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Solar 28th August 2018 08:57 PM

Tascam Model 24: The Multi-Track Live Recording Console of the New Era
 
Here's the new Tascam Model 24. A classic Reborn


https://www.tascam.eu/pics/model24_top.jpg


https://www.tascam.eu/pics/model24_left_angle.jpg



For more specs:

Model 24 | OVERVIEW | TASCAM - International Website -

rattleshock 28th August 2018 09:30 PM

Mackie Onyx 1640i on steroids :) This looks like an interesting concept, and very stylized. I'd be interested to know how stable the drivers are for USB connectivity. As always, until there are units to demo, the sound quality of the preamps, compressor, FX and EQ remains unkown. I will say that this may very well fill a hole in the audio recording industry. Not requiring a computer, and having it record to an SD card, and to be able to mix from SD card playback is very useful. This will most likely make live recording (pending channel count requirements) and those wanting a simplistic way to record without needing a computer, DAW and interface very happy. Well done, Tascam.

nickknack 29th August 2018 12:33 AM

Wtf no midi.

Cheers

nickknack 29th August 2018 12:36 AM

Price check?

Cheers

nickknack 29th August 2018 12:46 AM

On further investigation Sweetwater has it listed at $999 but not yet available.

Zoom has its digital system at same price, L20

Cheers

postfader 29th August 2018 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nickknack (Post 13491241)
On further investigation Sweetwater has it listed at $999 but not yet available.

Zoom has its digital system at same price, L20

Cheers

Yes, but too bad the Tascam maxes out at 48K 24 bit resolution an an audio interface compared to the zoom which does 96K 24 bit. Then again, it looks like the Tascam is more geared towards live sound market.

mudhoney 30th August 2018 05:49 AM

Seems a reply to the Soundcraft Signature MTK 22 !

Tui 31st August 2018 02:35 AM

I love the design.

t-bone 31st August 2018 04:13 PM

wish they had inserts on all mono channels instead of just the first 2.

ThetaAlpha970 31st August 2018 07:56 PM

Can you overdub?

ardis 31st August 2018 09:30 PM

I'm wondering how will stack up to Zoom and Sound Devices recorders for pres and conversion? Cool unit, I hope they used the 7000 as an inspiration.....

reason108 1st September 2018 01:28 PM

Come on, Tascam! Stop playing with our emotions! You know what we really want! Yes, it is time for the return of an updated version of the Tascam 388! That is the only multi-track stand alone analog mixing console/recorder that we really want! Get with the program, Tascam! This 2018! Give us back our analog!

EvilRoy 1st September 2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by reason108 (Post 13496603)
Come on, Tascam! Stop playing with our emotions! You know what we really want! Yes, it is time for the return of an updated version of the Tascam 388! That is the only multi-track stand alone analog mixing console/recorder that we really want! Get with the program, Tascam! This 2018! Give us back our analog!

Never understood the attraction of those things, 8 tracks on narrow format strapped to a crappy mixer. Except for tape cost, 1/2" 8 track and a better mixer was always a cheaper way to go. Not saying it didn't sound good. Have a buddy who still uses one, just never thought it sounded as good as my 80-8.

But yeah, it would be nice if Tascam even made a 1/4" 2 track again.

johnnynash 1st September 2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reason108 (Post 13496603)
Come on, Tascam! Stop playing with our emotions! You know what we really want! Yes, it is time for the return of an updated version of the Tascam 388! That is the only multi-track stand alone analog mixing console/recorder that we really want! Get with the program, Tascam! This 2018! Give us back our analog!

This x 1000! They actually had a really cool sound. Perfect for dirty rocknroll/blues. Wish I still had mine.

EvilRoy 1st September 2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnynash (Post 13496843)
This x 1000! They actually had a really cool sound. Perfect for dirty rocknroll/blues. Wish I still had mine.

Yeah, but...but...but...

A 388 still typically sells for around $1500, a Tascam 1/2" can be had for around #350- $500. The mixer in the 388 was about the same as my old M-50, dog meat. Surely a deck and a mixer is a better deal. Still don't get why the 388 gets so much love, but it does.

retractablezing 3rd September 2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilRoy (Post 13496908)
Still don't get why the 388 gets so much love, but it does.

Did you own one? I did and still miss it, despite the bulkiness, which is the biggest setback. The thing practically maintained itself and is very nice to look at too.

Anyway, I got one back when it cost 350€ and I think that's what I made when I sold it as well, but in the end I prefer a 244, much better for your back too and a tad more fun. But there's something to that machine, i can assure you.

Not that there's anything wrong with your rationale, in theory it would be correct, but in reality it's really not, unless you're going for fidelity, which I have no interest in to be honest. I record to a 4 track surrounded by valve gear from the 40s and 50s, the 388's tape width was never an issue for me, you'd be surprised with what happens when you surround these "narrow tape width machines" with transformer coupled well made and maintained valve gear. If anything, and surprisingly, the 388 can sound a bit too hi-fi for my taste.

I think you have a problem/irritation with the 388. Sort of, if not exactly like the cassette police that loves to show up unannounced when 4 tracking or mixing down to cassette is mentioned on a thread, when they really have no place there. Not that there's anything wrong with having an opinion on using this type gear/format and acting accordingly regarding your own choices, but most of those posts are just irritated people venting about what's really not their business and trying to convince others that there's no merit in doing things like that.

A 388 can sound great, has a lot of range actually, it's really fun and there's something to be said about the all-in-1 format. I've always liked it, from 4 tracks to siabs. It can also sound special and cohesive, there's a "glue" going on, but it can also sound like crap - like most things, it depends on who's using it and what the user can take out of it. I can't make a digital track sound good enough to like it, but i spend my days seeing engineers do just that, mixing voice-overs with old run of the mill plugins. I can make a 4 track spit out something quite charming, though, it's effortless and has to do with not only the electronics, but also the workflow and choices you have to make with such limited track count and what bouncing will do to the sound. But that's beyond the point, i guess, in the end the 388 wasn't for me and something similar evidently will never exist again.

Back on topic, and despite seeming to have their hearts in the right place, Tascam can hardly get the features on their current siabs right, especially the need to integrate multiple outboard which is getting better and cheaper by the day. Loosing a few tracks, the crappy built in fx and building a better analogue mixer would go a long way in terms of what siabs should be in this age. If this new piece can overdub and truly work as a standalone recorder, i'm certainly interested. But not until they trim it down a few tracks and loose the "live" aspect.

cheu78 3rd September 2018 12:59 PM

The concept is good, but there's no inserts.. not on the channels and not even on the stereo bus.. :facepalm:

This is an el cheapo joke.. sorry Tascam.. I can record digitally multitrack with just about any digital console and a dante license (although probably not for 999$)..
maybe I'm missing the point, but who's this designed for?

I expected much more from Tascam..

Said that it might sound decent..

howdy

Cheu

doom64 4th September 2018 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mudhoney (Post 13493110)
Seems a reply to the Soundcraft Signature MTK 22 !

I wasn't aware that the MTK 22 records as a standalone device? Doesn't it only work with a computer?

SocietyOfMind 5th September 2018 11:50 AM

If these are the preamps from the HS-P82 (called Ultra-HDDA in TASCAM-speak) it may sound very good indeed. However, there's very little information regarding their lineage on the TASCAM site. Since the takeover by Gibson Brands, I have noticed fewer product specialists on forums, which is a pity...

ardis 5th September 2018 05:56 PM

Hmmm Gibson? Not a wonderful company...... The make it or break it with this is conversion and pres...... Curious since I got a SD Mix Pre6M for a stand alone on the strength of the pres/conversion. It's a cool little unit, but small is a bit fiddly....

Fleer 6th September 2018 02:16 AM

Gibson? :facepalm: abduction

joestopka 15th September 2018 05:43 AM

Yes you can overdub and bounce tracks

joestopka 15th September 2018 05:44 AM

yes these are the HDDA Pre's from the HSP82 and the US20x20

Deleted ee61a28 16th September 2018 05:29 AM

can the preamps be bypassed to used outboard preamps?

soggy mittens 16th September 2018 05:41 AM

I wish companies wouldn't count tape/aux in as a channel and stereo TRS inputs as two channels within the name of the product. This has 16 mic pres it should be labeled as a Tascam 16. hooppie

Jchop 18th September 2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deleted ee61a28 (Post 13521066)
can the preamps be bypassed to used outboard preamps?

Can’t you bypass the preamps by going through the channels line in?

adirondack 18th September 2018 09:16 PM

Blast from the Past
 
I love this; it's not meant to replace pro gear. But more an attempt to fuse old and new and a fun way to get back into Tascam which many of us grew up with – 4 tracks, reel to reel, and DA–88s. Hey, I may even have to dust of those old Hi8 tapes. For the same price as a Mackie 1604 you get a few extra features and a trip down memory lane. Not such a bad deal.
Quality and functionality remains to be seen...

Deleted ee61a28 19th September 2018 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jchop (Post 13524698)
Can’t you bypass the preamps by going through the channels line in?

that is what I'd like to know.
It has only 2 inserts and the line in's buy unless someone in the know chimes in or Tascam releases the manual/signal flow chart ...

who knows?

Man-Machine 19th September 2018 08:10 PM

This is excellent! I mostly work out of the box with a Mackie Onyx 1220i. I use a computer just for audio recording and playback, nothing else. With this mixer I'll finally be able to ditch the computer.

I only wish they also offered a smaller cheaper version with less channels though.

ardis 19th September 2018 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Man-Machine (Post 13526936)
This is excellent! I mostly work out of the box with a Mackie Onyx 1220i. I use a computer just for audio recording and playback, nothing else. With this mixer I'll finally be able to ditch the computer.

I only wish they also offered a smaller cheaper version with less channels though.

You may want to look at the MixPres then. They are tiny tho, and getting a software update for external controllers. Tascam is workable right away, and if the pres and converters are good, this looks like a winnah! I love stand alones and use the computer for mixing....