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Old 3 weeks ago
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Camera feed from voice booth

We do a lot of remote recording sessions where the client connects via Skype video conference. I've been using an old security camera that has composite output to feed a firewire DV box to feed Skype. It works but looks pretty crap.
What is everyone using for this?

Am I going to need a USB extender (to work on coax cables) and a webcam?
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We do a lot of remote recording sessions where the client connects via Skype video conference. I've been using an old security camera that has composite output to feed a firewire DV box to feed Skype. It works but looks pretty crap.
What is everyone using for this?

Am I going to need a USB extender (to work on coax cables) and a webcam?
I’ve done it a few ways but if the client is amenable I prefer (gasp) FaceTime or Skype with an old iPhone... small and easy to move around... it’s particularly helpful if I’m bouncing between being vocal talent and helping them flesh out the composition.. I can easily grab the iPhone from my vox tracking space and walk over to the piano corner or guitar corner or my daw whilst video sexting with the client lol

I’ll add that I’m the session talent in this transaction and I’m tracking on my gear locally not on a fancy remote deal into their local protools session
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We have to be able to connect talent and talkback feed separately though.
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A USB color webcam costs $10. It won't be auto focus, but if you mount it (gaff tape or stiff wire), it'll be easy to frame and focus the shot on your talent.
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A USB color webcam costs $10. It won't be auto focus, but if you mount it (gaff tape or stiff wire), it'll be easy to frame and focus the shot on your talent.
I actually do have a very good Logitech webcam (cheap ones don't work well on mac). However I would need to get the USB into the booth somehow, via coax or Cat5. Any suggestions?
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I actually do have a very good Logitech webcam (cheap ones don't work well on mac). However I would need to get the USB into the booth somehow, via coax or Cat5. Any suggestions?
Yea, USB-->CAT5 (or better)-->USB extender.

I'd link you to some options, but being in 'Merikka won't help you find a NZ option. I am sure there are plenty there.
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I'd link you to some options, but being in 'Merikka won't help you find a NZ option. I am sure there are plenty there.
It's cheaper to buy from US and get it shipped tbh.
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It's cheaper to buy from US and get it shipped tbh.
ok.
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Ext.../dp/B003L14ZTC

https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Ex.../dp/B003WO40V6
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Thanks!
So have you used these (or similar) with a webcam?
Old 1 week ago
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I bought one that is similar to these but it doesn't work with the cam even with a short Cat5.
They only support USB1, maybe that's the issue?
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They only support USB1, maybe that's the issue?
I suspect so. Most newer camera are 2.0 or 3.0. Look for a USB 3.0 extender package.
Old 1 week ago
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I discourage it on Skype sessions. In my experience it makes the likelihood of a packet error much greater, and Skype's "crap-sensor" only tolerates a very few of those before it kicks your call over to their "bad" codec, which is very, very bad. Then you have to hang up and redial. Besides, it's an audio session -- we can do our jobs just fine without getting looked at.
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we can do our jobs just fine without getting looked at.
It's not my job that is the concern here, it's the director's job.
And they think they can't do their job without looking at their actor.

So, I would have a Skype connection for video feed, as well as Source Connect or ISDN for audio and LTC.
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It's not my job that is the concern here, it's the director's job.
And they think they can't do their job without looking at their actor.
As a fairly seasoned VO director, I do my job based on the noises they expel. In fact I generally don't look at 'em even when they're right across the glass from me, as their facial expressions and hand gesticulations are unwelcome distractions. But... different strokes. Hope they're paying extra.
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If I know the actor (or trust them), I can direct just by voice. I've done plenty of national ISDN sessions that way, and POTS-with-local-record before that.

But if I don't know the actor, or they're not really an actor, it helps to be able to see their faces and upper bodies when you don't get the sound you need based on your directions. Then you can make suggestions, everything from 'gesture when you get to this line', to 'please pull your head back a little on this syllable'.

(If it's an announcer rather than an actor, pix isn't that helpful. They have their style, and know how to use the mic for it. But actors are trained to use their whole bodies, and how they do makes a difference even on v/o.)
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But if I don't know the actor, or they're not really an actor, it helps to be able to see their faces and upper bodies when you don't get the sound you need based on your directions. Then you can make suggestions, everything from 'gesture when you get to this line', to 'please pull your head back a little on this syllable'.
Good points.

Don't know what POTS is, other than it came before ISDN. Guessing either the P stands for Phone or the T stands for Telephone, but probably not both.
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A USB color webcam costs $10. It won't be auto focus, but if you mount it (gaff tape or stiff wire), it'll be easy to frame and focus the shot on your talent.
My control room (my garage) is 30 feet from my studio (my house) connected with underground conduit and I want to set up a 2 way system. 10 feet either end, that's 50 feet apart. Using my Mac 12 core in the control room and an old MacBook Pro in the studio. Hoping to use my big 4K TV in the studio as one of the screens. USB, HDMI or Ethernet? Planning on running all 3 but would I need 2 lines of USB or can I pull this off with one cable?
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Good points.

Don't know what POTS is, other than it came before ISDN. Guessing either the P stands for Phone or the T stands for Telephone, but probably not both.
POTS = Plain Old Telephone Service
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I wouldn't use it for VO but I've had requests to do this for ADR. I personally don't care about seeing the actor but some directors like "face to face" even if it's virtual. I run a Webcam going into a laptop that also has an Aja or Blackmagic capture device so we can send talent, picture, or both.
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As a fairly seasoned VO director....
We're requested to do this for ADR sessions, especially for animation.
VO not so much.
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We're requested to do this for ADR sessions, especially for animation.
VO not so much.
Actors dubbing their own on-camera selves? Or language replacement?
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Not overdub, just plain old ADR and original dialog.
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Not overdub, just plain old ADR and original dialog.
Not sure what you're saying exactly. But ADR, around here anyway, means replacing the production-sound version of your own voice. So it's an overdub of a sort.

Or at least it used to mean that. Now, with some people, it can mean anything that you cue with 3 beeps.
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Not sure what you're saying exactly. But ADR, around here anyway, means replacing the production-sound version of your own voice.
That's exactly what I mean by ADR.

So I am not sure why you asked what it was I was referring to?

I would say overdub or dubbing when it is language replacement.
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Don't know why they call it automated dialogue replacement. Nothing automated about it.
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Don't know why they call it automated dialogue replacement. Nothing automated about it.
I think it was originally automatic. It's not that, either, for a lot of people.
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I think the word automatic refers to the Greek meaning of "acting of itself".
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