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Dawson Taylor 9th August 2019 06:34 AM

Tascam HS-P82 and Nagra VI
 
At what point is Tascam going to upgrade this recorder? They normally never keep a product around this long. Same with Nagra. Both are about 10 years old.

David Spearritt 13th August 2019 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawson Taylor (Post 14139735)
At what point is Tascam going to upgrade this recorder? They normally never keep a product around this long. Same with Nagra. Both are about 10 years old.

Certainly the Nagra VI has no need for an update. An almost perfect location recorder. My nine year old machine has just has its first battery replacement and gets used up to 3 or 4 times per month on concert, location, video and CD recordings and has done so, without incident, its whole life.

philper 13th August 2019 11:30 PM

Tascam keeps machines around that sell. The DA-88, 98, 78 were made for a long time....

AB3 14th August 2019 05:33 AM

The HS-P82 has a great sound. Perhaps a touch on the sweet side of clean.
It is bulky and I wish the mirroring worked at 96K. But it is a great value if the size is not a problem.

I believe it cost $5000 at one point in time. Then Tascam, because of competition and possible recovery of R&D costs, dropped the price considerably.

So, it still has great value. (Maybe like new for about $1500? Someone correct me.

BTW, I have recordings on old Tascam tape recorders that I still cannot touch with digital. And part of that was the tape, and part of it was the electronics.

Tascam has recorder experience for decades Perhaps, some of that helped the HS-P82.

Anyway, my 2 cents on the HS-P82.

Plush 14th August 2019 02:45 PM

Both machines are great and fulfill the needs of their users. Neither requires an update.

Most people requesting updates want Dante. My response is that with only 8 channels, why would Dante be valuable? Just plug in your mic cables.

A/D conversion is excellent on both machines.

What kind of updates is the OP looking for?

studer58 14th August 2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AB3 (Post 14148162)
I believe it cost $5000 at one point in time. Then Tascam, because of competition and possible recovery of R&D costs, dropped the price considerably.

So, it still has great value. (Maybe like new for about $1500? Someone correct me.

If the price has dropped, nobody told Australia...https://www.videoguys.com.au/Shop/p/...as-hs-p82.html

As to updates, a smart one would be to enable single channel overdubs (up to a total of 8), with a firmware update similar to the Musician update made available to Sound Devices owners...which wouldn't change its functionality at all for 8-live-inputs recording folk. That would possibly widen its user-base to encompass the SD/Zoom crowd

AB3 14th August 2019 03:05 PM

Here is one of many examples at $1999 U.S.:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tascam-HS-P...8AAOSwKfVXKUSh

You can probably find that in the U.S for that price at most dealers.




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Originally Posted by studer58 (Post 14148736)
If the price has dropped, nobody told Australia...https://www.videoguys.com.au/Shop/p/...as-hs-p82.html


studer58 14th August 2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AB3 (Post 14148744)
Here is one of many examples at $1999 U.S.:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tascam-HS-P...8AAOSwKfVXKUSh

You can probably find that in the U.S for that price at most dealers.

Yes $2000US is a pretty common benchmark price today: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...eld_Audio.html

Dawson Taylor 15th August 2019 12:16 AM

On the Nagra, eight mic pres, DSD, dual SD card slots. I dont know what’s different, but, the Nagra VII sounds better, less veiled of color.

HSp82 needs an entirely updated user interface with higher resolution screen and fonts, new preamps as these have been replaced, DSD, mirroring, dual SD card slots.

Both could use a real-time interface with computing, USB-C. Both could also use updated battery - especially the Tascam, but both.

David Spearritt 15th August 2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawson Taylor (Post 14149732)
On the Nagra, eight mic pres, DSD, dual SD card slots. I dont know what’s different, but, the Nagra VII sounds better, less veiled of color.

An Anubis or Hapi will go well with these requirements. But is this too much to ask for a "portable" recorder?

panatrope 16th August 2019 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawson Taylor (Post 14151535)
No, you are just a bullying troll. Go drown more kittens since that’s your thing.

If you are unable to respond civilly to polite disagreement with your views, I suggest you find another forum in which to air them.

We are unlikely to see Nagra offering any significant update in the near future to any of its existing devices (worthy as the idea may seem). The 'update' to the Nagra Seven -> VII announced a year ago? I rest my case.

There might be more likelihood of TASCAM doing an upgrade, but with the market in a significant state of disruption due to the Trump tariffs and more advanced competitors, I wonder what priority TASCAM would be giving to investing in a product development where a major portion of its market is in the USA.

But perhaps you should address your observations to the marketing departments of TASCAM and Nagra, and let us know of any response you receive. Others in this forum would be interested, I'm sure.