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How many here are using Nuendo for their work DAW?
Old 22nd October 2019
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How many here are using Nuendo for their work DAW?

Just wondering how many here are now using Nuendo for their work DAW vs ProTools?
Old 22nd October 2019
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Netflix series, 8 episodes, around 10 people involved, a lot of ADRs, picture edit changes etc... everything within nuendo. Works great, almost no crash, and beside Mixing, no need for third party plugins (almost true, of course Izotope RX).
Old 22nd October 2019
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Nuendo at home, PT when I go out to studios. I've done everything from advertising to series in Nuendo at home and also use it for reviews etc when necessary. I'm currently on N8.x. Next paying gig for home I'll go to v10.

And I agree with Schmanuel that it's remarkably 'self contained' and stable. Other than RX and Phoenixverb I need nothing.
Old 22nd October 2019
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Switched from very fast dedicated tower and controller DAW (Orban) in early 2005. It was a killer for industrials and spots, and would even slave a BSP deck to audio while you were scrubbing or playing, but not big enough for feature and network shows. And they'd stopped development a few years earlier. I had good credibility with my dealer, who carried both Digi and Steiny, and asked them to set up a half-day with factory experts for each. Showed up, watched their demo, then pulled out my own material and started calling edits and other operations. Ignored the patter and made note of how many keystokes, mouse moves, and other stuff was needed. For me, dedicated keys will always be faster than finding a button on the screen.

Nuendo seemed a lot faster and could use the existing sync IO and DSP cards plugged into my Mac for Performer, but I was worried about compatibility. OMF in those days was still a thrash. So I got a small PT system as well, and converted the project to PT session when I had to go to another studio. Ran parallel for a while. Since I was writing books and a column, I could get loaners of the most recent PT while I was upgrading my own Nuendo.

Nuendo was very good about assigning keyboard shortcuts and building macros even in those early days, so I kept adapting it for my workstyle. Eventually I gave up on PT totally.

The two programs have been leapfrogging features for a long time. Something will appear in Nuendo and be missing in PT, then show up in the next PT revision. Ditto for PT features then appearing in Nuendo. So they're about equal in that regard. Nuendo seems much more focused on post while PT is also strong in the music area, but one's focus is offset by the other's market clout. So that seems a wash.

I use iZotope and Waves plugs along with N's native ones, plus a bunch of random VSTs. I've had exactly one crash or freeze in the past year, and it seems related to a brand new Audionamix plug they gave me for eval. Nuendo's automatic backups (separate from deliberate saves) saved me. My work now ranges from high-end industrials to a 2-1/2 hour theatrical I finished last night, and because I'm not in LA or NY where there are specialists for everything, I might end up doing anything from dialog edit and predub to music cutting, sfx design, and final mix.

YMMV. I'm an old man who trained on 16mm mag and 1/4", developed my own styles, and then moved to SMTPE, CMX, and 24-track with an automated board. Everybody's different...
Old 22nd October 2019
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Sound Department of Production Company
IIRC we have 12 Nuendo licenses and five PT licenses that spend their life mostly on the shelf.

We use Nuendo every day, all day, for all things audio for TV dramas and feature films.

However there is a pretty narrow Swedish post user base. It is harder to find experienced freelancers that already know Nuendo. And Nuendo isn’t compatible to protools.
Old 24th October 2019
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Audio post company with 2 facilities, and I think we're up to something like 14 Nuendo rigs.
We do all sorts of work, from small corporate video work (Studio B) up to big budget movies, from dialogue conforming to final mix (soon in Atmos too). Have been using Nuendo since 2004 IIRC, and have also always had PT for projects coming in from the outside.
Biggest hassle with Nuendo has always been finding new sound editors who are competent on it, but that is getting easier each year, as interest in the system has grown quite a bit.

Right now mixing a TV series for French network Canal+, 350 to 400 tracks, works like a charm.
Old 24th October 2019
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Biggest hassle with Nuendo has always been finding new sound editors who are competent on it...
My son used to be assistant CE at a big radio complex, with three fulltime production rooms. He'd see me flying through projects on the Orban DAW I was using at the time, seriously faster than the PT rigs they had. The Orban was incredibly easy to learn, and designed specifically for this kind of work.

He asked the VP of engineering why they weren't using it.

VP said "I can get ProTools operators right out of trade school, for minimum wage. We'll put up with longer production times and higher employee turnover because of that."
Old 24th October 2019
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i run 5 studios from small to medium/large (4 for music recording/mixing, 1 for mastering), i do location recording, broadcasting, live mixing and a bit of mastering.

kids bring in pt, logic or reaper and we got sadie, pyramix and wavelab but nuendo is the main production platform.

i'm using nuendo since version 2, still got some old versions (3 and 4) running on some laptops, no issues as long as i can remember - i do however not mix itb (anymore) but on (digital) desks! i can control 32 tracks from my desks which is nice but i hardly ever use this feature.
Old 25th October 2019
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4 rooms here, all running Nuendo.
2 rooms equipped with a large Nuage desk.
Couldn't be happier.

Fredo
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Old 26th October 2019
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I am working as a freelancer im Hamburg/Germany since 2009. Nuendo is used by many Studios around here. Maybe even more then PT. I have done audiobooks, game-localization, language-dubbing, language-voice-over, ADR, foley-mixing, sound design, mixed commercials for tv, web, theateres ... . For me Nuendo also replaces Soundminer.
Old 27th October 2019
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I would be interested to know the Nuendo user base in Europe vs USA.
Old 28th October 2019
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I would be interested to know the Nuendo user base in Europe vs USA.
Anecdotally, it seems that 80% of Nuendo users are in Europe. I mention Nuendo in New York and half the people say 'what's that?' and the other half say 'huh, cool, didn't know you could do that.'
Old 28th October 2019
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There is a very large user base in video game sound, as well as a few broadcast setups I think in France. I recall Steinberg mentioning that one video game company had 40 licenses.
Old 28th October 2019
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Anyone using it in a situation where they require you to send the "Pro Tools" session?

How is that handled?
Old 28th October 2019
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I just downloaded the demo and installed it and am trying to work my way through the tutorials on YouTube. Looks like a very good program and it has lots of depth. Anyone know of any really good tutorials??? Thanks in advance!
Old 28th October 2019
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I'm unaware of any that are 'really good'. If you stick to the official videos then just ask questions in the specific section here and on Steinberg's forum and you'll get answers for sure.

Some concepts are different (routing, buses vs groups/auxes) and some terminology is different (PT:bounce=export mixdown, PT:consolidate=N:bounce, etc) so you might bump into some things that seem odd at first glance but make sense once you learn more.
Old 28th October 2019
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Anyone using it in a situation where they require you to send the "Pro Tools" session?

How is that handled?
It's pretty straight-forward AAF export. You just need to split all tracks to mono before, since AAF export does not support multichannnel.
Clip gain, fades, pan, volume automation are preserved.
I then open the pt session and arrange the clips on the coresponding channel widths.

The reverse trip is different, Pro Tools for some ancient reason prefers to render the fades in separate files, so you need to clean-up and redo the fades.
Old 28th October 2019
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... some terminology is different (PT:bounce=export mixdown, PT:consolidate=N:bounce, etc) so you might bump into some things that seem odd at first glance but make sense once you learn more.
Mostly is historical.

Back in the dark ages, PT could only generate a full mix by bouncing in realtime. N has always had faster-than-realtime generation of a finished automated/effected mix, or a whole suite of mixes and stems. So 'bounce' wasn't the proper concept for N.

Rendering-in-place in N is actually a faster-than-realtime bounce through all the undoable effects, volume tracking*, top/tail fades, etc on a clip, giving you a new digital clip that can either be automatically substituted for the existing, or just sit in the project folder until you need it.

* - N has always let you draw a volume line on the clip itself, different from the automation curves. The volume line works on the clip -before- any inserted channel effects, so it affects processes like compression or high-boost eq differently than fader automation. Both are very useful.

Bottom line: the programs are different. The terms make sense, when you think in terms of each's signal flow.
Old 28th October 2019
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It's pretty straight-forward AAF export. You just need to split all tracks to mono before, since AAF export does not support multichannnel.
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Hm, I constantly receive AAFs from MediaComposer containing multi-channel tracks and AAX plugins in place. AAF to PT that is obviously but I guess AAF does support multi-channel tracks.
Old 28th October 2019
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Another Nuendo user here since v1. But to be honest many times I was using Cubase as it had the more modern features MONTHS ahead of Nuendo that were required or more desired for some tasks. Looking forward to Nuendo quickly getting the new Cubase 10.5 features in it.
Old 28th October 2019
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The reverse trip is different, Pro Tools for some ancient reason prefers to render the fades in separate files, so you need to clean-up and redo the fades.
Try AAtranslator, works like a charm.

https://www.aatranslator.com.au/
Old 28th October 2019
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Yes, it's not a limitation of AAF format, it's just that Nuendo does not support exporting and importing AAF with multichannel audio. All multichannel files are split upon importing the AAF and it refuses to export multichannel.
Old 29th October 2019
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Yes, it's not a limitation of AAF format, it's just that Nuendo does not support exporting and importing AAF with multichannel audio. All multichannel files are split upon importing the AAF and it refuses to export multichannel.
This is not true. Nuendo supports AAF import/export with multichannel audio. We are doing AAF with multichannel audio between Nuendo rigs daily, with Zero problems. The problem with transferring multichannel audio via AAF is on Pro Tools end, and it's been for ages.

To answer the OP - Nuendo all the way, from editorial to final mix.
Old 29th October 2019
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This is not true. Nuendo supports AAF import/export with multichannel audio. We are doing AAF with multichannel audio between Nuendo rigs daily, with Zero problems. The problem with transferring multichannel audio via AAF is on Pro Tools end, and it's been for ages.

To answer the OP - Nuendo all the way, from editorial to final mix.
Right. IIRC Pro Tools supports AAF with multichannel Tracks but coughs at referenced multichannel audio files.
Old 29th October 2019
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Well I actually got one from Resolve the other day, but not referenced to the source (consolidated audio with handles).
Worked with multichannel tracks - though 5.1 order was wrong...
Old 1st November 2019
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We have 4 Nuendo rooms with a Nuage controller in our main room. We mix TV, long form corporate, ads, compose and sound design for games. Nuendo is deep and very ergonomic in that you can set it up pretty much any way you desire. In my past I've run everything from AMS Audiofile to Protools; switched to Nuendo in 2005 and never looked back.
Old 1st November 2019
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I moved from Nuendo to PTU after a decade with Nuendo (and some years with Fairlight mfx/Amek before)
The amount of annoying bugs and poorly designed features became unbearable for me. (version 8)
Old 4 weeks ago
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Anyone who's using some platform other than PT...

[This is copied from a discussion about iZotope's new Dialog Match, which is an incredibly cool concept...
And one I can't try, since it's available only for ProTools offline use.
I asked iZotope about something more universal, like they do for Rx7 Advanced...]
I just heard back from iZotope about making a standard VST or desktop version for platforms other than PT.

They can't publicly commit to a schedule for a more universal version. But they are sponsoring a survey, asking what platform you'd want to use DM on. I should think this would be helpful not only for us Nuendo folks, but also those who are using other DAWs... or even use PT, but want to share the tool with other platforms they already have.

The survey appears to be by invitation. Send a note to their website that you're interested in other platforms. It'll help all of us.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Wait ... a "secret" survey on invitation only?????
I am really becoming an old fart ...

Fredo
Old 4 weeks ago
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Fredo, there appears to be a registration number along with the link iZo send me. Apparently they want to qualify respondents, so nobody skews the poll by voting twice (or a dozen times).

It's not a secret, however. As soon as I queried them about a VST or desktop port, they sent me the link.
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