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Old 27th December 2002
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Here she is in all her glory....new studio, ain't she purty?

Here's the outside of our new baby. DIY Construction has been going for a week now . It's 1800 sq ft with about 650 up top ( apt for studio mgr) was originaly an "ocean Pacific" clothing factory in the 60's, more recently an upholstery shop...(gonna have our Omnirax desk tuck n rolled with some groovy red naugahyde and brass revets!)

Love to get any construction tips, caveats, and moral support from you guys and gals ....

No need to point out the sheer insanity of building a studio in the already flooded So Ca market. We're blissfully in denial and need help staying that way!
Here's a shot from the new Digi camera that santa brought:
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Old 27th December 2002
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And a view of the large iso (12 x 13 with some funky angles, ceiling 16 ft-9ft)

We decided to put double doors on to accomodate the C7 grand. A small (7x8) iso shares a common wall to the right with a double sliding glass door passing through to the CR.

Is it ok to post these here Jules or should I set up a link?
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Old 27th December 2002
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Good luck in your new place! What's it look like inside?

Unfinished is fine. Then we get the before/after effect.

Ah - you were posting the above as I typed.
Old 27th December 2002
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Good luck in your new place! What's it look like inside?

Unfinished is fine. Then we get the before/after effect.

Ah - you were posting the above as I typed.
What's it like? It's a freakin MESS!! Actually 'cause of all of the construction materials it's pretty tight in there.
This is my first time really doing the nailing and all, I'm having a BLAST!
Probably won't record a damn thing till February...We have a little pool going as to when we'll actually be up and running....
The front wall of the CR went up today but I didn't get a pic the CR dimensions are approx 21x 20 (with a cool little step-down -to room that comes off the back of the CR....I call it "the dungeon")
there will be a second CR/ edit/writing room as well....12x13 with tie lines in every room. here's a shot out of the Iso into the live room (live room approx 675 sq feet ) 16 ft ceilings
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Old 27th December 2002
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view from big iso ,through small iso , to CR
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Old 27th December 2002
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Good luck with it, it looks funky and cool. . . .
I know you know this . . . . but, get a MAJOR security system!
I have a friend that has an old building like that and some scumbags cut through the roof and dropped down into the place one night.
Old 27th December 2002
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I know you know this . . . . but, get a MAJOR security system!
I have a friend that has an old building like that and some scumbags cut through the roof and dropped down into the place one night.
Yep, the security is being handled by a good friend that did the previous place.....that and the moving/installing of the HVAC was the moxt $$$ so far.

Knox, your place looks really vibey.... what are the dimesions of your Control Room?
Old 27th December 2002
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I'm glad to see you are documenting the whole process! When is your E.T.A. on the studio?
Old 27th December 2002
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Yep, the security is being handled by a good friend that did the previous place.....that and the moving/installing of the HVAC was the moxt $$$ so far.

Knox, your place looks really vibey.... what are the dimesions of your Control Room?
It's roughly 16 x 20 . . . 2 degrees off square, with bass traps in back and front corners. It sounds great. The math was done properly. I wish it were just a tad bigger at times. Though . . . . I'm VERY happy with it.

One thing . . . you will really enjoy working in your place when it's finished. There will be part of your heart and soul in it. Even though I had a guy build mine that builds recording studios . . . I was here working with him damn near every minute and I "FEEL" every piece of glue, sheet rock screw and wire in the place. You will too!

As far as security . . . go overboard. I have things in here (security wise) that only I know about.

Good Luck . . . . I'm sure you are looking forward to getting it up and running. It looks cool.

I can tell you one thing . . . . before it's all over, you will feel like killing any and every construction looking / type person that you see in your place . . . . if they don't get the hell out of there and let you get to work. *smile*
Old 27th December 2002
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It's awesome! So many possibilities! Granted it's probably more than a little overwhelming at this stage, but also such a blank slate.

I'm jealous.heh
Old 27th December 2002
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As far as security . . . go overboard. I have things in here (security wise) that only I know about.
THere was a most interesting (if mostly theoretical) discussion of 'active' versus 'passive' security systems in Robert Heinlein's book "Friday". The general idea is that the passive systems will try to keep you from getting in in the first place, and the active systems make sure that if you do get past the passive system, you don't get out again...

Actually, active security isn't new - my grandfather talked about wiring 220 volts to the padlock of the tool shed on a construction site he worked on in the depression years. Burned a few folks, but the tools stayed safe...
Old 27th December 2002
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THere was a most interesting (if mostly theoretical) discussion of 'active' versus 'passive' security systems in Robert Heinlein's book "Friday". The general idea is that the passive systems will try to keep you from getting in in the first place, and the active systems make sure that if you do get past the passive system, you don't get out again...

Actually, active security isn't new - my grandfather talked about wiring 220 volts to the padlock of the tool shed on a construction site he worked on in the depression years. Burned a few folks, but the tools stayed safe...
Below . . . see "part" of the ACTIVE security system.
Yes that is a full size car in background . . .not a Tonka.
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Old 27th December 2002
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Is that a dog or a Wookie? heh
Old 27th December 2002
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Is that a dog or a Wookie? heh
LOLOLOLOL!
Pretty good . . . .
I'm not sure (he needs a hair cut in that picture)!

There are bones scattered about the studio yard, like the scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail with the "little bunny rabbit" . . . mostly drummers with bad timing and those that request "autotune".
Old 27th December 2002
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The general idea is that the passive systems will try to keep you from getting in in the first place, and the active systems make sure that if you do get past the passive system, you don't get out again...
"The molten lava drops here, and the swinging blade drops here, leaving the corspe here...... here........ and over here......"
Old 27th December 2002
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The place is dripping with potential. A clean slate.

Enjoy.

Got a name for it yet?
Old 27th December 2002
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I'm glad to see you are documenting the whole process! When is your E.T.A. on the studio?
I'm starting a little pool among the guys.....my bet is mid Feb. That's just to be up and running ala Dave Martin "working in a construction zone" The finish work and "vibe stuff" will be an on going process

We could REALLY use some advice/creative ideas on how to handle the ceiling in the different rooms. I'll try and post a pic tonite.

We're trying as much as possible to follow some tried n true construction ideas that we've picked up on the web, in books, and through others that have done this (this is our 4th DIY collectively, first REALLY getting my hands dirty) and I really would have wanted some design input from a real studio design team. (you gearslutz were helpful in turning us on to some #'s ) but the $$$ just couldn't pencil out along with the moving costs and materials. So the idea is to get "the big room" and the iso's built, HVACand alarm installed
and hopefully bring in a consultant on the control room. i've been looking at these guys for a possible consult.


soundcontrolroom.com/
We will already have the "shell "built and floor floated but will hopefully utilize a professional in the tuning of the room.

Any gear slutz in the SO.CA area that would like to come by and kibbitz or swing a hammer..... we're trading time for labor!

oh yeah...here's a side view of the place and the upstairs apt.if biz takes off this will be "artist lodging" in the future.for now the studio mgr will occupy.
we're 2 blocks from the PCH and 3 from some great beachs, KILLER surf.

thanks for the support!
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Old 27th December 2002
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Originally posted by David R.
The place is dripping with potential. A clean slate.

Enjoy.

Got a name for it yet?
We're gonna stay Proxy Music....on paper. But the GARCIAS sign may stay.
That way if the studio tanks, we can alway's open the big taco stand/surf shop that we have alway's dreamed about (definately a better biz move!)
Old 27th December 2002
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Nice looks cool..

Jules
Old 28th December 2002
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the CR/ live room wall went up today!

Here's a shot from the engineers vantage point, thru the small iso to the
large iso. That's the CR window on the left.
We aslo decided on a flush mounted double wide rack rail builtinto the wall with glass doors (think Isoraxx) for the drives and very noisy computers. I'tll be a kinda "machine closet that will vent out into the hallway. This should leave TONS of room for that 2 inch we're eye ballin. (i wish)

we were hoping to keep as much of the wood ceiling as possible, but the neiborhood (noise- in)and heat/air issues may force us to treat it and lose the barn look. We're still kickin that one around.
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Old 31st December 2002
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whilst searching for info on hardware to build mic panels forthe new room I stumbled on another cool site. http://homerecording.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?forumid=20

Some great info on DIY building techniques....and nice folks, if anyone else is taking on a new build out I'd highly recomend a look see.

Today the walls go up in the "b" room (its a 12x13 pre pro/edit/iso) We'll treat its construction as another iso with sight lines through the rest of the studio.

this is gettin fun...can't wait to move in.....

anyone else care to chime in on building a mic panel for the live and iso rooms? Pics and or links to suppliers of bulk connectors,cabeling etc. (out of California) would be really helpful....
new pics to follow tonite.

Happy New Year!
Old 1st January 2003
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here's the view from the rear of the CR, the hole that looks like a door to the left of the CR glass is actually the "machine closet" this will be a glass doored iso lock for comp and drives.....
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Old 2nd January 2003
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Congratulations and Good Luck! It looks good so far. My room just opened in September. The construction was already done. I'm hoping in a few years to buy a building like that one and"do it up right." Enjoy!
Old 2nd January 2003
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Good Luck with the new premises ... it should be sensational.

Is it in a residential or semi commercial area? ... just wondering about noise issues, carpark space & loading etc.


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Old 2nd January 2003
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Good Luck with the new premises ... it should be sensational.

Is it in a residential or semi commercial area? ... just wondering about noise issues, carpark space & loading etc.

I'ts zoned as both actually...the landlord owns the buildings on either side and there is substatial street parking. the only problem may be in the summer months when the nearby beaches get busy, the parking may tighten up a bit.

I see your in Sydney. Were you born and raised there? Beautiful harbor....knda reminded me of san diego, where I grew up.
(btw, do you ever work with a drummer by the name of gordon rikmeister(sp)? I met him there years ago and lost hiscontact info)
Old 2nd January 2003
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Not a problem ... just stay in the good books with the landlord ... particulaly if he owns the block!

Yeh, grew up in the Sydney area and is a great place to live.
I don't know gordon rikmeister(sp) but I could possibly track him down. I'l let you know if I do.

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Old 4th January 2003
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Don't wanna see that thread sink
Keep us posted.
Old 4th January 2003
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Don't wanna see that thread sink
Keep us posted.
I'll be posting more pics next week, maybe at another URL.
the building is tented for termites till sunday so I've got a couple days off!
Old 24th January 2003
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gentle bump ... how are things going cajonezzz?
Old 24th January 2003
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gentle bump ... how are things going cajonezzz?
busy....
cool thing is that we're actually on budget however I think a late Feb opening is pressing it. I think the finish work will be a work in progress. No one has really made a call as to general wall treatment [fabric, paint etc]
The cable order is a bitch 'cause we've yet to settle on satellite outboard racks or what....We're also going to run cable for future surround [ Michael Wagener has been REALLY helpful with info. He sent me his home vid of his studio construction, fun to see it come together time lapse as well as dimmensions that were going to start our surround set up on, Thanks Michael]
Here are a couple shots, excuse the crap all over, it's been a bitch to build as we've had to have all the materials inside the room with us. Very frustrating trying to climb up and over stacks of material. Leaving anything outside is out of the question, as it would either get ripped or bring the Socialist State of Kalifornia zoning dickheads sniffing around. [ Let's just say that if Teddy Pendergrass ever calls we'll have to refer him to another studio, No offense Teddy...]
First shot is the live room....the colum will go away. The "drum room" is to the left ....12x13ish ft (the yamaha c7 is in there under blankets) The voc booth to the right then the main CR. all the HVAC is routed....now how to hide it or dress it up. ceilings next week.....
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