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Old 14th September 2011
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Loud master secrets? Need help!

Hey slutz,

I'm trying to get my mixes to be around -9 (RMS). Right now I'm hitting around -15 rms. How can I make my mix louder without changing any sound quality? Like I know limiters can easily do the trick, but what exactly on the limiter do you do? Thanks
Old 15th September 2011
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Which limiters do you own ? a good sounding 9db RMS isn´t much of a problem if you have a decent mixdown.
Old 15th September 2011
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You can take a good mix to stupid levels just by clipping the master fader in Reaper if you want to, providing the mix isn't laced with nasty distortion. A crappy mix will fall to pieces and distort like crazy pretty much from the get-go. Getting the tonal and instrument balance sorted is the first step, but if there's too much distortion in the tracks (ie, you mixed too hot into a tape plugin), it will become uber-obvious when you smash it to pieces, and the RMS will just reach a plateau. Get a good mix, and you can just clip it to commercial levels with no problem (normally). If you can't get it past -8 easily with a modern mix, it probably isn't a good enough mix.
Old 15th September 2011
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I would suggest you might like to spend a bit more time with automation & compression. The top mix engineers work hard so individual elements of a mix are under control thus avoiding massive spikes of energy resulting in the need to have the mix softer overall. Search out massive peaks (particularly in vocals, drums etc) and just trim them a bit whilst ensuring you keep the dynamic content and charm. Use compression the same way and you'll be surprised how much hotter your overall mix will be.
Old 15th September 2011
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I'm trying to get my mixes to be around -9 (RMS). Right now I'm hitting around -15 rms. How can I make my mix louder without changing any sound quality?
You can't. Nobody can. You can only hope to not damage it too badly.
Old 16th September 2011
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-9 is fairly loud actually...but if you want it...just slap a couple of mastering plugs on your mix bus...tweak for a second and voila -9...
Old 17th September 2011
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There are tons of threads about this in the mastering section. Use the search function.
Old 20th September 2011
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There are tons of threads about this in the mastering section. Use the search function.

Tons of people say what you just did. Use the search function.
Old 20th September 2011
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If you haven't already heard of it, there's a pretty amazing piece of software from Slate Digital called FG-X. This will do exactly what you're looking for, and the difference between using it vs. a Limiter is pretty staggering.

Here's a link:
Slate Digital FG-X | AudioLot.com 888.224.3343
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