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stevep 11th September 2016 10:50 AM

INSPIRATION Recording Studio - Philippines - SteveP Studio Construction Thread
 
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Introduction
After a year of planning and much prayer we started construction from the ground up on a new studio. The main focus of this studio will be recording, producing and developing Christian artists. This is also a teaching facility, Classes will range from recording and mixing to music and vocal classes. Included is a School of Worship and a Christian Radio Station.

The studio and classes are open to the public.

It is a Huge challenge to build this in the Philippines,. The materials we have here are not like what we are used to in the US and prices are high.
So as we go through this thread and the construction there will be lots of improvisation and creative use of materials.

I am from the USA and built 2 studios there, Creation Studios in CA was the last one, some of you might still remember the construction thread. Steve's new Recording Studio from the start

My wife Cindy and I have been serving as Christian missionaries in the Philippines for the last 5 years, She teaches at a Preschool on the campus where I am building the studio.

Studio Location
There are not many studios in the Philippines,. Its not like the US where almost everyone has a studio in their bedroom, there is really no place for people to record here.

I am building this on the grounds of the Calvary Bible College in Dumaguete from the ground up.
It is a very quiet area so I don't have to worry about isolation from the outside world.

Building
The main structure is Concrete Blocks, some of the interior isolation walls will also be Blocks. Other inside walls use Hardiflex Fiber Cement Board (the termites eat the drywall here and its hard to get and expensive) the Live Room and Control Room slabs will be isolated.

I designed the facility myself, and tried to make it a simple, easy to build and easy to work in. Taking what I have learned from the past 2 studios I built, owned and operated.
I have been doing this since the 80s.. so I have an idea of how I like to work and the sound I want form the Live Room and Control Room.

The building is 50'x34' with a 14' ceiling in the Control Room and 14 to 18 ft angled ceilings in the Live Room.

There is a Control Room, Live Room, One Iso, Bathroom, Machine Room and a office area that will be the temporary Radio Station. All the rooms will be wired with Tie Lines.

Cooling and ventilation will be handled with a few Split Type aircons and a Fresh Air System.


stevep 11th September 2016 10:52 AM

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The GEAR
A huge challenge is getting the GEAR ! Yes I will have a Large Format ANALOG Console ! cooge
And Soffit Mounted Mains.

I bought a D&R Octagon 52ch from my friend Daniel in AU. It was well taken care of and now it is sitting here in storage waiting for the studio to be built. (its hard to look at the crate and not open it knowing what's inside)

I have to ship all the gear here,. I cant buy what I need in the Philippines,. so the shipping is a challenge and a huge part of the cost of the facility.


The Long Crate is the Console Frame, the other has all the Modules, Power Supplies, Cables, plus all Gepco Multipair I need to wire the studio with. ( I ordered it from AU because they don't sell that kind of wire here )

The Crate on the Left contains the Speakers I will mount in the Soffit, the Amps and Crossover. (this came from the US)


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stevep 11th September 2016 11:51 AM

Construction
Starting with some Pics of the construction.

Sorry if these are boring now… But it will get better as we move into the good stuff!


I had to remove a large tree and a clothes washing station that was not being used.. it turned into 2 weeks of work as our foundation columns needed to go right where the foundation for the station was… Of Coarse!,.. it wouldn't be studio construction if we didn't have a challenge before we even started... hahaa

There are 16 Columns and a Beam that goes around the top,. that is the main structure. Then the Concrete Blocks fill in the areas between the columns and beam.

Its hard for me to get used to how they build things here.,.. but I am going with the way they do it.


Starting the Layout .. This was after 2 weeks of trying to remove that wash station hittt


The Footings for the 16 Columns are 3'x3' Its mostly sand in this area so easy diging,.. but we did find some rocks


That's my job for a few days... cutting rebar

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Setting the first rebar for the columns kfhkh

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Some Rebar Columns

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My friend Joel tying the wire, and Forman Richard

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First Cement !! rockout

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Richard pouring the first column

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More Progress

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Richard pouring the first section of a column

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More Progress...hittt

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Now we have a few columns poured all the way to the top

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Now we have 11 Columns all the way up,. only 5 left..

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Next week we start the Top Beam. When that's finished we will move all the wood to the other side to build the last 5 Columns and then the Beam for that section.

Then we will have the Frame for the building kfhkh

stevep 11th September 2016 12:04 PM

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If you want to see more pictures you can go to the Inspiration Recording Studio Facebook Page

There are more pics there,. and I will add lots more as I go,.. I don't want to bore you all with so many pics here.

peachh

drBill 12th September 2016 04:18 AM

NICE Steve!!!! Great to see things taking shape. Look forward to the progress..... kfhkhkfhkh

stevep 12th September 2016 04:32 AM

Thanks drBill ! kfhkh Gota start somewhere... Cant wait to be working on the inside part. :)

I'm amazed at how much work the guys got done in only a few weeks, Filipinos are hard workers with Big hearts

BDaggerhart 14th September 2016 11:04 PM

Hey, I'm excited about this! I've read your entire previous construction thread and look forward to seeing what you do differently this time!

stevep 15th September 2016 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BDaggerhart (Post 12137133)
Hey, I'm excited about this! I've read your entire previous construction thread and look forward to seeing what you do differently this time!

Thank you BDaggerhart kfhkh And thanks for reading the Creation Studios thread :) it was a long thread !

I hope this thread gets to help as many people as that one did,. back in those days it was in the 'Hi End' section and got lots more exposure.. Now in the studio build section not as many people see the construction threads.

Thanks again!
peachh

stevep 17th September 2016 09:45 AM

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We got a long section of the Top Beam rebar done today kfhkh

On Monday we will finish the rest of the rebar for this section of the beam and then build forms then pour the concrete for this section of the beam.

Its hard to be working up that high, 15ft and installing all the stirrups in place, plus its been really hot.


stevep 17th September 2016 09:54 AM

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Here is the Super High Tech special tool we use for bending the stirrups hittt :lol:



stevep 17th September 2016 10:09 AM

For more information on the studio please Like our Facebook Page

Inspiration Recording Studio Facebook Page

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...1&d=1474126520

stevep 23rd September 2016 08:08 AM

Hey guys,. Comments, Questions and Suggestions are welcome and encouraged ! kfhkh

peachh

stevep 25th September 2016 03:54 PM

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Well,. here are some more pics... Hope there not to boring... khrthjdrt

We almost finished the Forms for this section of the Top Beam.

Should be pouring concrete for the beam Monday or Tuesday.

I cant wait to be done with this, its scary up there on that wood scaffolding.. wworried


jtienhaara 25th September 2016 04:19 PM

Not boring! Every bit of it is educational, and part of an intriguing story. Keep the photos coming.

I've been quietly following your builds for years, building vicarious studios in my mind. Much less manual labour this way, and I'm afraid of heights. Hope it's not windy up there on the scaffolding. wworried

I know it's a ways off yet, but I can't wait to see what you do / build for furniture and racks. Good luck and keep up the inspiring work!

Johann

stevep 25th September 2016 04:28 PM

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Rebar work for this section of the Beam is done... Now building the Forms.


stevep 25th September 2016 04:51 PM

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stevep 25th September 2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jtienhaara (Post 12157367)
Not boring! Every bit of it is educational, and part of an intriguing story. Keep the photos coming.

I've been quietly following your builds for years, building vicarious studios in my mind. Much less manual labour this way, and I'm afraid of heights. Hope it's not windy up there on the scaffolding. wworried

I know it's a ways off yet, but I can't wait to see what you do / build for furniture and racks. Good luck and keep up the inspiring work!

Johann

Thanks Johann, I appreciate that you are following this and the Creation build tread kfhkh

I like your way,.. keep it in your mind ! :) hahha much less stress :lol:
Yes. ! I cant wait to get to the racks, audio wiring and acoustical work cooge

Its not to windy in this area for now,.. I hope we can get the main structure done before Typhoon season,.. its only a month or two away.

But it is Hot here hjghfgg 35c to 40c most days.

I would have allot more done by now if I had more guys working (there are 6 of us) but right now my budget wont allow it. Plus a new baby on he way hopefully this week ! really too much going on in my mind now... hahahha confoosed

peachh

stevep 25th September 2016 05:29 PM

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We had some time to dig the last 5 Footing holes for the last 5 Columns. This area is mostly sand But,... in this hole we found the rocks... hittt Not too bad though. When they built some of the buildings here there were some wheelbarrow size rocks in the way, looks like so far we are good :)





Last of the holes we have to dig. (Until the septic tank) :facepalm:




drBill 25th September 2016 06:28 PM

Steve - all digging is by hand? :amaze:wworriedhidzwworried:amaze:

drBill 25th September 2016 06:30 PM

Also, if you have elevation and/or floor plan drawings you could put up that would be awesome. It's a little hard to "get the picture" of what's going on.

Oh, and if you'd care to touch on the planning stages, permits and inspections as compared to the USA that would killer!!

Take care, and get some sleep before the baby comes!!!!

stevep 26th September 2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by drBill (Post 12157582)
Also, if you have elevation and/or floor plan drawings you could put up that would be awesome. It's a little hard to "get the picture" of what's going on.

Oh, and if you'd care to touch on the planning stages, permits and inspections as compared to the USA that would killer!!

Take care, and get some sleep before the baby comes!!!!

Yes drBill, we are digging all by hand hittt Actually everything is done by hand, we do have a few power tools and a cement mixer,. but those are a luxury in the Philippines. I don't think my guys have ever used a skill saw or miter/chop saw before.


I will post some SketchUp drawings to show the layout kfhkh (i can post the actual blueprint drawings -its only 5 pages- but that's kinda boring,.. just let me know if anyone wants to see that)

I did all the Planning, Drawings and Layout myself for the Blueprints and then had an architect convert them into AutoCAD for printing and do any structural stuff needed. His fee was about 100$ including the printing.

I spent almost a year figuring out how i wanted the layout and dimensions,.. i started off with a much different layout than i have now,.. it was so cool but cost way to much and way more complex to build. So i simplified it and went with close dimensions to Creation Studios, fixing some things that should make it sound better.



As for the Permits / Inspections,.. its really a joke.. :facepalm: Most people here don't even get permits... they wait till its done and if the City catches them they fill an "as built" permit.. but I wanted to do it the legal way.

The permits took under 2 months and cost me about 150$ plus about 60$ to have a guy do all the running around and standing in line for me :)

There are NO inspections during construction... :amaze: (even though I think they are supposed to)

(i think in the US every step requires a inspection.. dig the hole, get inspected, set the rebar, inspect, pour the cement, inspect,. etc...
So that is a Huge time saver and cost saver.

I think there will be a inspector come when its all done and walk through... I don't know if he looks at the plans or not. :lol:

Overall the cost of construction and labor here is much lower than the US. But some of the materials are about the same cost or more.


And some of the things we use in studio building are not available. Simple things like Drywall screws, Deck screws, Caulking, Insulation, (yea its 95*f here and they don't use insulation in their homes) Drywall is hard to find,.. but then the termites eat the paper anyway so I cant use that.
I had to search every store to find the only 4' level in the city..lol no 32oz framing hammers,. only 16oz finish hammers,. (they use that to pound the 4" nails :facepalm: ) What else,.. oh yea,. no extension cords, I had to make my own.. The wood here is cut like they used to do it in the old days... all on a home made table saw, a 2x4 is really 2"x4" and all lumber is ruff cut so you never have 2 pieces that are the same size. :lol: we do have good marine plywood,. but not much use in studio building and the termites love it. No pre-hung doors, Its hard to find 3 prong outlets.. they don't use Ground wires here,. only 2 hot wires. (of course i will use 3 prong outlets and grounds) but its not required in the permits.. lol 220 volts and no ground.. :facepalm:

I'm sure there's more,... but as you can see they way they work and build things here is so much different than how we do it in the US. But it works :)


ok, next post is some drawings kfhkh

stevep 26th September 2016 09:15 AM

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These SketchUp drawings are super basic and just here to get an idea of the basic layout.. There will be changes,.. Like the Iso booth in the Live Room will probably be on the right side of the LR.

I know this is not perfect,. but there are things i don't have to be worried about, like isolation form the outside world, its a quiet area and no neighbors to bother. One thing i am worried about is the sound of the rain on the metal roof.

The main walls are all 4" blocks with 3/4" plaster on both sides. The wall separating the LR-CR is 4" block (LR side) and the wall separating the CR-Office is also 4" block. These walls also get 3/4"plaster on both sides.


The whole roof will also have a layer of Hardiflex Fiber Cement Board below the metal roofing with insulation below that. That should help to deaden the metal roof from the sound of the hard rain we get here. Below that is a Hardiflex drop ceiling angled 14' to 18'.
So the roof construction is... Metal Roofing - Vapor barrier insulation - Hardiflex - Fluffy Insulation - Airspace - then a Hardiflex Drop Ceiling with Fluffy insulation.


The LR and CR will have separate slabs.
The Air Space between the CR LR wall is 10" filled with fluffy insulation.
The CR-LR wall (LR side) is 4" blocks, the other (CR side) is a framed wall using Hardiflex Fiber Cement Board.

The soundproofing ceiling in the Control room will be 14ft. Below that are Bass Hangers and below the hangers a cloth ceiling.
The side and back CR walls are 4" blocks with acoustical walls built inside of that. Using Rigid fiberglass with some bass absorption. Finished with wood strips over cloth.
The CR acoustical rear wall is 2 1/2 ft deep filled with Bass Hangers.



The soundproofing ceiling in the Live Room is Hardiflex Fiber Cement Board angled from 14ft to 18ft.
I will use different acoustical treatment in the LR than seen in the drawing...
The LR acoustical walls will be Reflective and Angled. Built with Rigid fiberglass at different thicknesses and covered with wood.

PT monitor and Synths are on the Right side of the console, Outboard gear in the racks on the Left side.

I'm sure i forgot to explain some things... just ask. kfhkh



stevep 26th September 2016 09:17 AM

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Had to add the floor plan separate for some reason..

Iso booth will be in the other corner (right side) of the live room.

drBill 26th September 2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stevep (Post 12158600)
Yes drBill, we are digging all by hand hittt Actually everything is done by hand, we do have a few power tools and a cement mixer,. but those are a luxury in the Philippines. I don't think my guys have ever used a skill saw or miter/chop saw before.


I will post some SketchUp drawings to show the layout kfhkh (i can post the actual blueprint drawings -its only 5 pages- but that's kinda boring,.. just let me know if anyone wants to see that)

I did all the Planning, Drawings and Layout myself for the Blueprints and then had an architect convert them into AutoCAD for printing and do any structural stuff needed. His fee was about 100$ including the printing.

I spent almost a year figuring out how i wanted the layout and dimensions,.. i started off with a much different layout than i have now,.. it was so cool but cost way to much and way more complex to build. So i simplified it and went with close dimensions to Creation Studios, fixing some things that should make it sound better.



As for the Permits / Inspections,.. its really a joke.. :facepalm: Most people here don't even get permits... they wait till its done and if the City catches them they fill an "as built" permit.. but I wanted to do it the legal way.

The permits took under 2 months and cost me about 150$ plus about 60$ to have a guy do all the running around and standing in line for me :)

There are NO inspections during construction... :amaze: (even though I think they are supposed to)

(i think in the US every step requires a inspection.. dig the hole, get inspected, set the rebar, inspect, pour the cement, inspect,. etc...
So that is a Huge time saver and cost saver.

I think there will be a inspector come when its all done and walk through... I don't know if he looks at the plans or not. :lol:

Overall the cost of construction and labor here is much lower than the US. But some of the materials are about the same cost or more.


And some of the things we use in studio building are not available. Simple things like Drywall screws, Deck screws, Caulking, Insulation, (yea its 95*f here and they don't use insulation in their homes) Drywall is hard to find,.. but then the termites eat the paper anyway so I cant use that.
I had to search every store to find the only 4' level in the city..lol no 32oz framing hammers,. only 16oz finish hammers,. (they use that to pound the 4" nails :facepalm: ) What else,.. oh yea,. no extension cords, I had to make my own.. The wood here is cut like they used to do it in the old days... all on a home made table saw, a 2x4 is really 2"x4" and all lumber is ruff cut so you never have 2 pieces that are the same size. :lol: we do have good marine plywood,. but not much use in studio building and the termites love it. No pre-hung doors, Its hard to find 3 prong outlets.. they don't use Ground wires here,. only 2 hot wires. (of course i will use 3 prong outlets and grounds) but its not required in the permits.. lol 220 volts and no ground.. :facepalm:

I'm sure there's more,... but as you can see they way they work and build things here is so much different than how we do it in the US. But it works :)


ok, next post is some drawings kfhkh

Fascinating stuff Steve. I mean, any studio build in the US or the EU is an adventure, but I think you're on a SUPER adventure. :lol::lol: Wild stuff. At least the inspectors will be a non-issue. kfhkhkfhkh

We take so much for granted here....

drBill 26th September 2016 04:58 PM

Question - you put the iso booth/room right in front of the main window from the CRM into the live room. What was your reasoning on this. I think instinctively, I would have left that area open, and moved the iso down towards the exterior door. I'm sure you did it for a reason..... :heh:

stevep 27th September 2016 06:49 AM

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Question - you put the iso booth/room right in front of the main window from the CRM into the live room. What was your reasoning on this. I think instinctively, I would have left that area open, and moved the iso down towards the exterior door. I'm sure you did it for a reason..... :heh:

Your right kfhkh ... that Iso will not go there.. I am thinking it would be better in the other corner.
I totally agree.. I want to have that area in front of the glass open.. and even if the line of sight is not great to the booth... its ok. I can walk to the other side of the room if I need to see the person in the iso. :)



Line of sight to Iso .. That window is 7' x 3' - Laminated glass, 1/2" on the CR side 3/8" on the LR side with 10" airspace.


NeilTDeal 28th September 2016 05:51 AM

Hey Steve. What will the spaces between the columns and beams be filled with?

stevep 28th September 2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilTDeal (Post 12162420)
Hey Steve. What will the spaces between the columns and beams be filled with?

Hi Neil the Deal, Those spaces will be filled with Concrete Block. kfhkh

SoundWeavers 28th September 2016 02:29 PM

This is awesome Steve! I wish you the very best man!

A few questions (not sure if they've been answered).

1. Tin roof?
2. No soundlock from main entrance to CR & Live Room?
3. Also no lounge, kitchen, toilet? :-D

Enjoy the process!

stevep 29th September 2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundWeavers (Post 12162930)
This is awesome Steve! I wish you the very best man!

A few questions (not sure if they've been answered).

1. Tin roof?
2. No soundlock from main entrance to CR & Live Room?
3. Also no lounge, kitchen, toilet? :-D

Enjoy the process!

Hi and thanks for the questions and encouragement kfhkh

Yes it is a thick metal roof... Below the roof there is a soundproofing Drop Ceiling.

- Roof Description....

The roof will have a layer of Hardiflex Fiber Cement Board below the metal roofing with insulation below that. Below that is a Hardiflex drop ceiling angled 14' to 18'.

So the roof construction is... Metal Roofing - Vapor barrier insulation - Hardiflex - Fluffy Insulation - Airspace - then a Hardiflex Drop Ceiling with Fluffy insulation

- The Hallway is the sound lock from the LR to CR Hallway is 120cm wide and about 7m to the CR door.
- There is a bathroom/toilet in the Hallway/Office area.
- I might put a sound lock with Double Doors between CR and Office.
- The Office area will be the Lounge/Waiting area. Its about 4m x 4m
- No kitchen. But there will be a counter area for snacks, with coffee machine/or tea and fridge/microwave.

If we get bands or artists that want to come and stay at the facility there are accommodations on site that range form basic dorm type rooms to full apartment type accommodations for a very reasonable price.

Also I there is plenty of room for future expansion or additions to the studio building.


Keep the questions comments, suggestions coming kfhkh