My 2º basement/garage Home Studio
Old 15th September 2013
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My 2º basement/garage Home Studio

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I have started to have an idea of building my rehearsal/studio room in December last year because my band subtly have no space for rehearsals. I have this picture in my mind for a lot of years but never come true because I have all ways place for rehearsal.

I did not want a professional room because I don't either have the money or the space to do one but I want to make a project studio capable of rehearsals with a five piece band without disturbing anyone.

My live room have 2,30 m height, 6 m length and 2, 50 Width. My bathroom/Mastering room have 2m by 2,50m. Perfect !!!

So what to expect?? Nothing great but a place that me and my friends can enjoy great evenings playing.

So far so good, but with the rush for a place for rehearsal and some ingenuity I have done too many mistakes. One of those was not to study, discuss and read this forums. So when I played my first low end in the bass guitar all my studio resonates like crazy.

I posted here the thread "Have to demolish my studio" in the day that I "bulldoze" my studio.

... Yes this type of errors pay hard... Many tears...
I told you so... You look like shit...

So here I am building again...

This time I have been reading books, pay attention to forums etc.

This rehearsal room is located in a semi basement. Meaning that no one lives down, and no one lives at the same level of the room. My neighbors all live 3 floors above, because this house is in a hill side. At the same level they have their garages and one level above all of us have a spare room for parties, barbecues and other kind of stuff.
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Old 15th September 2013
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One of the errors was building a double wall in bricks whithout decouple from the ceiling and floor by a resilient material. That part I can not touch.

Here some pictures of the construction of the wall that is parallel to the garage wall.









Old 15th September 2013
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My tiny litle wc.







Image of the double doors of the live room and in front the wc.



I think my friends can manage





Old 15th September 2013
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Double doors

Look at the floor. Touching each other. F+ck





Old 15th September 2013
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Window from the live room



Old 15th September 2013
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More errors.

In the ceiling I didn t Antivibration hangers



In the wall ceiling cross I put some "L steel stud". My god what a mess!!!



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In the control room no resilient, nothing...

Old 15th September 2013
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But it was looking nice...

My control room





My live room









Old 15th September 2013
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That was the last photo. The day after there was a Tsunami of Low End and my studio blow way.

From now on all the photos are from the rebuilding.

My second attempt to do a wall. Lets see if it will work...

One of the walls is in front of the entrance door to my house and stairs and the other one is in front of my neighbor garage.

This rubber foots are decoupling my wall from the floor and ceiling.





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Here you can see M.A.D. 4 from DANOSA in the right wall that will be sandwiched by 2 sheets of gypsum board of 13 mm and 15mm.



In this photo you can see that I put some acoustic tape of 4mm, resilient (I don´t know the name in English) on all stell that will be in touch whith the gypsum.

Old 15th September 2013
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Ok in the process I made another mistake...

Here You can see that the ceiling will have the "up and down" shape. It reveals very difficult to put the gypsum boards and guarantee isolation.



Old 15th September 2013
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So I made some adjustments and the ceiling will be flat. I will Put rockwool and fabric in the ceiling.







Some details trying to do it right...



In this edge, where the ceiling meets the wall that is in front of the soil "no neighbor" I place a very hard rubber to make the resilient connection between those the brick wall and the ceiling stud.



In all my studs I did put some "acoustic tape" to prevent high resonance frequencies of the metal.



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First of all protection. lol

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Old 15th September 2013
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Putting some drywall whith liquid nails to prevent resonance of the gypsum boards...







Caulking and putting some Backer rod in the wall ceiling junction.





Old 15th September 2013
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These are very small spaces to expect any kind of "professional" results, particularly the control room.. this does not mean you can record and create good music, the tracking is not that bad...
Old 15th September 2013
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Thanks for the support. I do Know that will be very difficult to make some recording in here. I will have to make many adjustments to the treatment of the room. I do not expect professional results but some kind of a "playground" to a declined musician.lol
Old 15th September 2013
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Just place some bass traps to control LF and mix at lower volumes
Old 15th September 2013
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What kind of bass traps do you recommend to a control room so tiny like this?

I think my only escape is to put some broadband absorvers in the wall and ceiling. No space for corner bass traps...
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Old 15th September 2013
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Some pictures of the outside wall that separates the studio wall from the garage and give some more isolation from the street.
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Old 15th September 2013
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In this photos you can see how I run the cables from the control room to the live room. A friend gave some help in the connections and another built the box from scratch.
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Old 15th September 2013
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In the outside door of the control room I Have made some DYi door. No money for anything else. Good results whatsoever.
It is a metal door with polyurethane inside. I have made a structure whit steel and screw that structure to the door and put High density foam inside. It is not perfect but works at High and middle frequencies. I am considering put another layer or two of mass loaded vinyl for some attenuation in the LF.
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Old 15th September 2013
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I the previous construction I went up with a ventilation design that was not enough.
In this photos you can see the natural inflation duct 100 mm running from the garage passing trough the control room and ending at the live room. This kind of duct it's not the adequate and will be replaced by three Isolated Ribbed Air Ducts. Two from the outside to the live room and another from outside to the control room.
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Old 15th September 2013
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In the floor above I have made a hole to the air duct passes from this floor to the studio. This will be replaced by a bigger and silence vent and will be placed away from this box, right next to the street.
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Old 15th September 2013
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membrane bass traps
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I think DYI one of those can be something complicated. What type of membrane bass trap do you recommend me, knowing that my room problems are higher in between 80 and 150?
Old 29th September 2013
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Some new pics from the vent system.

Ductwork 150 mm in construction. This is the room that I have above the studio. I did apply a silencer in the transition between the ceiling of the studio and the floor of this room. It´s not finished but have done some progresses.
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Old 18th October 2013
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Some little work. 15 mm plasterboard over vinyl.
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Old 18th October 2013
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This is the place where I will put this silencer. Right above the door between the live and control room.
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Old 18th October 2013
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Spend all the weekend working and made few improvements.
Started the boxes that will cover the duct work and where the grilles will fix.
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Old 20th October 2013
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Can you comment on my vent system?
I don´t want to spend a lot of euros buying a wall ac unit whit installation. Do you think that with an exchange room with a portable AC unit and a vent in the opposite part of the studio I will keep the temperature down with no problems about noise. I saw it in the "Home Recording Studio Build It Like the Pros".
Between the live and control room there is a silencer.

Thank you.
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Old 22nd October 2013
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Some little progress in the the duct work and with the second layer of gypsum in the walls.
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Old 28th October 2013
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Another day in the studio...
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Old 28th October 2013
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Can you comment on my vent system?
I don´t want to spend a lot of euros buying a wall ac unit whit installation. Do you think that with an exchange room with a portable AC unit and a vent in the opposite part of the studio I will keep the temperature down with no problems about noise. I saw it in the "Home Recording Studio Build It Like the Pros".
Between the live and control room there is a silencer.

Thank you.
I wouldn't do it that way, but it might work IF the system isn't passive (there are fans to move the air around).

To make a system like this work well you would need an AC unit rated to cool a space larger than the entire space of the studio and fans to move the air around the space and out the exhaust.

I would suggest researching recording booth ventilation online. and applying that technique to both your live and recording room.
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