so) for about $90. (You might find that model over the counter for $130 or so -- but better to look for a newer release at discount; look for holiday deals between now and NY.)

My new phone's got all the junk that was on the top end phones a few years back, fingerprint scanner (handy if you keep your phone 'screen-locked'), high capacity battery, 13Mpx and 5Mpx cams, 32 GB of built-in memory -- with the ability to use cheap, add-in microSD memory -- and, I gotta say, the current Android runs a LOT better on it than it does on my cheapo tablet. (And, of course, the ability to run various spam-call-blocking apps.)

Brent Hahn 19th October 2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by B_and_W (Post 14273873)
... that mobile phone looks like a calculator...

It's not even half as cool as the Nokias I used to buy in bulk for my dad. He had Alzheimer's and they'd wind up in the washing machine, kicked under the fridge, God knows where else.

B_and_W 19th October 2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 14274262)
It's not even half as cool as the Nokias I used to buy in bulk for my dad. He had Alzheimer's and they'd wind up in the washing machine, kicked under the fridge, God knows where else.

We may laugh about these old phones but they was built like a tank. You recharge them once in 3-4 days, when you drop them their screens won't break unlike all these phones we got nowadays.

Brent Hahn 19th October 2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by B_and_W (Post 14274316)
We may laugh about these old phones but they was built like a tank. You recharge them once in 3-4 days, when you drop them their screens won't break unlike all these phones we got nowadays.

I had one of those Nokias come out of the washer dripping water and with a giant hair under the screen, but it still worked. I paid $14 each for them in batches of five.

theblue1 19th October 2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by B_and_W (Post 14274316)
We may laugh about these old phones but they was built like a tank. You recharge them once in 3-4 days, when you drop them their screens won't break unlike all these phones we got nowadays.

I loved a couple of my old flip phones. Actually, though, I have to say that my just-retired 2011/12 LG Android SEEMED to be all but indestructible.

I somehow let it go out of my hand carrying a bunch of stuff up my stairs and it fell at least 8 feet to a hard concrete walk. By then, it had been through a few nasty drops and I had a hearty half-hope it wasn't broken.

Sure enough, the back flew off (like the crumpling front end of a safety-first Mercedes) and the removable battery went sailing -- along with the tiny SIM card (well, it shook itself half out of the hinged sleeve thing)... I think my microSD card popped half out, too.

But I put it all back together and it worked FINE! (There was a kind of nasty stress scuff on one corner of the plastic case.) But the exposed (Gorilla Glass, I think) screen was fine.

Desire Inspires 27th October 2019 02:18 PM

Newest phone scam out here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=spartanntp

Thomas W. Bethe 28th October 2019 01:22 PM

I don't know who these scammers are targeting but I keep getting this phone call cellfone where the recorded voice says that I can get cash back from all my credit cards if I simply give them my credit card numbers and my pin numbers and they will "take care of the rest". Boy, I'm sure they will. I also get recorded messages from the FBI saying that they are going to come to my home and arrest me for unpaid taxes. WTF.

The scamming is always the worst from the middle of the month to the end of the month. I guess the spammers have a quota and need to meet that quota for them to "stay in business" What a MESS! I thought that the FCC was going to crack down on spammers. It, to the best of my knowledge, has not happened yet or the spammers know the end is in sight and are trying to spam everyone before it really happens. FWIW

Desire Inspires 28th October 2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe (Post 14289841)
I don't know who these scammers are targeting but I keep getting this phone call cellfone where the recorded voice says that I can get cash back from all my credit cards if I simply give them my credit card numbers and my pin numbers and they will "take care of the rest". Boy, I'm sure they will. I also get recorded messages from the FBI saying that they are going to come to my home and arrest me for unpaid taxes. WTF.

The scamming is always the worst from the middle of the month to the end of the month. I guess the spammers have a quota and need to meet that quota for them to "stay in business" What a MESS! I thought that the FCC was going to crack down on spammers. It, to the best of my knowledge, has not happened yet or the spammers know the end is in sight and are trying to spam everyone before it really happens. FWIW

It’s out of the FCC’s ability to manage at this point. The crooks are far too numerous and the FCC is a government entity with limited funding. They will need military funding to really make a dent in the problem. Even then, the crooks are specialists at stealing money and will always find a new way to get what they want.

theblue1 28th October 2019 07:16 PM

A new wrinkle on the old scam... this one shows a bit of extra cleverness...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alert-p...-text-message/

Thomas W. Bethe 31st October 2019 11:59 AM

6 calls yesterday from "Apple support" saying that my computer was polluting the internet or that they had noticed some suspicious activity on my ICLOUD account and wanted to get into my computer to "fix the problem". The women who initiates the call sounds very "Americanish" with their speech, which is a recorded announcement, but when the "technician" gets on the line with a name like "Joe" or "Scott" they have a very South East Asian accent. That is when I usually hang up. The last call from them was at 9 pm EDT. A bit late to be calling IMHO. I also got three "no one at the other end calls". FWIW