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jason baliban 25th September 2018 03:35 PM

What $10,000 USD can build you
 
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I just finished a small control/mixing room build in my home. Here are a few pics that show the beginning and end of the build. I will post more over the coming days.

In the end, after everything was said and done, the total cost of the build was just under $10k. Some of that cost was recouped after selling excess materials, but not a whole lot. I built everything myself, so no outside construction labor costs. The only outside help I solicited was lumber cutting. That cost was about $500.

Special thank you to John Brandt for the plans and consultation.

jB

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Skol303 25th September 2018 03:55 PM

Looks really great! Well done kfhkh

Are you able/happy to share any acoustic measurements? I'd be interested to 'see' how it sounds, so to speak.

jason baliban 25th September 2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skol303 (Post 13536285)
Looks really great! Well done kfhkh

Are you able/happy to share any acoustic measurements? I'd be interested to 'see' how it sounds, so to speak.

Thank you!

Yes, i will share the measurements when i do the final adjustments.

jB

jakezap 25th September 2018 04:24 PM

Nice work.

Was John's fee included in the 10k?
I'm in a similar situation, in that, I want to keep my costs under 10k and judging from the photos, I probably have a similar size room.

Jake

jason baliban 25th September 2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jakezap (Post 13536325)
Nice work.

Was John's fee included in the 10k?
I'm in a similar situation, in that, I want to keep my costs under 10k and judging from the photos, I probably have a similar size room.

Jake

Yes, John's fee is included in that price.

The only two areas that I can think of that can bring that price down would be cut your own wood....I had most of mine cut by a mill. The other would be the ceiling. I chose to use ceiling tiles, but if you use fabric, you could save a couple hundred.

Hope this helps.

jB

jakezap 25th September 2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jason baliban (Post 13536330)
Yes, John's fee is included in that price.

The only two areas that I can think of that can bring that price down would be cut your own wood....I had most of mine cut by a mill.

jB

Umm, I'm assuming that you mean cut your own wood (2x4's) with a table/skill saw and such, and NOT, go chop down some trees...:lol:

jason baliban 25th September 2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jakezap (Post 13536407)
Umm, I'm assuming that you mean cut your own wood (2x4's) with a table/skill saw and such, and NOT, go chop down some trees...:lol:

Yes, your assumption is correct! HA More specifically, a lot of the treatment framing was made from pieces of sheet MDF or plywood....so a lot of ripping.

jB

ciro 26th September 2018 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jason baliban (Post 13536294)
Thank you!

Yes, i will share the measurements when i do the final adjustments.

jB


Congrats, nice work, and John rooms looks lovely , and I bet it sounds superb.! Would be great to see measurements; some acousticians use NDA, not sure if John follows this rule.

Ciro

jason baliban 29th September 2018 07:48 PM

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Here is the final frequency response of the room with and without a sub. I couldnt be more happy about it.

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jB

RyanC 29th September 2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jason baliban (Post 13542918)
Here is the final frequency response of the room with and without a sub. I couldnt be more happy about it.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...1&d=1538246831

jB

Awesome work and I'm sure it sounds great in there. Any chance you would share the mdat? I'm curious what the etc and decay spec look like.

Thanks

jason baliban 1st October 2018 04:27 PM

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One of the first pieces of treatment I had to build was the membrane trap. Here are some pics and two videos of the process.

These were the toughest traps to build. The materials were also relatively expensive and challenging to acquire.





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dcwave 1st October 2018 04:52 PM

Looks nice; what are the dimensions of the room?

jason baliban 1st October 2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dcwave (Post 13545538)
Looks nice; what are the dimensions of the room?

144x180x104"

jason baliban 4th October 2018 04:14 PM

Here is a quick walk through video I did the day I finished the room.



jB

Wiggy Neve Slut 4th October 2018 07:52 PM

Inspiring! Did you build yourself ?

jason baliban 4th October 2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut (Post 13551872)
Inspiring! Did you build yourself ?

Thank you. Yes, I did everything myself.

jB

Wiggy Neve Slut 4th October 2018 08:40 PM

Fantastic work sir.

How many hours?

When are you filling it up with kit?

Deckdaddy 5th October 2018 01:06 AM

Thanks for sharing videos! I know know I can’t be bothered to attempt to build advanced acoustic stuff myself. I’ll stick to simple frames for insulation and save up for some prebuilt optioms from RPG or similar.

jason baliban 5th October 2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut (Post 13551965)
Fantastic work sir.

How many hours?

When are you filling it up with kit?

Thank you. I wish I had a way to guess how many hours. I can say it took about 6 months to complete.

I have moved most of the stuff into the room and I am getting the wiring complete this weekend.


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Originally Posted by Deckdaddy (Post 13552334)
Thanks for sharing videos! I know know I can’t be bothered to attempt to build advanced acoustic stuff myself. I’ll stick to simple frames for insulation and save up for some prebuilt optioms from RPG or similar.

Yes, it is a lot of work for sure.

Boxtone 6th October 2018 11:07 AM

Fantastic!

What fabric did you use? GOM? What color? Really calming space.

jason baliban 7th October 2018 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxtone (Post 13554711)
Fantastic!

What fabric did you use? GOM? What color? Really calming space.

Yes GOM. Blue Papier

Thank you!

ciro 8th October 2018 10:29 PM

I know the room sound is what matters, but a pity you can´t share measurements (RT60, ETC), would be great.

Ciro

b0se 8th October 2018 11:06 PM

Great work! Congrats on the build.

Eggsmack 6th January 2019 04:13 AM

Jason, would you mind showing us any photos/video of the floor-to-ceiling corner treatment behind the panels you built?

It looks like it's stuffed with soft fluffy fiberglass, but the plans in your video seem to show only some fiberglass wrapped around vertical waveguides. Are my observations accurate? I'd love to know what you ended up doing!

jason baliban 6th January 2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eggsmack (Post 13723036)
Jason, would you mind showing us any photos/video of the floor-to-ceiling corner treatment behind the panels you built?

It looks like it's stuffed with soft fluffy fiberglass, but the plans in your video seem to show only some fiberglass wrapped around vertical waveguides. Are my observations accurate? I'd love to know what you ended up doing!

I did as the plans indicated. The thing about it is that the insulation should be compressed as little as possible, so when you wrap the guides it really just looks like i stuffed the insulation in there randomly.

I hope this makes sense?

j

Eggsmack 6th January 2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jason baliban (Post 13723558)
I did as the plans indicated. The thing about it is that the insulation should be compressed as little as possible, so when you wrap the guides it really just looks like i stuffed the insulation in there randomly.

I hope this makes sense?

j

So the corners had open space in them? Interesting! What thickness/type of fiberglass did you use? How did you mount it to the boards?

Don't mind me, just researching how to treat the low end in my room... gooof

jason baliban 6th January 2019 04:44 PM

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Mostly done. One day I will build a real desk.

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jason baliban 6th January 2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eggsmack (Post 13723564)
So the corners had open space in them? Interesting! What thickness/type of fiberglass did you use? How did you mount it to the boards?

Don't mind me, just researching how to treat the low end in my room... gooof

I believe it was R13. I used zip ties. There is probably a better way, as zip ties do compress the insulation.

JayPee 7th January 2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ciro (Post 13559483)
I know the room sound is what matters, but a pity you can´t share measurements (RT60, ETC), would be great.

Ciro

+1


What is the distance of mic-speakers for your measurement? Is it with the desk and others furnitures installed?


Did you do some "wave guides"?

Cheers,

J.

jason baliban 8th January 2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JayPee (Post 13724866)
+1


What is the distance of mic-speakers for your measurement? Is it with the desk and others furnitures installed?


Did you do some "wave guides"?

Cheers,

J.

The measurement was done at my sitting position. Most of the furniture was in the room at the time of measurement.

jB