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medfly 21st September 2019 06:52 PM

Fishman fluence for jazz tone (7string7
 
Hi everyone, I own a 25.5 inch scale 7 string solid body electric guitar. It’s equipped with Bartolini humbucker pickups that are extremely clear and full range. The problem is I didn’t realize that for anything other than solo guitar that’s not a good thing. They lack that midrange “push” that typical Humbuckers do. I like the sound I can get from a les Paul style guitar for that reason, and I need guitars that can function both in jazz (clean warm setting) and fusion or rock.

My question is, between the Fishman Abasi signatures, the Fishman open core classics, and any other suggestions that could compete with the versatility or blow them out of the water soundwise, what would be some recommendations?

John Eppstein 22nd September 2019 02:56 AM

For jazz tone on a 7-string you need to save your pennies and invest in a Gibson George Van Eps model.

Good luck.

Otherwise, go to a custom luthier or give up.

All the current solid body 7 strings are designed for metal, not jazz.

nyandres 22nd September 2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by medfly (Post 14220874)
Hi everyone, I own a 25.5 inch scale 7 string solid body electric guitar. It’s equipped with Bartolini humbucker pickups that are extremely clear and full range. The problem is I didn’t realize that for anything other than solo guitar that’s not a good thing. They lack that midrange “push” that typical Humbuckers do. I like the sound I can get from a les Paul style guitar for that reason, and I need guitars that can function both in jazz (clean warm setting) and fusion or rock.

My question is, between the Fishman Abasi signatures, the Fishman open core classics, and any other suggestions that could compete with the versatility or blow them out of the water soundwise, what would be some recommendations?

What type of jazz tone are you seeking... For that modern Prog jazz tone (making assumption as you mentioned the abasi signature), the Fishman are great... I myself really like Bartolini's also.. I ask however, because all these tones are not the classic jazz tone however... I personally prefer these modern tones, and it seems what you are looking for also anyway. Have you tried making changes at the amp EQ level.

medfly 22nd September 2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nyandres (Post 14222324)
What type of jazz tone are you seeking... For that modern Prog jazz tone (making assumption as you mentioned the abasi signature), the Fishman are great... I myself really like Bartolini's also.. I ask however, because all these tones are not the classic jazz tone however... I personally prefer these modern tones, and it seems what you are looking for also anyway. Have you tried making changes at the amp EQ level.

I don’t need a straight up PAF hollow body sound. Just something that when clean can be a warm fat sound without the shrill fret noise that the Bart’s give me. The prog tone is not as crucial as I feel I can get a decent OD sound out of any pickup. Mainly, I’m after a clean sound that can provide a nice clean sound, not necessarily a classic tone but a pleasant sound. Thanks for replying

John Eppstein 29th September 2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by medfly (Post 14222516)
I don’t need a straight up PAF hollow body sound. Just something that when clean can be a warm fat sound without the shrill fret noise that the Bart’s give me. The prog tone is not as crucial as I feel I can get a decent OD sound out of any pickup. Mainly, I’m after a clean sound that can provide a nice clean sound, not necessarily a classic tone but a pleasant sound. Thanks for replying

It's probably going to be pretty difficult to find 7 string pickups that aren't voiced for metal. You might contact Lindy Fralin and see if he can do a custom wind to your specs.

Lollar offers a 7-string pickup on their website that might fit your needs.They generally run a bit more than Fralins.

nyandres 29th September 2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Eppstein (Post 14237089)
It's probably going to be pretty difficult to find 7 string pickups that aren't voiced for metal. You might contact Lindy Fralin and see if he can do a custom wind to your specs.

Lollar offers a 7-string pickup on their website that might fit your needs.They generally run a bit more than Fralins.

The barts are jazz pups though... but yeah thats not a bad idea. It sounds like he is looking for low mids of rock