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Old 20th September 2019
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Depth in your mix

Hi dear gearslutz,

there is many advice over the internet about frequencies, loudness, delay etc. for getting depth in the mix.
But, can room treatment improve the listening?
Old 20th September 2019
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Hi dear gearslutz,

there is many advice over the internet about frequencies, loudness, delay etc. for getting depth in the mix.
But, can room treatment improve the listening?
In music production, there are a million ways to achieve the same things as achieving depth for your mix depends on:
1.) The source tracks (original sounds)
2.) Your personnel preferences
3.) The sound you want for the overall mix
4.) The arrangement of the song
5.) All the instruments in the mix
6.) How you want it to sound and be portrayed(Vibe, Feeling, Mood.

A mix with depth should sound like its in 3D, not just left right and center. Just like a painting, an artist doesn't (in most cases) want a 2D painting, he wants to paint his picture in 3D with depth.

To achieve a mix with depth, you need to place instruments not only left , right and center, but you need to place them, Back left, back right, front center, mid center, back center, back right, front right, 60% right middle, 60% left middle and any other space/position you feel the instruments need to be perceived in.

You can achieve this with a series of short delays (reverbs, delays, Mid and Side EQ edits, Panning techniques and stereo imaging techniques. with this, you can place each instrument in its own space.
Old 20th September 2019
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Thanx for the reply.

What would you recomend to people, who have not studied acoustics and are not mixing engeneers:
- is it a matter of ear training or
- may it depend on the acoustics af the room?

Thank you
Paul
Old 20th September 2019
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What would you recomend to people, who have not studied acoustics and are not mixing engeneers:
If you are not any of those, then you need to Studio audio engineering for at least few years to a few hundred years. Been doing it for over 30 years and im still learning things. Its something that will take a long time and you need to spend hours daily on it, if you want to learn.

These things are something you cannot just read a book and then know what to do. as
Every mix needs different things done to it. So you need to know your tools inside and out. You also need a good trained ear in a tuned environment, so you cna hear the true sounds and not exaggerated sounds.

Studio Acoustics is another field that can take years to understand and hone. so start with audio engineering and then into mixing.
Old 20th September 2019
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Thank you CJ,

agree with you, training your ears is a long term process. I work in my profession for 20 years and I love it.
So as this forum provides some knowledge for home recording too, I try to understand and to learn how to get depth in the mix.
If the room acoustics in a room with no big problems such as deep depths in the FR or ringing have lower priority, I will continue ear training and get more mixing experience.

thx
Old 20th September 2019
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bright and dull can set a forward and back space esp when room and reverb are increased as you take off top and "move" back!
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