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connect outboard gear via mixer to computer
Old 27th February 2014
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Hi Gearslutz

Im looking for a bit of advice of hooking up gear to recording

at my disposal:

Theres a bounch of hardware mono synths

a couple of hardware-drummachines with individual instrument trigger outs

i would like to:

connect every synth to their own channel/line on a mixer

connect the individual instrument trigger outs on the drum-machines to their own channels/lines on that mixer.

from here i wish to send all those individual channels/lines on the mixer to a software like ableton or similar Cubase but i still want all lines individualy present in the software.

another concern:

i wish to recieve/send midi-clock/tempo from/to software and send midi-keys/triggers from/to various midi-cable connected Synths and drum machines.

what can i do ,
anyone got some sugestions on what to use or what could be done here?

Thank you


Old 27th February 2014
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Here is my setup.
Hardware synths/drum machines into a mixer
The mixer I use is FireWire giving me the option to run that audio into my Pc/daw (both master and specific channels). Otherwise I would need an audio interface (with multiple ins for what it sounds like you want to do).
For midi I use multiple m-audio keyboards (USB interface and keyboard controller in one). If you have a bunch of monosynths, provided they have a midi thru, you can probably get away with just 1 interface (16 midi channels).

Hope this helps, I'm on my tablet and typing takes forever.... Lost my train of thought
Old 27th February 2014
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Basically if you want everything on their individual channels into the DAW, playing at the same time, you're going to need an interface solution that provides as many inputs - no way around that. Of course, if you're willing to record them one (or how many inputs on the interface allows for) at a time, you can go the mixer route...but I personally find it a bit too much of a hassle (and I can't really afford a mixer that great that'd justify said hassle). I've ended up with a Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 + Behringer ADA8000, which gives me 16 analog ins and outs. Plenty for a modest synth lineup (especially if they're monos), not so much when you throw an eight-outs-drum machine and some outboard processors/fx into the equation.
Old 27th February 2014
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Thanks guys , great replys. my great thanks!
ive looked a bit deeper in those sugestions

could an mackie 3204VLZ4 mixer with USB serve these purposes
like your firewire mixer (hgigh) ?

can a motu midi express 128 take care of the midi works


any other mixer or interface sugestions are most welcome
Old 27th February 2014
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Originally Posted by Fullkorn View Post
Thanks guys , great replys. my great thanks!
ive looked a bit deeper in those sugestions

could an mackie 3204VLZ4 mixer with USB serve these purposes
like your firewire mixer (hgigh) ?

can a motu midi express 128 take care of the midi works


any other mixer or interface sugestions are most welcome
The Mackie 3204VLZ looks really nice (I could use 4 busses for sure) but regarding recording everything:

The VLZ4 4•Bus Series Mixers also feature a 4x2 USB
recording and playback function. This means that up to
four signals may be recorded simultaneously and a stereo
mix returned to the mixer for playback.

I pulled that from a PDF:
http://www.mackie.com/downloads/VLZ4...204VLZ4_SS.pdf

It appears that you can record only 4 channels at a time via USB.

The MOTU is really nice and should cover all of your needs (It would cover mine and leave some free channels too). I would like something like this so that I can have midi in and out connected to more synths (I use the THRU port to minimize the 16 channel interfaces on my pc).

If you can afford to get this stuff it may be worthwhile. You may want to see if anyone else has any suggestions other than the Mackie or MOTU as well.
Old 27th February 2014
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i am currently using a mackie 1642 with ableton. i have direct outs the first 8 channels going into my recording interface, allowing me to hook up 8 instruments to any software and i have the 4 stereo inputs getting audio from my software. i can send each of the first 8 seperatly into my computer, or send everything from my computer to the mixer and back to my computer, using abletons "external effect" plugin.

so basically...


HARDWARE -> MIXER -> DIRECT OUTS -> INTERFACE IN -> SOFTWARE

SOFTWARE -> INTERFACE OUTS -> MIXER IN -> MIXER OUT -> INTERFACE IN -> SOFTWARE
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