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sentokan 14th July 2017 11:59 AM

Behringer Model D
 
So where is it? They anounced a price drop but I don t see them on any shop??

Deleted User 14th July 2017 12:01 PM

The disrupter got disrupted. Back to the drawing board.

Why another thread, though?

sentokan 14th July 2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12736705)
The disrupter got disrupted. Back to the drawing board.

Why another thread, though?

I don t know what u mean?

didn t find any thread except a closed one, so..

marcgood 14th July 2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sentokan (Post 12736728)
I don t know what u mean?

didn t find any thread except a closed one, so..

I think he means the SE-02 popped up to steal Uli's thunder, which is far more feature rich and has a far superior sound to anything Uli demonstrated, for not much more money. This imo opinion caused him to drop the price.

Deleted User 14th July 2017 05:50 PM

I think they closed the thread because of rampant speculation, personal attacks, and all sorts of other bogus things.


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Originally Posted by marcgood (Post 12737194)
I think he means the SE-02 popped up to steal Uli's thunder, which is far more feature rich and has a far superior sound to anything Uli demonstrated, for not much more money. This imo opinion caused him to drop the price.


marcgood 14th July 2017 07:06 PM

Just wanted to mention the upcoming Dreadbox Medusa will be another shot fired over Behringer's bow. There is certainly no lack of competitors in this space. If Uli's D is anything other than outstanding it will quickly fall into irrelevance.

goony 14th July 2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by marcgood (Post 12737395)
Just wanted to mention the upcoming Dreadbox Medusa will be another shot fired over Behringer's bow. There is certainly no lack of competitors in this space. If Uli's D is anything other than outstanding it will quickly fall into irrelevance.

Not til December yet..

Deleted User 14th July 2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaphod Betamax (Post 12737261)
I think they closed the thread because of rampant speculation, personal attacks, and all sorts of other bogus things.

I did not know that. I am a stranger in a strange land.

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Originally Posted by marcgood (Post 12737395)
Just wanted to mention the upcoming Dreadbox Medusa will be another shot fired over Behringer's bow. There is certainly no lack of competitors in this space. If Uli's D is anything other than outstanding it will quickly fall into irrelevance.

Yep. Good enough isn't going to cut it anymore. The Uli-surper better come-up with something exceptional.

kcearl 14th July 2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12737506)



Yep. Good enough isn't going to cut it anymore. The Uli-surper better come-up with something exceptional.

Why?


I reckon at $300 it just has to sound a bit better than a monologue to sell a bucketload

Deleted User 14th July 2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcearl (Post 12737522)
Why?I reckon at $300 it just has to sound a bit better than a monologue to sell a bucketload

Price isn't the only factor in a purchase - Behringer is many things, but cool is not one of them. I mean, I own a few Behringer products, but they're not listed on my studio card.

The image-conscious muso will only choose Behringer over Roland/Studio Electronics and Dreadbox if the Model D is demonstrably superior. Based on what I've seen and heard of the SE-02 that will take some doing.

goony 14th July 2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12737568)
Price isn't the only factor in a purchase - Behringer is many things, but cool is not one of them. I mean, I own a few Behringer products, but they're not listed on my studio card.

The image-conscious muso will only choose Behringer over Roland/Studio Electronics and Dreadbox if the Model D is demonstrably superior. Based on what I've seen and heard of the SE-02 that will take some doing.

Image-Conscious...Doesnt stop Daft Punk using Behringer BCR2000 onstagege and doesnt stop Vile Electrodes proudly showing a Deepmind 12 upfront either..

Alrod 14th July 2017 09:03 PM

Sounds like they have to do a model name change:

Behringer Model D-OA :lol:

rsaintjohn 14th July 2017 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by goony (Post 12737604)
Image-Conscious...Doesnt stop Daft Punk using Behringer BCR2000 onstagege and doesnt stop Vile Electrodes proudly showing a Deepmind 12 upfront either..

That's why they wear masks

kcearl 14th July 2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12737568)
Price isn't the only factor in a purchase - Behringer is many things, but cool is not one of them. I mean, I own a few Behringer products, but they're not listed on my studio card.

The image-conscious muso will only choose Behringer over Roland/Studio Electronics and Dreadbox if the Model D is demonstrably superior. Based on what I've seen and heard of the SE-02 that will take some doing.

The image conscious muso aint buying a minologue either...let alone any Behringer

It doesnt have to sound mind blowing, it doesnt even have to sound as good as the se-02, at $200 cheaper it just has to sound good imo

We'll see, even if it was a 1:1 most of this place would never admit it. I wouldnt worry to much if I was Uli...just make sure its a decent mono with a bit of moog flavour and sweetwater will be chucking them out to the great unwashed masses quicker than than you can say the deepminds not cool

kcearl 14th July 2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rsaintjohn (Post 12737616)
That's why they wear masks

:lol:

rsaintjohn 14th July 2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kcearl (Post 12737618)
...just make sure its a decent mono with a bit of moog flavour and sweetwater will be chucking them out to the great unwashed masses quicker than than you can say the deepminds not cool

Speaking of Sweetwater, I wonder what ever happened to the whole "we posted the preorder a week too early"? Wasn't that two weeks ago?

kcearl 14th July 2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rsaintjohn (Post 12737628)
Speaking of Sweetwater, I wonder what ever happened to the whole "we posted the preorder a week too early"? Wasn't that two weeks ago?

Yup, I was about to checkout when I thought I aint wearing no mask?!?


They said they were honouring the orders, part of me believes some intern got the price $100 too little and the resulting pre orders will take until 2019 to cover...

The other part of me's gone to make a coffee so I dont know how he feels.

marcgood 14th July 2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by goony (Post 12737604)
Image-Conscious...Doesnt stop Daft Punk using Behringer BCR2000 onstagege and doesnt stop Vile Electrodes proudly showing a Deepmind 12 upfront either..

To be fair people only look at their fancy head wear and don't notice the gear at all. And Vile who?....Never heard of them.

marcgood 14th July 2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rsaintjohn (Post 12737628)
Speaking of Sweetwater, I wonder what ever happened to the whole "we posted the preorder a week too early"? Wasn't that two weeks ago?

I'm starting to think the D is much further away from prime time than it seemed weeks ago, and even then it was clear a lot of work was needed to even make it sound remotely musical.

Deleted User 14th July 2017 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kcearl (Post 12737618)
The image conscious muso aint buying a minologue either...let alone any Behringer

But I thought Aphex Twin invented electronic music? You know, like Quentin Tarantino invented film.

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Originally Posted by kcearl (Post 12737618)
It doesnt have to sound mind blowing, it doesnt even have to sound as good as the se-02, at $200 cheaper it just has to sound good imo

I haven't seen any confirmation of that $300 SRP yet, but, assuming the price tag's correct, for an extra $200, the SE-02 offers a lot more than the Behringer, to my mind at least. Quite apart from the SE-02's programmability, xmod and bypassable-DDL (I reserve judgement on the sequencer), the Studio Electronics and Roland pedigree counts for a lot, at least to anyone aged 30 or over.

kcearl 14th July 2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12737684)
But I thought Aphex Twin invented electronic music? You know, like Quentin Tarantino invented film.



I haven't seen any confirmation of that $300 SRP yet, but, assuming the price tag's correct, for an extra $200, the SE-02 offers a lot more than the Behringer, to my mind at least. Quite apart from the SE-02's programmability, xmod and bypassable-DDL (I reserve judgement on the sequencer), the Sound Electronics and Roland pedigree counts for a lot, at least for anyone aged 30 and over.

Well Im 50 and I dont care :heh:

Like I said we'll have to see...Im not in the market for any of the three of them, but I would like behringer to succeed in this so they move on and produce something a bit more exciting next.

I also wish Roland had taken the boutique idea to an XL version just in size alone. The format just seems wrong for more complicated UI's, but what do I know.

ToyBox 14th July 2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marcgood (Post 12737672)
To be fair people only look at their fancy head wear and don't notice the gear at all. And Vile who?....Never heard of them.

You couldn't see Daft's gear on stage anyway*, it was hidden inside a Pyramid of Light rockout



* Some cool gear shots in magazines and whatnot thought.

Deleted User 14th July 2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marcgood (Post 12737672)
And Vile who?....Never heard of them.

Vile Electrodes. Big in St Leonards, population 7,000.

Behringer gave them a DM12.

rsaintjohn 14th July 2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12737728)
Big in St Leonards

Love that song, by Alphavile

Alrod 14th July 2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcearl (Post 12737618)
It doesnt have to sound mind blowing, it doesnt even have to sound as good as the se-02, at $200 cheaper it just has to sound good imo

Nothing personal, but some people still want better than good. At these low prices, Behringer is cutting a lot of corners. Anyone expecting a Moog D clone out of this is going to be disappointed. This synth is targeted for entry level players. Sure you might get some pros that us it, but at the end of the day it's going to be a cheap synth.

I am a firm believer that more expensive does not always equal better. So when I say "cheap", I mean more in terms of quality, components, and sound.

kcearl 14th July 2017 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alrod (Post 12737792)
Nothing personal, but some people still want better than good. At these low prices, Behringer is cutting a lot of corners. Anyone expecting a Moog D clone out of this is going to be disappointed. This synth is targeted for entry level players. Sure you might get some pros that us it, but at the end of the day it's going to be a cheap synth.

I am a firm believer that more expensive does not always equal better. So when I say "cheap", I mean more in terms of quality, components, and sound.

well good, better, whatever, its all personal taste...though Id agree that anyone thinking this will be an exact 1:1 will likely be disappointed.

I just dont want it to sound bad...the monologues an excellent little mono, with plenty of features, built to a price...if the behringer is too Ill be happy, just so it doesnt stop them from continuing on this journey

I know what you are saying entry level, or beginners, but I used the volcas out of interest...I could make an entire album out of them and Im experienced enough that most of my stuff sounds average to above average for my skill set...it wasnt the volcas, or any of my synths sounds, that hold me back...$300 are only entry level because theyre easier to afford, not because of what they can produce. I think we forget this in here and argue 20 pages over differences that really dont matter that much. Not a rant or directed at you, just the other part of me came back with the coffee ;)

Looping Loddar 14th July 2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Licudi (Post 12736705)
The disrupter got disrupted. Back to the drawing board.

Why another thread, though?

It's a clever tactics. Just to disrupt the disrupter! the goal: to make the disrupter disrupt again.

Jamie munro 14th July 2017 10:43 PM

Same mongs pop up time and time again :facepalm:

Sad really

kcearl 14th July 2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie munro (Post 12737824)
Same mongs pop up time and time again :facepalm:

Sad really

lol @ mongs :cop:

Jamie munro 14th July 2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sentokan (Post 12736703)
So where is it? They anounced a price drop but I don t see them on any shop??

The date was always aimed at the end of year as per the big guy himself.

I expect their urge to make this better has only become stronger, the silence speaks volumes IMO.