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raddistribution 21st June 2019 04:39 PM

Black Lion Announces the All New B172A Dual Compressor
 
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Every so often, two incredible things, wholly enjoyable on their own, combine to form a pair so sweet and complementary, that it becomes hard to think of one without the other... Sonny & Cher, Lennon & McCartney, Snoop Dogg & Dr Dre and perhaps the greatest and most literal “dynamic duo” of all time – the 1176 and LA-2A!

The 1176 and LA-2A when used together, have become a studio stable for decades, often wired in series with each other so that one catches the audio's peaks and the other does the heavy compression. Black Lion Audio, having hit the mark with the widely adored Seventeen compressor, has struck again, combining the Seventeen’s F.E.T. circuitry with a worthy optical section in the B172A! This unit combines the two seperate '76 and 2A circuits into a single unit that allows you to route the signal in any order you like to be able to provide this very useful compression technique.

The Seventeen’s success put pressure on BLA to pair the already proven F.E.T. side with an equally formidable optical mate. The challenge was met on the B172A through the creation of a custom T4B “opto” element called the “T4BLA”. BLA’s lengthy experience in modifications lent designers the proper patience and mindset to tweak subtleties in the optical element until it was a supreme asset in the design. With a heavy attention to detail and design, the T4BLA is designed to be the single best T4B optocell available today.

Flexibility was a main goal of the B172A since its initial concept. While many engineers agree on the benefits of using both compression types, the order in which to do so is still debated. The AB-BA switch on the B172A allows for quick internal routing of the signal. The two compressors can also be used completely independent of each other when utilizing the 3rd position (link off) on the AB-BA switch. Each circuit also has stereo linking so a pair of B172A's can be used in stereo.

As always, a painstaking amount of time has been spent on choosing the best possible transformers needed for the circuit. Featuring a Cinemag input transformer on the LA-2A side, BLA’s own Chicago-wound output transformers on both circuits, high-grade signal path and decoupling capacitors, the B172A gives studio owners ultra convenient access to a pair of high quality dynamics processors that have stood the test of time while also providing a tool never before available in a single box.

1176 (Our Seventeen) & LA-2A style compression in a single 2U chassis
A/B or B/A signal routing on faceplate
Cinemag LA-2A input transformer
Chicago-wound 1176 & LA-2A output transformers
Custom designed Black Lion Audio T4B element, a.k.a. the "T4BLA"
High grade signal path and power decoupling capacitors
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ManMulcahy 21st June 2019 04:50 PM

Great concept! I actually just bought a Seventeen and have a Bluey on order. Regarding the B172A, sounds like there are no tubes, so is this ‘in the style of’ the LA2A?

raddistribution 21st June 2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ManMulcahy (Post 14052422)
Great concept! I actually just bought a Seventeen and have a Bluey on order. Regarding the B172A, sounds like there are no tubes, so is this ‘in the style of’ the LA2A?

Solid state on the 17 side and tubes on the 2a side!

ManMulcahy 21st June 2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by raddistribution (Post 14052479)
Solid state on the 17 side and tubes on the 2a side!

Nice, didn’t see it mentioned so thanks for clarifying...

JanZoo 21st June 2019 09:05 PM

So what would be the price ? shiee

Shobiz 21st June 2019 09:17 PM

$1400

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...cal-compressor

raddistribution 21st June 2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JanZoo (Post 14052974)
So what would be the price ? shiee

1399

JanZoo 21st June 2019 09:45 PM

Great, for 76 - 2A combination it's a no brainer

Kumbari 22nd June 2019 05:02 AM

Where’s the mix knob? Also sweetwater video said more T4BLA products will be coming out. Care to share?

Realtugs 22nd June 2019 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kumbari (Post 14053680)
Where’s the mix knob?

Are you talking for between the two units... or for parallel processing? Controls are all there to control "mix" of how they feed one another... and in which order. If you mean for parallel style processing...

I can't imagine ever wanting to do so in the circumstances that this bow was created for. Definitely a "100% wet" situation.

I don't think you'll find many people requesting a mix control here. Burn a channel, or a send, if you really want it. I wouldn't want to pay more money for it in this box.

raddistribution 22nd June 2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kumbari (Post 14053680)
Where’s the mix knob? Also sweetwater video said more T4BLA products will be coming out. Care to share?

The t4bla is the optocell we designed and use in this unit. It will be available for purchase separately if you would like to use it in another company's unit.

Ed Driscoll 22nd June 2019 09:04 PM

That looks very intriguing. I'll be really interested to read the reviews, particularly here, of the unit as it rolls out.

Kumbari 23rd June 2019 03:05 AM

I think’ a mix knob for the final output whatever compressor side you use, would be great.

KristopherSheehy 23rd June 2019 06:08 PM

I wish more companies were thinking like this. In a modern age where I know damn well you can fit more into a rack unit I don’t need to be taking up 5 RU when I could be taking up 2. I bet if they really wanted to they could squeeze it into 1! Not sure if I’d like a 1 RU gear ascetically but you get my point. Hope to see more like this in the future.

tcookc 28th August 2019 05:58 AM

Looks great. Anyone have a picture under the lid?

raddistribution 28th August 2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KristopherSheehy (Post 14056088)
I wish more companies were thinking like this. In a modern age where I know damn well you can fit more into a rack unit I don’t need to be taking up 5 RU when I could be taking up 2. I bet if they really wanted to they could squeeze it into 1! Not sure if I’d like a 1 RU gear ascetically but you get my point. Hope to see more like this in the future.

i wish! unfortunately the tubes and our optocell required it to be the 2u

jacobamerritt 30th October 2019 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by raddistribution (Post 14172591)
i wish! unfortunately the tubes and our optocell required it to be the 2u

Any idea on the ship date? Need a comp, but not sure I can wait months. Thanks!

raddistribution 13th November 2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jacobamerritt (Post 14293379)
Any idea on the ship date? Need a comp, but not sure I can wait months. Thanks!

We expect them to start shipping in limited quantities next month

GAVA 12th December 2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by raddistribution (Post 14319790)
We expect them to start shipping in limited quantities next month

Hi, ship date update? THANKS !!!

raddistribution 12th December 2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GAVA (Post 14379756)
Hi, ship date update? THANKS !!!

starting to ship out next week

cinstance 24th December 2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by raddistribution (Post 14379909)
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Originally Posted by GAVA (Post 14379756)
Hi, ship date update? THANKS !!!

starting to ship out next week

Just preordered one. What tubes are used? Thanks.