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Difference between in ear and around ear reference headphones?
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Difference between in ear and around ear reference headphones?

Hello! Which headphones gives the most accurate sound for mixing and mastering? And what is the difference between in ear and around ear reference headphones?

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If itt's in ear,, then it's not really headphones. I'd be surprised iif any ear buds were appropriate for mixing.
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The accuracy of headphones is a subject that has been argued endlessly on Gearslutz. There isn’t one answer to your question as to which headphone is the most accurate. There are a number of extremely expensive headphones making claims to accuracy, but they vary in design, sound, and fit. There are also a number of not so expensive headphones that get mentioned as being useful in getting translatable mixes.
So... how much do you want to spend, what kind(s) of music are you mixing, and do you have other references(monitors, earbuds, whatever)?

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The accuracy of headphones is a subject that has been argued endlessly on Gearslutz. There isn’t one answer to your question as to which headphone is the most accurate. There are a number of extremely expensive headphones making claims to accuracy, but they vary in design, sound, and fit. There are also a number of not so expensive headphones that get mentioned as being useful in getting translatable mixes.
So... how much do you want to spend, what kind(s) of music are you mixing, and do you have other references(monitors, earbuds, whatever)?
Hello Bushman, yeah I will be using monitors on the daytime and headphones mostly in the nighttime.

Price does not really matter, I want the best. Im making and mixing trap/rnb/hiphop/pop music so low end accuracy is important for me.

Regards Michael
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Price does not really matter,...
Well, you could try the Sennheiser Orpheus/HE 1, seem to be okay.
Or if you prever in ear the oBravo EAMT-1s.
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Price does not really matter, I want the best.
If price does not matter, Focal Stellia. I can’t afford them, but maybe you can.
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If price does not matter, Focal Stellia. I can’t afford them, but maybe you can.
Definitely checking them out, thanks!
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Definitely checking them out, thanks!
The Sennheiser Orpheus system costs $50,000, but the few who have heard it seem to think it is the best.
It includes a tube amp embedded in a marble block (not kidding) and takes about 30 minutes to fully warm the tubes.
Do you still not care what it costs? I mastered an album for a Kuwaiti crown prince who had that exact same attitude. He drove a different exotic sports car to the studio every day for the five days he came in.
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The Sennheiser Orpheus system costs $50,000, but the few who have heard it seem to think it is the best.
It includes a tube amp embedded in a marble block (not kidding) and takes about 30 minutes to fully warm the tubes.
Do you still not care what it costs? I mastered an album for a Kuwaiti crown prince who had that exact same attitude. He drove a different exotic sports car to the studio every day for the five days he came in.
Thanks Im gonna check it out!
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Thanks Im gonna check it out!
Sure you will! I’m going to check out commuting in a Lamborghini. Let’s get back in touch when we’ve done those things.
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I have been lucky enough to hear most of my mixes (which i mastered myself) on Sirius XM, FM Radio, and internet radio shows. Obviously all the streaming apps too. My advice is to get the Shure SE215 Sound Isolating Earphones. 3 reasons:
1. If your stuff sounds good to you on them, you're probably on the right track.
2. They're earbuds! You can listen to them anywhere.
3. MOST IMPORTANTLY, they are built to last. Ive had mine for almost 2 years and not a single issue. Ive gotten them caught on counters, my dog rips them out of my ears on a daily basis when jumping on me, Ive even dropped them in my coffee once. They STILL work perfectly. So why is this so important? Because I know them like the back of my hand. How many people can say they've had the same earbuds for over a year? Yes knowing your monitors and mixing headphones is very important. But having the same pair of really good earbuds for years is a huge advantage. Why shouldn't you listen to your own work on the same thing you listen to Spotify, Podcasts, Youtube, etc?
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Sure you will! I’m going to check out commuting in a Lamborghini. Let’s get back in touch when we’ve done those things.
Nice! Tell me what you think ?
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I would not waste a minute of my time trying to "mix" on in-ears.
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I would not waste a minute of my time trying to "mix" on in-ears.
I’ve used in-ears for some rough mixes of live recordings when I had to at venues and rehearsal studios. Generally, they aren’t comparable to my best mixes, but they haven’t ever been as bad as my worst studio mixes. My takeaway is that decent in-ears can be somewhat misleading as to critical balances and best stereo placement, but they are never as wrong on the low end as decent speakers in certain untreated rooms have been. My experience is that “not bad” is high praise for an in-ears mix.
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I’ve used in-ears for some rough mixes of live recordings when I had to at venues and rehearsal studios.
OK, but I think the OP is proposing using them at his studio, when he doesn't "have to".

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but they are never as wrong on the low end as decent speakers in certain untreated rooms have been.
But since money is clearly no object to him, nice speakers and a well-treated room would run only a fraction of the cost of some of those really high-end cans.

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I’ve used in-ears for some rough mixes of live recordings when I had to at venues and rehearsal studios. /QUOTE]

OK, but I think the OP is proposing using them at his studio, when he doesn't "have to".



But since money is clearly no object to him, nice speakers and a well-treated room would run only a fraction of the cost of some of those really high-end cans.
Oh... OK, I replied about the real world, but the OP clearly is of a different world. I stand corrected.
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