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hughshouse 10th August 2019 12:32 PM

Best protocol to post tracks on Gearslutz
 
There is a wide quality spread in the recorded audio tracks posted in these threads. I am well aware of the fact that some if not most of the differential lies in the quality of the initial recordings however I suspect the delivery protocol is also a major contributor. I would appreciate some input from those of you that are much better informed than I am pursuant to these issues.
Hugh

Orgeltonmeister 10th August 2019 01:16 PM

I would like to post some time in future some examples, where can I find instructions how to do that? Does the quality stay unchanged?

studer58 10th August 2019 02:37 PM

I directly post (rather unhappily) on here mostly mp3's...so as to be able to get a reasonable amount (time-span) of playing. That's due to the meagre allocation of space given for attachments, what is it...15MB...certainly less than 20 anyhow ?

Even some folks photo postings are compromised, due to that ceiling (especially if they send a few pics within a single post) I tried to upload FLAC audio once, but it was refused....despite being listed as one of their 'approved file types'

I'll suggest that the way around it is to host the relevant file on your own 'cloud bank'...be it Dropbox, Google (or some other kind) of "Drive", or even on YouTube or Vimeo...and then post a link to that here.

That pretty much undermines any Gearsliutz imposed limit...but it puts the onus upon you for maintaining that link /'Drive' viability over the long term...lest it vanish due to deletion, and become inacccessible to future readers.

I'm sure Gearslutz would want such attachment postings to remain here in perpetuity... as a viable and germane resource supplement to a post...but their meagre space allocation gives the lie to that..if indeed it's their intention ?

So...go your own way (as the F Macs said years ago...)

Brent Hahn 10th August 2019 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hughshouse (Post 14141811)
There is a wide quality spread in the recorded audio tracks posted in these threads. I am well aware of the fact that some if not most of the differential lies in the quality of the initial recordings however I suspect the delivery protocol is also a major contributor. I would appreciate some input from those of you that are much better informed than I am pursuant to these issues.
Hugh

If you make a Soundcloud page, you can upload a big hi-fi file, tick the "downloadable" option, and people will be able to download and play the exact same thing you uploaded. It'll still stream a compressed version, though.

With my stuff, for GS purposes, I don't find the audible differences between WAV's and 320 mp3's and Soundcloud's streaming to be worth the trouble.

Folkie 11th August 2019 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 14142273)
If you make a Soundcloud page, you can upload a big hi-fi file, tick the "downloadable" option, and people will be able to download and play the exact same thing you uploaded. It'll still stream a compressed version, though.

With my stuff, for GS purposes, I don't find the audible differences between WAV's and 320 mp3's and Soundcloud's streaming to be worth the trouble.


Quote:

Originally Posted by studer58 (Post 14141975)
I directly post (rather unhappily) on here mostly mp3's...so as to be able to get a reasonable amount (time-span) of playing. That's due to the meagre allocation of space given for attachments, what is it...15MB...certainly less than 20 anyhow ?

Even some folks photo postings are compromised, due to that ceiling (especially if they send a few pics within a single post) I tried to upload FLAC audio once, but it was refused....despite being listed as one of their 'approved file types'

I'll suggest that the way around it is to host the relevant file on your own 'cloud bank'...be it Dropbox, Google (or some other kind) of "Drive", or even on YouTube or Vimeo...and then post a link to that here.

That pretty much undermines any Gearsliutz imposed limit...but it puts the onus upon you for maintaining that link /'Drive' viability over the long term...lest it vanish due to deletion, and become inacccessible to future readers.

I'm sure Gearslutz would want such attachment postings to remain here in perpetuity... as a viable and germane resource supplement to a post...but their meagre space allocation gives the lie to that..if indeed it's their intention ?

So...go your own way (as the F Macs said years ago...)

I too am frustrated by the file size limit.
Another option is to ATTACH MP3 files or short
uncompressed wav files AND
provide LINK to uncompressed wav files of any length on Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.

James Lehmann 12th August 2019 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hughshouse (Post 14141811)
There is a wide quality spread in the recorded audio tracks posted in these threads. I am well aware of the fact that some if not most of the differential lies in the quality of the initial recordings however I suspect the delivery protocol is also a major contributor. I would appreciate some input from those of you that are much better informed than I am pursuant to these issues.

I've settled on Soundcloud for several reasons:

1) You can upload your stuff in full resolution - the compressed version is what is streamed for casual listening but curious folks can download the file in full resolution if they wish and you have set the permissions correctly.

2) I think it generally sounds better than YouTube

3) Soundcloud integrates so neatly with the Gearslutz Forum - folks can just listen right there in your post without being redirected somewhere else and without having to ogle distracting visuals, like this...



It is most certainly true that there is a 'wide quality spread' in a lot of music that appears on this Forum, although this section of the Forum is far better than most because people are mindful of posting full gear details of what they're using to make their recordings. Most clips posted elsewhere and especially YouTube videos are catastrophic in providing absolutely no detail how sound was recorded and are thus basically useless in comparative terms, although if course this is the fault of the content creator and not the delivery medium per se.*

A couple of other things to note about Soundcloud:

a) Like a lot of web-based services, it's free up to a certain point - once you go past a few hours you'll need to upgrade to a 'Pro' account'; that's not a gripe, it's just a fact of life.
b) The business model of Soundcloud has been though some shaky patches - I don't know who owns and manages it now but as with many web-things (MySPace anyone?) it's possible that it might be here today and gone tomorrow, so probably wise to archive stuff permanently elsewhere.

* Yes, I have posted full recording details of the above piano recording before in another thread! :)

deedeeyeah 12th August 2019 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Hahn (Post 14142273)
(...) for GS purposes, I don't find the audible differences between WAV's and 320 mp3's and Soundcloud's streaming to be worth the trouble.

quoted for emphasis - just encode reasonably well with the encoder and resolution of your choice, suited to the material in question.

mpdonahue 13th August 2019 03:00 PM

The big issue with posting links is that when folks look up the thread in the future, those links will most likely be 404 (not found). Direct posting means that they will be available down the line.
As always, YMMV.
All the best,
-mark

avare 13th August 2019 04:11 PM

Many excellent posts. Expanding on one of themes, MP3s have multiple data rates. As an analogy 128 kbs is like 3.75 ips tape. Not the best but acceptable to the average person. There are data rates as high as 320 kbs. Much higher fidelity.

Orgeltonmeister 13th August 2019 06:04 PM

If a sound file is uploaded which is exceeding the 15Mb limit, is it automatically shortened?

studer58 13th August 2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orgeltonmeister (Post 14147271)
If a sound file is uploaded which is exceeding the 15Mb limit, is it automatically shortened?

Nope, it's just refuses to upload....however it seems the limit is more like 20Mb....add up the storage used in this recent post, with multiple audio samples: OM1 - What's it about?